Register.com Con

Professer · 09-27-2004, 08:56 AM

Last year I inherited the administration of a number of domains at the infamous register.con. Does anyone know if there is a way to avoid this outrageous $200 transfer con?!

Do the new ICANN rules address transfer fees like this that virtually prohibit registrants from moving domain names to another registrar?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/49368-register-com-con.html

A few names expiring and I refuse to renew through this registrar. If there is a way to get by this con, help appreciated. Thanks.

Register.com Con

Quote:

Switch Your Domain Name to Register.com1
$35.00 - includes an additional year of registration
Transfer Your Domain Name to Another Person/Company2 $200.00
(http://www.register.com/pricing/index.cgi)

yesonline · 09-27-2004, 09:05 AM

transfer your domains out of register.com

Mark · 09-27-2004, 09:18 AM

That's the problem .... 200$ to do so !!!

Professer - I have had an account there from the old days - and just let them drop ! (Fee wasn't that high then though) - The only thing I can think of is - If the names are worth the cash is to try to Grab them on Drop day ~

Sorry - How many names are being held ?

Professer · 09-27-2004, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by all4cost

How many names are being held ?

Held hostage: 6

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=49368
Two expiring this year, four next year.

Perhaps we could organize a secret NP rescue mission for domains held hostage.

dna · 09-27-2004, 09:34 AM

What about this idea? Go ahead and charge the transfer on
your credit card. And after the transfer is completed, go
back to your credit card company and get the money refunded.
After all this transfer fee is nothin but extortion, and they dont
have a copy of your signature approving the transfer charge.

Professer · 09-27-2004, 09:41 AM

Unfortunately, even "extorition"-level prices can be protected by legally binding contracts. I think a voided sale would also cancel a registrant's legal rights to the names. Catch 22.

**Dave Zan** · 09-27-2004, 09:56 AM

Isn't the $200 charge for a registrant name change, meaning to change
ownership? I wonder why register.com continues this when NetSol
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=49368
dropped that long ago.

The new ICANN transfer rules now explicitly say that domain names do
have to be paid before being allowed to transfer out.

I don't see any other way out except to renew then try again but wait
for November 12 when the new transfer rules take effect. A silver lining,
though, may be that register.com will transfer the remaining term to the
new registrar.

dna, that's a risky idea, although it may work, depending on the card
issuer.

FYI, Clinton signed that e-signature law a few years back, making all those
check-the-box-beside-the-service agreement/terms and conditions legal.

Mark · 09-27-2004, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Professer

Held hostage: 6

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=49368
Two expiring this year, four next year.

Perhaps we could organize a secret NP rescue mission for domains held hostage.

Not a funny situation - But a funny idea ....

Operation Save the Names Commence ~

It really is a shame that a Supposed "Reputable" company would go to these extents to keep Customers -

If the names are good - They may not necessarily let them drop / If I am reading Icann's current "Rules" correctly ....

Just plain Sux ......

theparrot · 09-27-2004, 10:14 AM

I think you can transfer them into another registrar. Just use your resellers account to create an account with the same registrant info, and try a transfer.

identity_00 · 09-27-2004, 10:20 AM

I too think you can transfer them out. I believe the charge is for changing the registrant info at register.com.

Pay the transfer fee and get out of there.

If you only had one domain there you could give the whole account away to the buyer passwords and all.

Jeff · 09-27-2004, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by dna

What about this idea? Go ahead and charge the transfer on
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=49368
your credit card. And after the transfer is completed, go
back to your credit card company and get the money refunded.
After all this transfer fee is nothin but extortion, and they dont
have a copy of your signature approving the transfer charge.

^^ Nooo ... not recommended.

IMHO.

Originally Posted by theparrot

I think you can transfer them into another registrar. Just use your resellers account to create an account with the same registrant info, and try a transfer.

^ Rightio.
I "pulled" all of mine from Register.com to my Enom $8.95 account ... easy as pie, and cost me only $8.95/per domain name. All you need is access to the current E-mail address (yours, anyway) of the domain(s) currently residing (in your account) at Register.com!
These take anywhere from 24 - 72 hours to complete, in my experience.

Then, later, if / when you sell them ... easy Enom "push" to the Buyer(s).
All the best!
-Jeff

Mark · 09-27-2004, 10:49 AM

Good to know ~~~~

Jeff · 09-27-2004, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by all4cost

Good to know ~~~~

Woop!

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PS. If anyone needs any assistance with these "pulls" from Register.com / NameBargain.com ... please open a new "PTS" thread for me here on the site and I will offer to assist to the best of my abilities. I had many domains there at one point in time, I have none there now ... via the above post / method(s).

Have a great domain name week!

-Jeff

Riceman · 09-27-2004, 12:35 PM

I had a similiar issue with a name with those morons, I transferred to RegisterFly and it only cost 6.00
to get out of register.com hell

Professer · 09-29-2004, 05:38 PM

Thanks for the comments here. I have initiated a transfer and am waiting for word from register.com to see how they will respond.

