A lot more sellers than buyers

Burano · 06-23-2008, 07:43 PM

So, has it always been like this on this forum? I see pages and pages of posts of people trying to sell lists of domains with no responses except themselves

Some of these names are decent too...since I haven't been on this board that long, I was just curious if this was always the case since it's free here. Or maybe your domain just really has to STAND OUT??

It used to be you could at least make your money back on lower quality domains...seems like those days are over.

SkyMan · 06-23-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Burano

So, has it always been like this on this forum? I see pages and pages of posts of people trying to sell lists of domains with no responses except themselves

Some of these names are decent too...since I haven't been on this board that long, I was just curious if this was always the case since it's free here. Or maybe your domain just really has to STAND OUT??

It used to be you could at least make your money back on lower quality domains...seems like those days are over.

I think the economy has a lot to do with it. Not sure what exactly it's like down south (although I hear it's bad), but I know that in a province like Ontario where manufacturing generates much of the income for families, disposable income is scarce.

Many people are spared from the tough times but hold onto their money when they hear all this hype surrounding the looming or already landed recession. From the way it sounds, sometimes they talk as if the world is going to end.

I'm not sure this industry has ever experienced a bit of a lull, perhaps one is on the way leading to the BEST time to buy.

Steve · 06-23-2008, 07:59 PM

I'm using the opportunity to buy what I can, but it's almost certainly the condition of the economy that has people selling off names. I picked up a LLL .org for only $200 today, for example.

Smiler · 06-23-2008, 08:10 PM

Yes prices are certainly tumbling down due to the economy and the gas prices. I would rather buy more domains than spending it on gas but I've got to be somewhere. If walking is an option from point A to B, C, etc, etc. I'll just not drive my car at all. It cost about $40 to fill up my tank. Thats about 5 domains that I can register.

Burano · 06-23-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyMan

Many people are spared from the tough times but hold onto their money when they hear all this hype surrounding the looming or already landed recession. From the way it sounds, sometimes they talk as if the world is going to end.

LOL, that's so true. We can thank the lovely US media for that.

It's true that times like these are great opportunities for those brave enough to seize it...and smart enough to know what to seize and what to let go of...take stocks for instance, if you play your cards right, times like these can make you a millionaire in half the time. It's just knowing what solid stocks are being sold for below value...it's tough to know.

onlinedomains00 · 06-23-2008, 08:41 PM

If times are tough, it is better to setup an online business, for less than $1000, if you had to go out and setup a brick and mortar business, it would be $xx,xxx in startup costs. I don't buy this whole gas business... sure gas prices are higher... but by what factor is it hitting the bank account, $100 per month?, It is about the end user catching up to the domain sellers... I see many quality domains, as well as many garbage domains for sale... There are many domainers who are holding 100+ portfolios waiting for end users, to purchase their domains, one by one, and when they sell one, they re-invest.... it is strictly supply and demand, in the build out process.

VisionEdger · 06-23-2008, 08:55 PM

The domain industry has sucked in alot of people thinking easy $ is too be made, and I am one of them!

Unfortunately timing is everything and with the parking issues, recession, fuel costs, media scare tactics and the like , domaining has taken a major hit.

worldstar · 06-24-2008, 05:02 AM

domains are sold from domainers to domainers, not to end user. This is what has happened everyday.

raghav_romil · 06-24-2008, 05:08 AM

well everyone needs a lot more profit and the actual thing goes that companies are still not recognising how they could take their works or bussinesses online and globalised. and i have been sitting in this hope that the day comes soon. i am sure the number of companies in the whole world far exceeds the ones who are involved in domaining.

Krossat · 06-24-2008, 05:17 AM

Yup the sales have definitely gone down. Even good names with a little bit of speculation are being ignored. Only sales i can see are either LLL, LLLL or small time domains.
Smarter people are stocking up better names to profit when the tide turns

dnZoom · 06-24-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Burano

So, has it always been like this on this forum? I see pages and pages of posts of people trying to sell lists of domains with no responses except themselves

Some of these names are decent too...since I haven't been on this board that long, I was just curious if this was always the case since it's free here. Or maybe your domain just really has to STAND OUT??

