Is Y a vowel Vote!

Invest1010 · 05-18-2008, 06:59 PM

IS Y a Vowel!!!!!!!!!!!???????

Michael · 05-18-2008, 07:00 PM

Actually it is sometimes a vowel and sometimes a consonant. Read the explanation here. The problem is when people call it a vowel or a consonant not when it makes sense, but when it serves their purposes.

Pound · 05-18-2008, 07:26 PM

At the end of the LLLL, yes.

***SpareDomains*** · 05-18-2008, 07:55 PM

aeiou and sometimes y according to this old school jam

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2c6k3dJbOg

Rob J · 05-18-2008, 07:59 PM

It doesn't need to be a poll, it's not a matter of opinion. And you didn't even put the correct answer in your poll options.

Asmro · 05-18-2008, 08:06 PM

Personally, I think this poll was a good idea

sdtrader · 05-18-2008, 08:12 PM

You can poll all you want but according to the conventions of the English language
it serves as a consonant or a vowel. No poll will make the y in "myth" or "my" a consonant.

notlikeyou · 05-18-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by DomainRaiders.com

The problem is when people call it a vowel or a consonant not when it makes sense, but when it serves their purposes.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/470931-is-y-a-vowel-vote.html

I can't vote either way in the poll as it really depends on the placement of the "Y"

GreenGambler · 05-18-2008, 08:44 PM

I'm not going to vote. You should have added an extra poll option for "sometimes".

It just depends on the letters and order.

Bodhi · 05-18-2008, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by SpareDomains

aeiou and sometimes y according to this old school jam
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=470931

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2c6k3dJbOg

Lol, that is the first thing that came into my head. AEIOU and Sometimes Y.

Abstracts.tv · 05-18-2008, 09:39 PM

I vote no. Why? Well, let's take the word pray, stay, or even day. I never thought of the y in these words as a vowel. Does a word have to have a vowel in it to be a word? Hmmmm, so how about try, fry, or my..... maybe I'm wrong! Oh well, I voted.

Frank

essejaygee · 05-18-2008, 11:37 PM

I think that as far as domain names go, any attempt to call "y" a vowel, when it is part of a relatively unpronounceable name is just trickery. Since the status of "y" depends on how it is *pronounced* in a word due to its placement in said word, its vowel status in an unpronounceable llll, say, must be (kind of) indeterminate. The grammatical rules in question were just not meant to handle nonsensical "words" (though they still might look pretty cool).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=470931

The normal set of vowels are exempt here, since they are pronounced in a "vowel-y" (pronounceable!) sort of way regardless of their position in a word.

In a more or less pronounceable name, I guess the value one attaches to the letter "y" must depend on the overall pronounceability of the name, where a dictionary word involving the letter as vowel would be at the top of the heap as far as value is concerned.

Edited for spaces and lack of smile

htmlindex · 05-19-2008, 03:05 AM

From what was taught in school, "AEIOU" are vowels, not Y

AndyR · 05-19-2008, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by htmlindex

From what was taught in school, "AEIOU" are vowels, not Y

Exactly. VCVCCCC

YAYnames.com · 05-19-2008, 04:55 AM

This one's a vowel:
WHY

This one's not:
PLAY

smashfactory · 05-19-2008, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by YAYnames.com

This one's a vowel:
WHY

This one's not:
PLAY

exactly-

Steve · 05-19-2008, 06:42 AM

Vowel: sky, why, Psychology
Consonant: yesteryear

There will never be a definite "yes" or "no" answer to this question. I'm not going to vote because of that.

newdomainer.mobi · 05-19-2008, 08:29 AM

What a stupid poll.

Y is not a vowel.... period!

Y can be used in such a way that it plays the role of the vowel.... that doesn't make it a vowel any more than it makes some "D-rated" Actor (male) a woman because he plays one of the ugly sisters at the xmas pantomime!

;-)

knight88 · 05-19-2008, 09:20 AM

Y is sometimes considered a vowel.

GreenGambler · 05-19-2008, 09:22 AM

I was always taught in school growing up, "AEIOU and sometimes Y".

Here is a quote from the wikipedia history and definition of "Y" .

Originally Posted by wikipedia.org

The letter Y was originally established as a vowel. In the standard English language, the letter Y is traditionally regarded as a consonant, but a survey of almost any English text, will show that Y more commonly functions as a vowel. In many cases, it is known as a semivowel (a type of consonant).

Ben42 · 05-19-2008, 09:31 AM

It's interesting to see what you would have to choose between yes or no. I think it's a fun poll without the cop-out sometimes.

I say no, even when used as a vowel. Words like Fly, Why, and Cry do not exist and are figments of our imagination.

Either that or they are just spelled wrong and should be Fli, Whi and Cri.

jack1 · 05-19-2008, 09:38 AM

You cannot say "yes" or "not", since it depends on the word you are considering: sometimes Y is a vowel, sometimes it's a consonant..

