Subdomain Hack Question

bmugford · 06-07-2008, 05:03 AM

I mainly stick to short domains, but have read threads with domain hacks like JesusChri.st

What about a subdomain hack. Let's say for example you owned usiness.com
You could make a subdomain "b" and you would have B.usiness.com

How do people feel about that type of hack and do those type of hacks have any established value?

squid · 06-07-2008, 05:13 AM

To be honest, the reason sites like del.icio.us have succeeded is because they also own delicious.com. If you're going to develop a site around a subdomain, you need to make sure you also own the "None hack" version, because what about people who can't remember where the .'s go? They're going to end up at a totally different website and you're going to loose a lot of traffic.

So if you were to develop b.usiness.com you'd theoretically need to also own business.com to avoid losing lots of traffic. Especially if you were to advertise.

-REECE- · 06-07-2008, 05:17 AM

I find something like be.cool.com okay, but something like b.usiness.com is hard to remember.

Jesus.Christ.com would be great, but JesusChri.st.com would be kinda scary imho

Originally Posted by bmugford

I mainly stick to short domains, but have read threads with domain hacks like JesusChri.st
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/478845-subdomain-hack-question.html

What about a subdomain hack. Let's say for example you owned usiness.com
You could make a subdomain "b" and you would have B.usiness.com

How do people feel about that type of hack and do those type of hacks have any established value?

.tv · 06-07-2008, 05:34 AM

No need to have the non hack version, if your domain hack is a shorter one, IMO.

Blo.gs is owned by Yahoo!, but Blogs.com is not.

The owner of who.is does not own Whois.com.

The owner of au.to does not own auto.com.

I do not own texas.com, of course I do have tex.as!

michaeldotcom · 06-07-2008, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by squid

To be honest, the reason sites like del.icio.us have succeeded is because they also own delicious.com.

Completely agreed.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=478845

They could have used and promoted only delicious.com, but chose to promote del.icio.us instead.

So why did they promote del.icio.us ? Simply because it was an unusual hack that enabled them to stand out of the crowd and to get people talking.

And getting people talking means free advertising and is part of the marketing strategy of many companies online.

But this wouldn't have worked if they didn't own delicious.com as well, to prevent a potentially huge loss of traffic.

HappyBunny · 06-07-2008, 06:12 AM

Did they acquire "delicious.com" before or after "del.icio.us" became famous?

I heard they bought "delicious.com" after "del.icio.us" became well-known, but I might be wrong...

I think the reason for del.icio.us' success is their innovative concept/system, and not their domain hack. IMO.

michaeldotcom · 06-07-2008, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by HappyBunny

I think the reason for del.icio.us' success is their innovative concept/system, and not their domain hack. IMO.

Agreed, but the unusual hack was part of their marketing strategy to get people talking and promote their site.

There are so many websites out there, so it's important to do something to stand out of the crowd. This usually means good content, innovative concept, but also marketing strategy.

soggyindo · 06-07-2008, 07:56 AM

^ which is funny, because a subtext there is that one word dictionary .coms aren't, by themselves, the memorable, remarkable holy grail we domainers sometimes make them out to be!

domainer50 · 06-07-2008, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by .tv

I do not own texas.com, of course I do have tex.as!

Right but he is saying that if I type in Texas.com, you get no traffic

.tv · 06-07-2008, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by domainer50

Right but he is saying that if I type in Texas.com, you get no traffic

Yeah, it works in the same way for other names too. Not only for domain hacks.

If you type texas.com, even texas.net also wont get traffic.

If you type texas.com you'll see the website of texas.com

If you type tex.as, you'll see the website of tex.as.

If you type texashotels.com, you'll see the website of texashotels.com

this list continues....

Unless you own a highly generic domain name, it is impossible to have natural type-ins to even a .com domain. The same rule applies to all type of domain names regardless of their nature (whether they are domain hacks or not).

dnb8 · 06-07-2008, 11:52 AM

I have d.ownload.info but very small traffic and no interest

Hurley4540 · 06-07-2008, 12:14 PM

Why don't you redirect ownload.info to d.ownload.info????

domainer50 · 06-07-2008, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Hurley4540

Why don't you redirect ownload.info to d.ownload.info????

How many type ins do you think ownload.info gets?

Hurley4540 · 06-07-2008, 12:30 PM

None...but im just saying

brianlai · 06-07-2008, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by .tv

Yeah, it works in the same way for other names too. Not only for domain hacks.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=478845

If you type texas.com, even texas.net also wont get traffic.

If you type texas.com you'll see the website of texas.com

If you type tex.as, you'll see the website of tex.as.

If you type texashotels.com, you'll see the website of texashotels.com

this list continues....

