Future of NNNNN.coms

DomainGuider · 05-31-2008, 10:13 AM

I don't know where are we heading with NNNNN.coms

I see many 5N.coms dropping everyday though they are being caught instantly.
I see many sellers selling 5N.coms for $10 each which have almost a year before they expire.

Could someone throw some light on it

Jeff · 05-31-2008, 10:20 AM

U.S. zip codes are NNNNN.com's!

-Jeff

DomainGuider · 05-31-2008, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

U.S. zip codes are NNNNN.com's!

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-Jeff

I agree to it, but not all 5N.coms are US Zip Codes

Jeff · 05-31-2008, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by DomainGuider

I agree to it, but not all 5N.coms are US Zip Codes

Righto, that's why additional research is typically required IMHO.

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Best of Luck.
-Jeff

abcproductions · 05-31-2008, 11:15 AM

i think NNNNN.coms will become quite valuable in a few years time. right now you can purchase them for less than reg fee and i suggest anyone who can hold for a few years pickup as many as you can.

Spade · 05-31-2008, 11:19 AM

Im not much a believer in NNNNN.com's for a few basic reasons.

1. Hard to Remember and Brand

2. Typically lack meaning, which normally makes a domain signifigant.

Consider this. I want to start a business around selling Mouse Pads online. How does having an NNNNN.com correlate to selling Mouse Pads? How would my customers remember it if I started to brand a random number like 59302.com (assuming of course its not a zip code).

I think these make poor investments unless they are zip codes or important numbers.

Justin

dmi · 05-31-2008, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Spade

Im not much a believer in NNNNN.com's for a few basic reasons.
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1. Hard to Remember and Brand

2. Typically lack meaning, which normally makes a domain signifigant.

Consider this. I want to start a business around selling Mouse Pads online. How does having an NNNNN.com correlate to selling Mouse Pads? How would my customers remember it if I started to brand a random number like 59302.com (assuming of course its not a zip code).

I think these make poor investments unless they are zip codes or important numbers.

Justin

Cell phones. Enough said.

DomainName1 · 05-31-2008, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by dmi

Cell phones. Enough said.

you can't really use the cell phone explaination because more and more phones have keyboards. Soon enough, every phone will be this way.

evirtual1 · 05-31-2008, 06:17 PM

numbers are easier on a cell phone , keyboards on a phone ...... i prefer the number method , nnnnn/s that spell words may be a good investment

Spade · 05-31-2008, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by dmi

Cell phones. Enough said.

LoL. Although you make an interesting point - how many phone numbers do you remember? Thats why you save numbers in your cell phone. Also, typically a number you remember is important, do you remember numbers from advertisements you see on the side of the road?

evirtual1 · 05-31-2008, 06:38 PM

but a short word is enough for me to remember and then spell it on a phone , worddial are an interesting company , check them out, i have 4636.info , it spells info dot info ....... easy to remember i think , imagine going to any city in the world and tying that in to get all the info you need , taxis , hotels ...etc

rkbdomain · 05-31-2008, 09:18 PM

I think the important thing is development potential, end user sales, and prices of NNN.com's and NNNN.com's. The latter is doing very well, and so eventually NNNNN.com's will rise in price. With very strong end-user sales for NNN.com's an NNNN.com's, and sales for NNNNN.com's picking up, the baseline for a random NNNNN.com should rise. May take a little bit of time, but I think it will happen. Also, scarcity is a factor as well. There are only 100k NNNNN.com v. 450k+ LLLL.com, and the proportion of NNNNN.com's that are developed sites is very high, near 50%. So that's only about 50k for a reseller market. And not all the developed NNNNN.com's are US zip codes, some are foreign postal code sites, cell phone sites, random brandables (surprising number of these actually), and most importantly, Chinese sites, which I think is about 8% of all NNNNN.com's. The Chinese sites is probably one of the best areas for future growth, because traffic there is going to continue to rise rapidly as internet use expands. Also, as the price of other numerics rises, NNNNN.com's should rise as well. But it may take a year or so.

dmi · 06-01-2008, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Spade

LoL. Although you make an interesting point - how many phone numbers do you remember? Thats why you save numbers in your cell phone. Also, typically a number you remember is important, do you remember numbers from advertisements you see on the side of the road?

Actually, I'm pretty good with numbers. My phonebook is empty -- all the numbers are stored in my brain. But that's just me...
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Type 466453.com in your browser...

Anyway, you guys might want to check out this cool post by Adam Dicker.

dgridley · 06-01-2008, 08:34 AM

Exactly.. to let these drop may be extremely short-sighted.