It used to be you could at least make your money back on lower quality domains...seems like those days are over.

Burano -- seems like you're famous!

Sahar picked up on your comment after you posted this:

http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/06...rom-domainers/

Just thought you may be interested

Datalife · 06-24-2008, 11:03 AM

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Burano -- seems like you're famous!

Sahar picked up on your comment after you posted this:

http://www.conceptualist.com/2008/0...from-domainers/

Just thought you may be interested

That Sahar guy can say anything he wants...he made his money..... bottom line is that the OP has made a VERY valid point. Domaining seems (to me) to be going down the drain, unless you own a very rare premium .com. It's like all or nothing these days. Sales are dropping everywhere.

A lot of people are actually expecting you to sell a decent/ok domain for $20 or less

You'll be hard pressed to sell anything for a few hundred. The longer this continues, the more "permanent" this state of affairs and mindset will continue, even when the recession is over....

bobdigital · 06-24-2008, 11:14 AM

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Some of these names are decent too
I see many quality domains,

can you show some to me?
I buy names daily, and so are others.
More and more valueless names are being listed.

goodkarmaco · 06-24-2008, 12:07 PM

Actually that statement is true. The media is not telling us the truth. It is a hell of alot worse then they say it is.

If you knew the real truth about the worlds economy, you would be buying food and essentials for the next few years downturn and not domains if you have limited funds. The future until at least 2012 will be the largest downturn ever seen.

Bottom line.. domains that are not top domains are going to end up not being renewed as this economic onslaught continues and more and more domainers need that cash to buy essentials.

onlinedomains00 · 06-24-2008, 12:32 PM

Domains are a world wide enterprise, US economy might be bad, but in Canada, natural resource rich country, house prices are still going up in places such as Vancouver etc... might be a slowdown with the US economy based on speculation, but people are not exactly jumping out of buildings, if anything domains should pick up in economic downturn as they offer people more profit, on less risked capital.... anyone with $100 can setup an online business, the same cannot be said with a storefront.....

I said some domains are of decent quality listed on namepros...but they are not free... so your saying every name listed on here is absolute junk... unless it costs next to nothing... In downturns ppl sulk, cry, and whine, but if you have cash to spend, deals can be had...... I bought a 2 word .com insure#######.com for $5, and it has already done $12 at sedo in less than a week in PPC revenue... also bought a poker###.com domain for $15 and sold it for $4XXX 17 days later.... I agree domain offers in the marketplace are decreasing from end users... but the potential is still strong.

snoop · 06-24-2008, 04:11 PM

The domain industry has always been a boom and bust industry, huge booms followed by huge busts. At the top of the boom people forget about the busts, and start working out how long it will be before they retire (assuming their domains continue to go up at 60% per year!) What we are seeing now is a very healthy cleaning out process following on from that. The business models that aren't sustainable (like crazy buyouts, highly speculative extensions, premiums names being sold on nonsensical multiples) get worked out of the system, it is good for the market.

Michael · 06-24-2008, 05:02 PM

It's definitely a buyers market right now... gotta love it

snoop · 06-24-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by onlinedomains00

if anything domains should pick up in economic downturn as they offer people more profit, on less risked capital.... anyone with $100 can setup an online business, the same cannot be said with a storefront.....

This is simply wishful thinking.

advaita · 06-24-2008, 05:06 PM

It seems to me this is a good time to buy if you've got the cash

**Ross** · 06-24-2008, 05:06 PM

You have to remember, a lot of people dont want other people knowing what they are buying and for what prices. So people tend to pm people and settle a deal without replying in the thread.