Unless you own a highly generic domain name, it is impossible to have natural type-ins to even a .com domain. The same rule applies to all type of domain names regardless of their nature (whether they are domain hacks or not).

ya... I own naru.to does not mean I own naruto.com

HappyBunny · 06-07-2008, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by brianlai

ya... I own naru.to does not mean I own naruto.com

naru.to is quite nice!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=478845
It has huge potential to become an authority fans site, being the only one "naru.to" in the world

Between del.icio.us and deli.cio.us, which one is better?

filter · 06-07-2008, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by HappyBunny

Between del.icio.us and deli.cio.us, which one is better?

well ... ignoring the current development status of del.icio.us - I'd rather work with cio.us for subdomains - more possibilities, more intuitive / esthetic location of breaks in words ... and "CIO" is a good acronym on its own, as a fallback.

I have "idio.us" by the way - works for ins.idio.us + inv.idio.us + perf.idio.us ... for whatever that's worth!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=478845

Timewarp · 06-08-2008, 10:01 AM

Tex.as and Naru.to are sweet, I think those type of hacks have some resale value but Im not so sure about subdomain hacks.
I have o.ddity.com or qui.ddity.com plus a number of web2.0name hacks like in my sig.

Just noticed: love.ly SOLD for 4,600 EUR

xman · 06-08-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by filter

well ... ignoring the current development status of del.icio.us - I'd rather work with cio.us for subdomains - more possibilities, more intuitive / esthetic location of breaks in words ... and "CIO" is a good acronym on its own, as a fallback.

I couldn't have agree more.

Originally Posted by Timewarp

Tex.as and Naru.to are sweet, I think those type of hacks have some resale value but Im not so sure about subdomain hacks.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=478845
I have o.ddity.com or qui.ddity.com plus a number of web2.0name hacks like in my sig.

Just noticed: love.ly SOLD for 4,600 EUR

That's a love.ly price tag.

Nice!!!

htmlindex · 06-08-2008, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by bmugford

I mainly stick to short domains, but have read threads with domain hacks like JesusChri.st
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=478845

What about a subdomain hack. Let's say for example you owned usiness.com
You could make a subdomain "b" and you would have B.usiness.com

How do people feel about that type of hack and do those type of hacks have any established value?

The only value of B.usiness.com would be in a developed site with traffic & revenue.

Why not go out and get:

Bu.siness.com
Bus.iness.com
Busi.ness.com
Busin.ess.com
Busine.ss.com

filter · 06-09-2008, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by htmlindex

Why not go out and get:

Bu.siness.com
Bus.iness.com
Busi.ness.com
Busin.ess.com
Busine.ss.com

siness.com regged since 2004
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=478845
iness.com regged since 1999
ness.com regged since 1993
ess.com regged since 1993
ss.com regged since 1997

Timewarp · 06-09-2008, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by filter

siness.com regged since 2004
iness.com regged since 1999
ness.com regged since 1993
ess.com regged since 1993
ss.com regged since 1997

Lol, well the last 3 are good.

bmugford · 06-09-2008, 03:28 PM

I grabbed a domain for a possible subdomain hack. It is interesting at least.
The domain is Terdam.com which, itself looks alright to start with but when you create a subdomain "Ams" and "Rot" you end up with two big cities.

Ams.terdam.com and Rot.terdam.com

evirtual1 · 06-10-2008, 12:28 AM

domain hacks are cool ..... i put a sign in the back window of my van... worldne.ws , and yes people did look out of interest

i just checked ...... ingwebsites.com is available = design.ingwebsites.com

i couldn't help myself ....... just grabbed greenne.ws

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squid Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Stafford Posts: 992	To be honest, the reason sites like del.icio.us have succeeded is because they also own delicious.com. If you're going to develop a site around a subdomain, you need to make sure you also own the "None hack" version, because what about people who can't remember where the .'s go? They're going to end up at a totally different website and you're going to loose a lot of traffic. So if you were to develop b.usiness.com you'd theoretically need to also own business.com to avoid losing lots of traffic. Especially if you were to advertise.

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Hurley4540 Account Closed Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,384	Why don't you redirect ownload.info to d.ownload.info????

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Hurley4540 Account Closed Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,384	None...but im just saying

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Timewarp Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1,031	Tex.as and Naru.to are sweet, I think those type of hacks have some resale value but Im not so sure about subdomain hacks. I have o.ddity.com or qui.ddity.com plus a number of web2.0name hacks like in my sig. Just noticed: love.ly SOLD for 4,600 EUR __________________ Established Premium Games Domain For Sale

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bmugford www.DataCube.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,838	I grabbed a domain for a possible subdomain hack. It is interesting at least. The domain is Terdam.com which, itself looks alright to start with but when you create a subdomain "Ams" and "Rot" you end up with two big cities. Ams.terdam.com and Rot.terdam.com __________________ DataCube.com - Buy and Sell Premium Domains

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