Originally Posted by Jeff

U.S. zip codes are NNNNN.com's!

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-Jeff

Spade · 06-01-2008, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by dmi

Actually, I'm pretty good with numbers. My phonebook is empty -- all the numbers are stored in my brain. But that's just me...

Type 466453.com in your browser...

Anyway, you guys might want to check out this cool post by Adam Dicker.

Then i'll be honest. Your one of the few. I dont know a single person who memorizes phone numbers anymore.
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Justin

dgridley · 06-01-2008, 11:18 AM

I have trouble forgetting phone numbers! I'll make one call and will normally remember the number seemingly forever. Assuming it was important to me in the first place..

Originally Posted by Spade

I dont know a single person who memorizes phone numbers anymore.

Justin

Spade · 06-01-2008, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by dgridley

I have trouble forgetting phone numbers! I'll make one call and will normally remember the number seemingly forever. Assuming it was important to me in the first place..

Pretty incredible. You two are the only people I know who can do that.

st0rmer · 06-01-2008, 11:50 AM

I never forget phone numbers either. To be honest, i find it easier to remember number patterns than names

skylineleong · 06-01-2008, 12:22 PM

Check the latest Number Sales Report:
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The Official NN.com, NNN.com, NNNN.com, NNNNN.com sales report thread
http://www.namepros.com/short-domain...-com-nnnn.html

Phone Spell tool (type in a number and see what words it spells on a phone)
http://www.phonespell.org/

rkbdomain · 06-01-2008, 03:07 PM

To get a sense for the variety of development uses for NNNNN.com's, here is a sample:

Foreign postal code: 30900.com (real estate company for beach properties in an Israeli postal code). NNNNN.com's also represent postal codes in France, Italy, Kuwait, Sweden, Finland, Brazil, Spain, Czech Republic, and more...

US zip code (non-Marchex): 20910.com (local realtor in Silver Spring, MD).

US zip code (Marchex): 90210.com (Marchex owns about 35k-40k of these, plus all the NNNNN.net varieties).

Random Brandable: 48073.com (art portfolio site).

Product Related: 10061.com (Timberland uses this because it sells a popular boot with the number 10061). Also see 10015.com (Adequate.org uses this because of the ISO 10015 quality assurance standard)

Numbers representing letters spelled on Cell phone: 62623.com (OANBD.com for Open All Night Business Directory).
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Other mobile phone related: 89331.com (UK Mobile phone site).

Chinese site: 17173.com (#59 site in China currently in Alexa rankings, in top 1000 sites worldwide).

Other foreign site: 48300.com (Turkish site for computer-related forum).

catch · 06-05-2008, 02:16 AM

I think 5N.coms will be more and more value! they are very good for end users, and now the price is low!

Dragoth · 06-05-2008, 04:31 AM

NNNNN's will rise.

That doesn't mean they are all useful.

If you manage to get one, the best thing to do is either sell or hold based on what it might signify (e.g. zip code) or development potential.

Btw there will be domains like 31337 (leet speak), lol.

DomainGuider · 06-07-2008, 11:35 AM

any more thoughts ?

DomainGuider · 08-31-2008, 06:13 PM

I see only a few drops from the past one week or so....

lzy · 08-31-2008, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by dmi

Type 466453.com in your browser...

Wow! Registered by Google themselves since 2000.

05-31-2008, 10:13 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
DomainGuider NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 463	Future of NNNNN.coms I don't know where are we heading with NNNNN.coms I see many 5N.coms dropping everyday though they are being caught instantly. I see many sellers selling 5N.coms for $10 each which have almost a year before they expire. Could someone throw some light on it

05-31-2008, 10:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
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Spade NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 7,848	Im not much a believer in NNNNN.com's for a few basic reasons. 1. Hard to Remember and Brand 2. Typically lack meaning, which normally makes a domain signifigant. Consider this. I want to start a business around selling Mouse Pads online. How does having an NNNNN.com correlate to selling Mouse Pads? How would my customers remember it if I started to brand a random number like 59302.com (assuming of course its not a zip code). I think these make poor investments unless they are zip codes or important numbers. Justin __________________ Read my Blog! NameBio.com - Search The Domain Sales Index Buying LLLL.com's ending in "CA"

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evirtual1 NamePros Expert Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Rod.Tv Posts: 7,359	numbers are easier on a cell phone , keyboards on a phone ...... i prefer the number method , nnnnn/s that spell words may be a good investment __________________ StreamFreeGames.Com is a bodis parking page Business Information School Study Guide Blonde

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evirtual1 NamePros Expert Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Rod.Tv Posts: 7,359	but a short word is enough for me to remember and then spell it on a phone , worddial are an interesting company , check them out, i have 4636.info , it spells info dot info ....... easy to remember i think , imagine going to any city in the world and tying that in to get all the info you need , taxis , hotels ...etc __________________ StreamFreeGames.Com is a bodis parking page Business Information School Study Guide Blonde

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05-31-2008, 11:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
abcproductions NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 728	i think NNNNN.coms will become quite valuable in a few years time. right now you can purchase them for less than reg fee and i suggest anyone who can hold for a few years pickup as many as you can.