Though i must say the market place on here is bursting at the seems but there are plenty of good buys. I remember when the prices were really inflated on just about every thread.

Idees · 06-24-2008, 05:39 PM

Your right, a lot more people are selling domains now, compared to last year.

VisionEdger · 06-24-2008, 08:06 PM

Its always the domainers / developers that are seasoned and who already made their $$$$ in this industry before now that have th luxury to say its only a temp problem blah blah.

Hey MR. successful domainer with all the $$$$ and sales behind them. Try starting in this business within the last year and see how upbeat and positive you stay! I can stay as upbeat as the next guy WHEN my portfolio is loaded with generic .coms and I already made $$1000's selling them in the past. Lets see how you do now starting as a newbie.

You would be bitchin just like all us poor domain shmucks that missed the gravy train!!

onlinedomains00 · 06-24-2008, 08:15 PM

it is like that in every industry... not just domaining.

Epic · 06-24-2008, 08:19 PM

This is the best time to pick up a great name at a stupidly cheap price! Good times for buyers, bad times for sellers.

VisionEdger · 06-24-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onlinedomains00

it is like that in every industry... not just domaining.

so what?? we are talking about domaining here

06-23-2008, 07:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Smiler NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 901 272.00 NP$ (Donate)	Yes prices are certainly tumbling down due to the economy and the gas prices. I would rather buy more domains than spending it on gas but I've got to be somewhere. If walking is an option from point A to B, C, etc, etc. I'll just not drive my car at all. It cost about $40 to fill up my tank. Thats about 5 domains that I can register. __________________ Game9.net\|ZipCoders.com\|Blog94.com\|VXEM.com\|Payz.info\|m-voting.net\| My 2nd & 3rd Signature Line is for rent $10/Month. PM me if your intested New To Domaining?

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Krossat krossat.com Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 3,623 1,035.00 NP$ (Donate)	Yup the sales have definitely gone down. Even good names with a little bit of speculation are being ignored. Only sales i can see are either LLL, LLLL or small time domains. Smarter people are stocking up better names to profit when the tide turns __________________ <<< Krossat's Blog : Launching Soon - Available Names & Drop Software Site >>> <<< Disclosable Available Domain Lists : : GeoGeneric "US" Domains >>> <<Profit Hour>> <<Image Gallery>> <<Comedy Central>>

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goodkarmaco Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blaine, Wa. Posts: 1,947 26.10 NP$ (Donate)	Priorities Actually that statement is true. The media is not telling us the truth. It is a hell of alot worse then they say it is. If you knew the real truth about the worlds economy, you would be buying food and essentials for the next few years downturn and not domains if you have limited funds. The future until at least 2012 will be the largest downturn ever seen. Bottom line.. domains that are not top domains are going to end up not being renewed as this economic onslaught continues and more and more domainers need that cash to buy essentials. __________________ GOODKARMACO, "Tenisonline" Last edited by goodkarmaco; 06-24-2008 at 12:08 PM. Reason: misspell

06-23-2008, 07:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Steve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,140 5,730.67 NP$ (Donate)	I'm using the opportunity to buy what I can, but it's almost certainly the condition of the economy that has people selling off names. I picked up a LLL .org for only $200 today, for example.

06-23-2008, 08:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
onlinedomains00 Account Suspended Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 115 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	If times are tough, it is better to setup an online business, for less than $1000, if you had to go out and setup a brick and mortar business, it would be $xx,xxx in startup costs. I don't buy this whole gas business... sure gas prices are higher... but by what factor is it hitting the bank account, $100 per month?, It is about the end user catching up to the domain sellers... I see many quality domains, as well as many garbage domains for sale... There are many domainers who are holding 100+ portfolios waiting for end users, to purchase their domains, one by one, and when they sell one, they re-invest.... it is strictly supply and demand, in the build out process.