Jeff · 09-29-2004, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Professer

Thanks for the comments here. I have initiated a transfer and am waiting for word from register.com to see how they will respond.

Look for E-mail's now at your existing Whois E-mail address (for the domain name currently at Register.com)!

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The first one will be from the receiving Registrar - Enom whathaveyou - asking for an approval of the "pull" in, the second one will be from Register.com to "confirm" deletion of the domain from their servers (and your account there).
Again, mine were all fairly smooth and pain-free, believe it or not.
Best!

vicarage · 09-29-2004, 10:56 PM

Which is probably why I never did register any of my domains with them. I use www.registerfly.com or even www.tlddirect.com (the latter I preffer as they are more flexible on bulk pricing).

But 200 is a con and at this stage, i would recomend that you stick and keep it there unless you have a wad of cash that you can spare.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=49368

This serves notice that one must do his homework well in advance before jumping on the first best offer. register.com is by no means cheap at even 35 bucks to reg a name and their so called value additions to the name are normal offerings you will find anywhere.

Do you want a Merc or a Toyota - both perform the same but one is nicer than the other. At Register.com you are paying for the name as well (brand).

That's my take.

.edu · 09-30-2004, 05:24 AM

I heard about this $200 fee before in the past but I bought a domain that was registered there and transferred out with no problems. All I did was accept the transfer agreement that was sent to the admin contact.

suthra · 09-30-2004, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Professer

Held hostage: 6

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=49368
Two expiring this year, four next year.

Perhaps we could organize a secret NP rescue mission for domains held hostage.

Agree, this is bad!!.

www.register.com bad and unprofessional company!

suthra · 09-30-2004, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by dna

What about this idea? Go ahead and charge the transfer on
your credit card. And after the transfer is completed, go
back to your credit card company and get the money refunded.
After all this transfer fee is nothin but extortion, and they dont
have a copy of your signature approving the transfer charge.

Nice idea

Badger · 09-30-2004, 06:53 AM

Just read the post (bit slow today) and YUP, Jeff is on the money... tried same thing myself a while back and

.

Now I didnt know at the time that maybe it was the fire exit we just left by but hey.... It worked.

incidentally, my friend knows someone at register.com and he says the charge is because of the exodus of domains that were being transferred out of them a while back to godaddy / enom etc and they can justify it for all the admin time it took up (and obviously to slow the drain away from them). He also says that this migration has slowed in recent times and register are now chilling a little with regard this charge. He says they know all about the 'pull in' requests and they are cool about it.

GL Prof.
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Ian

Darkfire001 · 09-30-2004, 05:37 PM

Register.com == Der Devil.

I will admit through when I get lazy I use their whois tool lol.

Professer · 09-30-2004, 08:53 PM

No word yet on any pull request from register.com. Hopefully, the transfer will move forward soon and I can transfer out all of my inherited domains to a non.con registrar!

wow! · 10-01-2004, 02:04 PM

I have a domain in Namebargain for 2 years...cant transfer it!
I tried 3 times...They never get back to you.
I hope someday they'll get a kick in their ass...

Professer · 10-05-2004, 06:46 AM

I'd like to write that this is unbelievable but it seems to be part of the ongoing con. I just received a phone call! from some phone bank claiming to be register.com offering me a very "special rate" of $29.95 to renew one of my domain names. When I explained how ridiculous that rate was, the caller informed me that many of their customers appreciated their rates and service.

I wished him well.

What do you think, any chance in seeing these names transferred to a new registrar?

09-27-2004, 09:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
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09-27-2004, 09:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mark Hi :) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NC Posts: 9,537	That's the problem .... 200$ to do so !!! Professer - I have had an account there from the old days - and just let them drop ! (Fee wasn't that high then though) - The only thing I can think of is - If the names are worth the cash is to try to Grab them on Drop day ~ Sorry - How many names are being held ? __________________ When the man at the door yelled "Alcohol , Tobacco , and Firearms" .... I just assumed it was a delivery !

09-27-2004, 09:41 AM	THREAD STARTER #6 (permalink)
Professer NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Niagara Region, Canada Posts: 842	Unfortunately, even "extorition"-level prices can be protected by legally binding contracts. I think a voided sale would also cancel a registrant's legal rights to the names. Catch 22. __________________ :hmm: profess-er . . .

09-27-2004, 10:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
theparrot NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 633	I think you can transfer them into another registrar. Just use your resellers account to create an account with the same registrant info, and try a transfer. __________________ Need a break? Check out TheDamnBlog.com Free $6.95 directi accounts at Directi Name Bin Instant free $8.95 eNom accounts at Dncube.com

09-27-2004, 10:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mark Hi :) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NC Posts: 9,537	Good to know ~~~~ __________________ When the man at the door yelled "Alcohol , Tobacco , and Firearms" .... I just assumed it was a delivery !