Originally Posted by DomainRaiders.com

.....here. ...

Eh eh, I was just gonna add the same link

dag · 05-19-2008, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by YAYnames.com

This one's a vowel:
WHY

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=470931
This one's not:
PLAY

That's not true: "AY" is a double-vowel combination, just like "AI" in the word "chai."

Y is not a vowel when used as the "yuh" sound in "yard" or "beyond."

I think it's actually closer to the truth to say that "Y" is a vowel that sometimes acts like a consonant, as it shows up much more frequently in a vowel position than it does in a consonant-type position.

YAYnames.com · 05-19-2008, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by dag

That's not true: "AY" is a double-vowel combination, just like "AI" in the word "chai."
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=470931

Y is not a vowel when used as the "yuh" sound in "yard" or "beyond."

I think it's actually closer to the truth to say that "Y" is a vowel that sometimes acts like a consonant, as it shows up much more frequently in a vowel position than it does in a consonant-type position.

Baloney... and it's a consonant there, too.

dag · 05-19-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by YAYnames.com

Baloney... and it's a consonant there, too.

Which part is baloney? It's all true.

http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexper...tother/lettery

View Poll Results: IS Y a Vowel?
Yes it is a vowel	33	48.53%
No it is not a vowel	35	51.47%
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Michael DNMedia.com Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,866	Actually it is sometimes a vowel and sometimes a consonant. Read the explanation here. The problem is when people call it a vowel or a consonant not when it makes sense, but when it serves their purposes. __________________ MiniSites.com - Shift Your Domains Out of Park! DN Media Corporation \| Friend Me on Facebook \| Follow Me on Twitter

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Is Y a vowel Vote!

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05-18-2008, 07:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pound Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 2,065	At the end of the LLLL, yes.

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*SpareDomains* Business Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,450	aeiou and sometimes y according to this old school jam http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2c6k3dJbOg

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Rob J NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 399	It doesn't need to be a poll, it's not a matter of opinion. And you didn't even put the correct answer in your poll options.

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sdtrader NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 591	You can poll all you want but according to the conventions of the English language it serves as a consonant or a vowel. No poll will make the y in "myth" or "my" a consonant.

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Abstracts.tv Music Video Television! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fresno, California Posts: 3,387 Follow @Abstractstv	No! I vote no. Why? Well, let's take the word pray, stay, or even day. I never thought of the y in these words as a vowel. Does a word have to have a vowel in it to be a word? Hmmmm, so how about try, fry, or my..... maybe I'm wrong! Oh well, I voted. Frank __________________ Buy my Abstract Art: http://www.imagekind.com/MemberProfi...1-04dc1a43592b Last edited by Abstracts.tv; 05-18-2008 at 09:41 PM. Reason: ?????

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essejaygee NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 81	I think that as far as domain names go, any attempt to call "y" a vowel, when it is part of a relatively unpronounceable name is just trickery. Since the status of "y" depends on how it is pronounced in a word due to its placement in said word, its vowel status in an unpronounceable llll, say, must be (kind of) indeterminate. The grammatical rules in question were just not meant to handle nonsensical "words" (though they still might look pretty cool). ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=470931 The normal set of vowels are exempt here, since they are pronounced in a "vowel-y" (pronounceable!) sort of way regardless of their position in a word. In a more or less pronounceable name, I guess the value one attaches to the letter "y" must depend on the overall pronounceability of the name, where a dictionary word involving the letter as vowel would be at the top of the heap as far as value is concerned. Edited for spaces and lack of smile Last edited by essejaygee; 05-18-2008 at 11:42 PM.

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htmlindex NamePros Legend Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 14,241	From what was taught in school, "AEIOU" are vowels, not Y __________________ GEO Sale!! - $15 each

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Steve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,204	Vowel: sky, why, Psychology Consonant: yesteryear There will never be a definite "yes" or "no" answer to this question. I'm not going to vote because of that. __________________ Steve NamePros Staff Emeritus

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newdomainer.mobi Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 424	What a stupid poll. Y is not a vowel.... period! Y can be used in such a way that it plays the role of the vowel.... that doesn't make it a vowel any more than it makes some "D-rated" Actor (male) a woman because he plays one of the ugly sisters at the xmas pantomime! ;-)

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knight88 Account Suspended Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 45	Y is sometimes considered a vowel.

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Ben42 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 2,068	It's interesting to see what you would have to choose between yes or no. I think it's a fun poll without the cop-out sometimes. I say no, even when used as a vowel. Words like Fly, Why, and Cry do not exist and are figments of our imagination. Either that or they are just spelled wrong and should be Fli, Whi and Cri. __________________ Good Bands \| Tablet Protectors \| SAIL \| Which Toner? \| 3d Projecting Last edited by Ben42; 05-19-2008 at 09:35 AM.

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