06-23-2008, 08:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
VisionEdger NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 667 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	The domain industry has sucked in alot of people thinking easy $ is too be made, and I am one of them! Unfortunately timing is everything and with the parking issues, recession, fuel costs, media scare tactics and the like , domaining has taken a major hit.

06-24-2008, 05:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
raghav_romil Account Closed Join Date: May 2007 Location: ~~Indian Strides~~ Posts: 167 48.65 NP$ (Donate)	well everyone needs a lot more profit and the actual thing goes that companies are still not recognising how they could take their works or bussinesses online and globalised. and i have been sitting in this hope that the day comes soon. i am sure the number of companies in the whole world far exceeds the ones who are involved in domaining.

06-24-2008, 12:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
onlinedomains00 Account Suspended Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 115 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Domains are a world wide enterprise, US economy might be bad, but in Canada, natural resource rich country, house prices are still going up in places such as Vancouver etc... might be a slowdown with the US economy based on speculation, but people are not exactly jumping out of buildings, if anything domains should pick up in economic downturn as they offer people more profit, on less risked capital.... anyone with $100 can setup an online business, the same cannot be said with a storefront..... I said some domains are of decent quality listed on namepros...but they are not free... so your saying every name listed on here is absolute junk... unless it costs next to nothing... In downturns ppl sulk, cry, and whine, but if you have cash to spend, deals can be had...... I bought a 2 word .com insure#######.com for $5, and it has already done $12 at sedo in less than a week in PPC revenue... also bought a poker###.com domain for $15 and sold it for $4XXX 17 days later.... I agree domain offers in the marketplace are decreasing from end users... but the potential is still strong. Last edited by onlinedomains00; 06-24-2008 at 12:39 PM.

06-24-2008, 04:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
snoop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,127 673.00 NP$ (Donate)	The domain industry has always been a boom and bust industry, huge booms followed by huge busts. At the top of the boom people forget about the busts, and start working out how long it will be before they retire (assuming their domains continue to go up at 60% per year!) What we are seeing now is a very healthy cleaning out process following on from that. The business models that aren't sustainable (like crazy buyouts, highly speculative extensions, premiums names being sold on nonsensical multiples) get worked out of the system, it is good for the market.

06-24-2008, 05:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
Michael DNMedia.com Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,808 1,499.50 NP$ (Donate)	It's definitely a buyers market right now... gotta love it __________________ MiniSites.com - Shift Your Domains Out of Park! PushToAuction.com - List domains you would like to push to auction at Sedo! DN Media Corporation \| Friend Me on Facebook \| Follow Me on Twitter

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Ross NP Superstar™ Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,068 5.15 NP$ (Donate)	You have to remember, a lot of people dont want other people knowing what they are buying and for what prices. So people tend to pm people and settle a deal without replying in the thread. Though i must say the market place on here is bursting at the seems but there are plenty of good buys. I remember when the prices were really inflated on just about every thread. __________________ YGrab.com Domaining BLOG!

06-24-2008, 05:39 PM	#21 (permalink)
Idees Account Closed Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,258 105.20 NP$ (Donate)	Your right, a lot more people are selling domains now, compared to last year.

06-24-2008, 08:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
VisionEdger NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 667 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Its always the domainers / developers that are seasoned and who already made their $$$$ in this industry before now that have th luxury to say its only a temp problem blah blah. Hey MR. successful domainer with all the $$$$ and sales behind them. Try starting in this business within the last year and see how upbeat and positive you stay! I can stay as upbeat as the next guy WHEN my portfolio is loaded with generic .coms and I already made $$1000's selling them in the past. Lets see how you do now starting as a newbie. You would be bitchin just like all us poor domain shmucks that missed the gravy train!!

06-24-2008, 08:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
onlinedomains00 Account Suspended Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 115 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	it is like that in every industry... not just domaining.

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Epic Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,782 518.09 NP$ (Donate)	This is the best time to pick up a great name at a stupidly cheap price! Good times for buyers, bad times for sellers.

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