05-31-2008, 09:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
rkbdomain NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 548 Follow @rkbdomain	I think the important thing is development potential, end user sales, and prices of NNN.com's and NNNN.com's. The latter is doing very well, and so eventually NNNNN.com's will rise in price. With very strong end-user sales for NNN.com's an NNNN.com's, and sales for NNNNN.com's picking up, the baseline for a random NNNNN.com should rise. May take a little bit of time, but I think it will happen. Also, scarcity is a factor as well. There are only 100k NNNNN.com v. 450k+ LLLL.com, and the proportion of NNNNN.com's that are developed sites is very high, near 50%. So that's only about 50k for a reseller market. And not all the developed NNNNN.com's are US zip codes, some are foreign postal code sites, cell phone sites, random brandables (surprising number of these actually), and most importantly, Chinese sites, which I think is about 8% of all NNNNN.com's. The Chinese sites is probably one of the best areas for future growth, because traffic there is going to continue to rise rapidly as internet use expands. Also, as the price of other numerics rises, NNNNN.com's should rise as well. But it may take a year or so. __________________ www.NNNNNdomains.com The source for Numeric Domains: market analysis, registration trends, and auction results.

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st0rmer Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 556	I never forget phone numbers either. To be honest, i find it easier to remember number patterns than names Last edited by st0rmer; 06-01-2008 at 11:56 AM.

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skylineleong Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SkylineLeong.com Posts: 4,748 Follow @skylineleong	Check the latest Number Sales Report: ------------------------------------- The Official NN.com, NNN.com, NNNN.com, NNNNN.com sales report thread http://www.namepros.com/short-domain...-com-nnnn.html Phone Spell tool (type in a number and see what words it spells on a phone) http://www.phonespell.org/ __________________ ★ ★ ★ LLLL.com & LLLL.net ★ ★ ★ LOW BIN . 3DMonster.com , 3DWebs.net, 3DWorld.org . MMM.im, 6446.net, yuuj.com (PM offer) Searchs.co, 3Dating.com, Domain-Name.me

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rkbdomain NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 548 Follow @rkbdomain	Development of NNNNN.com's To get a sense for the variety of development uses for NNNNN.com's, here is a sample: Foreign postal code: 30900.com (real estate company for beach properties in an Israeli postal code). NNNNN.com's also represent postal codes in France, Italy, Kuwait, Sweden, Finland, Brazil, Spain, Czech Republic, and more... US zip code (non-Marchex): 20910.com (local realtor in Silver Spring, MD). US zip code (Marchex): 90210.com (Marchex owns about 35k-40k of these, plus all the NNNNN.net varieties). Random Brandable: 48073.com (art portfolio site). Product Related: 10061.com (Timberland uses this because it sells a popular boot with the number 10061). Also see 10015.com (Adequate.org uses this because of the ISO 10015 quality assurance standard) Numbers representing letters spelled on Cell phone: 62623.com (OANBD.com for Open All Night Business Directory). ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=475999 Other mobile phone related: 89331.com (UK Mobile phone site). Chinese site: 17173.com (#59 site in China currently in Alexa rankings, in top 1000 sites worldwide). Other foreign site: 48300.com (Turkish site for computer-related forum). __________________ www.NNNNNdomains.com The source for Numeric Domains: market analysis, registration trends, and auction results.

06-05-2008, 02:16 AM	#21 (permalink)
catch Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 534	I think 5N.coms will be more and more value! they are very good for end users, and now the price is low!

06-05-2008, 04:31 AM	#22 (permalink)
Dragoth NamePros Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 27	NNNNN's will rise. That doesn't mean they are all useful. If you manage to get one, the best thing to do is either sell or hold based on what it might signify (e.g. zip code) or development potential. Btw there will be domains like 31337 (leet speak), lol.

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DomainGuider NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 463	any more thoughts ?

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DomainGuider NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 463	I see only a few drops from the past one week or so....

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