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09-27-2004, 09:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
dna NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 646	What about this idea? Go ahead and charge the transfer on your credit card. And after the transfer is completed, go back to your credit card company and get the money refunded. After all this transfer fee is nothin but extortion, and they dont have a copy of your signature approving the transfer charge.

09-27-2004, 09:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dave Zan Electrifying Guy Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,827 Follow @DaveZan	Isn't the $200 charge for a registrant name change, meaning to change ownership? I wonder why register.com continues this when NetSol ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=49368 dropped that long ago. The new ICANN transfer rules now explicitly say that domain names do have to be paid before being allowed to transfer out. I don't see any other way out except to renew then try again but wait for November 12 when the new transfer rules take effect. A silver lining, though, may be that register.com will transfer the remaining term to the new registrar. dna, that's a risky idea, although it may work, depending on the card issuer. FYI, Clinton signed that e-signature law a few years back, making all those check-the-box-beside-the-service agreement/terms and conditions legal.

09-27-2004, 10:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
identity_00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,212	I too think you can transfer them out. I believe the charge is for changing the registrant info at register.com. Pay the transfer fee and get out of there. If you only had one domain there you could give the whole account away to the buyer passwords and all.

09-27-2004, 12:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Riceman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,015	I had a similiar issue with a name with those morons, I transferred to RegisterFly and it only cost 6.00 to get out of register.com hell

09-29-2004, 05:38 PM	THREAD STARTER #15 (permalink)
Professer NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Niagara Region, Canada Posts: 842	Thanks for the comments here. I have initiated a transfer and am waiting for word from register.com to see how they will respond. __________________ :hmm: profess-er . . .

09-29-2004, 10:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
vicarage New Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 12	I must have missed that Which is probably why I never did register any of my domains with them. I use www.registerfly.com or even www.tlddirect.com (the latter I preffer as they are more flexible on bulk pricing). But 200 is a con and at this stage, i would recomend that you stick and keep it there unless you have a wad of cash that you can spare. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=49368 This serves notice that one must do his homework well in advance before jumping on the first best offer. register.com is by no means cheap at even 35 bucks to reg a name and their so called value additions to the name are normal offerings you will find anywhere. Do you want a Merc or a Toyota - both perform the same but one is nicer than the other. At Register.com you are paying for the name as well (brand). That's my take.

09-30-2004, 05:24 AM	#18 (permalink)
.edu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Next to 7-11 Posts: 3,385	I heard about this $200 fee before in the past but I bought a domain that was registered there and transferred out with no problems. All I did was accept the transfer agreement that was sent to the admin contact. __________________ DomainPyramid Coming Soon! Look at this! <-- :ghost: Look at this! <-- :ghost:

09-30-2004, 06:53 AM	#21 (permalink)
Badger Ravaged By Age Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PST + 8 Posts: 3,502	Just read the post (bit slow today) and YUP, Jeff is on the money... tried same thing myself a while back and . Now I didnt know at the time that maybe it was the fire exit we just left by but hey.... It worked. incidentally, my friend knows someone at register.com and he says the charge is because of the exodus of domains that were being transferred out of them a while back to godaddy / enom etc and they can justify it for all the admin time it took up (and obviously to slow the drain away from them). He also says that this migration has slowed in recent times and register are now chilling a little with regard this charge. He says they know all about the 'pull in' requests and they are cool about it. GL Prof. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=49368 Ian

09-30-2004, 05:37 PM	#22 (permalink)
Darkfire001 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,123	Register.com == Der Devil. I will admit through when I get lazy I use their whois tool lol. __________________ Reichelt Solutions

09-30-2004, 08:53 PM	THREAD STARTER #23 (permalink)
Professer NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Niagara Region, Canada Posts: 842	No word yet on any pull request from register.com. Hopefully, the transfer will move forward soon and I can transfer out all of my inherited domains to a non.con registrar! __________________ :hmm: profess-er . . .

10-01-2004, 02:04 PM	#24 (permalink)
wow! Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: world Posts: 3,862	I have a domain in Namebargain for 2 years...cant transfer it! I tried 3 times...They never get back to you. I hope someday they'll get a kick in their ass...

10-05-2004, 06:46 AM	THREAD STARTER #25 (permalink)
Professer NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Niagara Region, Canada Posts: 842	Update: Register.con phone service! I'd like to write that this is unbelievable but it seems to be part of the ongoing con. I just received a phone call! from some phone bank claiming to be register.com offering me a very "special rate" of $29.95 to renew one of my domain names. When I explained how ridiculous that rate was, the caller informed me that many of their customers appreciated their rates and service. I wished him well. What do you think, any chance in seeing these names transferred to a new registrar? __________________ :hmm: profess-er . . .

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