DubDubDubDot

The domain in question is on expired day 13.

This page: http://help.godaddy.com/article.php?...8&topic_id=164

states that on day 12 it's placed on hold. Does that mean it can't be moved to another GoDaddy account until the current owner renews it?

And on the 19th day it goes into redemption.



On another note, whois.sc is reporting an expiration of 2009 which is apparently wrong since GoDaddy whois says June 2008.

weblord

how can you transfer it if Godaddy's holding it?
go with gd's data.

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DubDubDubDot

Well I didn't know if it could be transfered within GoDaddy or not.

weblord

the way to know is login to your gd account, click on manage domains, check the domain you wish to transfer to another gd account, and the "account change" on the menu should "light" up and becomes available but if it's still "grayed" out then you can't do internal transfer.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/492435-can-expired-godaddy-names-be-transfered.html

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It cannot. Even more so - your in redemption - which means its gonna cost you $80 to get it out of hock.

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DubDubDubDot

I'm not the one with the domain. It's a domain I want to buy from someone who is inexperienced at selling them.

http://help.godaddy.com/article.php?...8&topic_id=164

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On the 12th day following your domain registration's expiration date, we attempt to renew the domain. If we still cannot renew the domain, we send a third and final notification of your domain registration's expiration, and we place the domain on hold. You can manually renew your domain.

On the 19th day following your domain registration's expiration date, your domain remains on hold but becomes subject to a redemption fee. You can call customer support to renew your domain, subject to any applicable renewal and redemption fees.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=492435
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According to that, the redemption fee doesn't start until day 19.

weblord

tell them he needs to pay additional U.S.$80 to sell them to you then you buy it, or shoulder the U.S.$80 for him.

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ssamriga

well I think that names can not be transferred even 5 days before renewal, at least Moniker has such a policy...

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tricolorro

Hi,

Yes they can be transferred.

Moniker is in violation of ICANN's rules.

Patrick

For your reference:

The Registrar of Record may deny a transfer request only in the following specific instances:

1. Evidence of fraud
2. UDRP action
3. Court order by a court of competent jurisdiction
4. Reasonable dispute over the identity of the Registered Name Holder or Administrative Contact
5. No payment for previous registration period (including credit card charge-backs) if the domain name is past its expiration date or for previous or current registration periods if the domain name has not yet expired. In all such cases, however, the domain name must be put into "Registrar Hold" status by the Registrar of Record prior to the denial of transfer.
6. Express written objection to the transfer from the Transfer Contact. (e.g. - email, fax, paper document or other processes by which the Transfer Contact has expressly and voluntarily objected through opt-in means)
7. A domain name was already in “lock status” provided that the Registrar provides a readily accessible and reasonable means for the Registered Name Holder to remove the lock status.
8. A domain name is in the first 60 days of an initial registration period.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=492435
9. A domain name is within 60 days (or a lesser period to be determined) after being transferred (apart from being transferred back to the original Registrar in cases where both Registrars so agree and/or where a decision in the dispute resolution process so directs).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=492435

Instances when the requested change of Registrar may not be denied include, but are not limited to:

* Nonpayment for a pending or future registration period
* No response from the Registered Name Holder or Administrative Contact.
* Domain name in Registrar Lock Status, unless the Registered Name Holder is provided with the reasonable opportunity and ability to unlock the domain name prior to the Transfer Request.
* Domain name registration period time constraints, other than during the first 60 days of initial registration or during the first 60 days after a registrar transfer.
* General payment defaults between Registrar and business partners / affiliates in cases where the Registered Name Holder for the domain in question has paid for the registration.

Source:
http://www.icann.org/transfers/

Also see the new ICANN update from April 03, 2009

Registrar Advisory Concerning the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy

http://www.icann.org/announcements/advisory-03apr08.htm
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In summary, a Registrar cannot block a domain transfer based on the number of days remaining.

Moniker's 5 day rule is supposed to be a security thing. But they are in violation as they do not provide any way to remove the lock.

Remember # 7 above:
"...provided that the Registrar provides a readily accessible and reasonable means for the Registered Name Holder to remove the lock status."

You also cannot get the Auth Code which is another violation.

Auth Codes MUST be given upon request.

Even if you ask them to unlock the domain, they will try to deny the transfer...you really would have to push the issue.
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Also see:
http://domainnamewire.com/2008/04/29...whois-changes/

Patrick

stub

Just as long as the domain is in your account you can renew it for the normal renewal fee.

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tricolorro

Very nicely summed up!

Patrick

DubDubDubDot

UPDATE:

There is conflicting information in this thread about when the $80 redemption fee kicks in.

The domain I am involved with has been successfully renewed at normal renewal fees 15 days after expiration. I presume this means the 19 day rule is the one to go by.

stub

Yep. They take it out of your account on Day 18 (or 19). That's when the Redemption Fee kicks in.

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