Moniker, wth are they thinking?? (On a rant)

Ziggery.com · 05-06-2008, 08:16 PM

To go further with the title, I'm talking about the T.R.A.F.F.I.C auction thats coming up in 2 weeks.

The people who know me, know that I'm a calm person who doesn't get worked up easily BUT this has got me mad enough to type this out!

Take a look through the list, there are names in there that people wouldn't give a reg fee for and they are let in to the auction out of the 110k names submitted. Personally, I think its time to fire some people who pick some of those names.

http://marketplacepro.moniker.com/auction/index.html

I think whoever picks these names should be true domainers and unbiased.

Man o Man, I'm as mad as hell over this, not because mine didn't get accepted into the auction, in fact a couple of mine did, but if you look at some of the names left out of the LIVE auction and put into the extended auction I think Moniker submissions department has their head stuck where the sun doesn't shine! To have a double premium LLLL.com in the auction listed between 1k-5k is just nuts!

If Moniker wanted to get more attention by broadcasting this live, well, they got my attention but I won't be watching it live. In fact, I've already sent a request in to have my names pulled from the auction because it's obvious they have no idea what's going on and couldn't run a drunk-fest in a brewery! Unbelievable!

I watched it last time and I was hoping they would have a different auctioneer, nope...well, I'm going to stop my rant there before I say something I'll regret because it's right on the tip of my tongue and I'm just not going there!!!

I apologize if I offended anyone who has names in this auction, that was not my intention!

Moniker Submissions Department: Replace them.....
Auctioneer: Replace him too
Snapnames: Do your homework

Thanks

Rhinoz on a Rant

wot · 05-06-2008, 08:46 PM

Not just Moniker , check out some of the "Top Domains" at Sedo - some of those must be on a who you know basis.

Personally stopped submitting to Moniker /Snap for the time being- mainly because of the points you raise -however, three names that I had submitted and were rejected - auctions since Nov last year - sold them for a total of $23,000 this year.

Michael · 05-06-2008, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by wot

some of those must be on a who you know basis.

Absolutely agree with you. I've had NNN.coms rejected based on quality (not reserve) at GreatDomains, and some serious garbage that couldn't get a single bid got in. Moniker seems to be following suit.

italiandragon · 05-06-2008, 10:01 PM

if I tell you that I got refused a nice LLL.com with all 3 premium letters...

So I stopped dealing with them months ago.

Ziggery.com · 05-07-2008, 06:23 AM

Ok, just for a quick update, I have had several domainers tell me last night and today that they are also pulling their names from the auction, maybe if enough people start to do this that Moniker and the other auction houses will start to listem. I also had a voicemail from "name left out" at Moniker saying they will call me tomorrow to discuss my grievance. I shall update you further once this call has taken place.

Thanks

Rhinoz on a Rant!

Len · 05-07-2008, 06:49 AM

I asked to pull a couple of mine and was told that I would have to pay the commission!! This is total BS ....

Makis.TV · 05-07-2008, 06:57 AM

Moniker is eating its own fame...

advaita · 05-07-2008, 08:00 AM

Got to say I agree - my names never get picked but I am really surprised at some of the rubbish that does get picked. Last auction I even pointed out to my manager that one of the .mobi names on the list was a typo, he didn't seem too pleased at my pointing it out but he said that .mobi wanted it that way - go figure.
On a related note - where are the best places to sell names if auctions are no good ? Any info. gratefully received.

-REECE- · 05-07-2008, 08:34 AM

Sedo auctions seem to do more good for most names than any of these fancy, overhyped, underperforming, commission-taxing auctions.

Originally Posted by advaita

Got to say I agree - my names never get picked but I am really surprised at some of the rubbish that does get picked. Last auction I even pointed out to my manager that one of the .mobi names on the list was a typo, he didn't seem too pleased at my pointing it out but he said that .mobi wanted it that way - go figure.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/466284-moniker-wth-are-they-thinking-rant.html
On a related note - where are the best places to sell names if auctions are no good ? Any info. gratefully received.

smashfactory · 05-07-2008, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by rhinoz

Ok, just for a quick update, I have had several domainers tell me last night and today that they are also pulling their names from the auction, maybe if enough people start to do this that Moniker and the other auction houses will start to listem. I also had a voicemail from "name left out" at Moniker saying they will call me tomorrow to discuss my grievance. I shall update you further once this call has taken place.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=466284

Thanks

Rhinoz on a Rant!

you wont get enough of a pull to make any sort of dent- no one will pull from live auction, and with over 2500 names, lots can go and there would still be a happening auction- for many, they see bigger dollars at these auctions- and moniker knows it- it always boils down to lots of happy domainers vs a few disgruntled ones-

and you know which way the pendulum swings one that-

Rochemontagne · 05-07-2008, 08:46 AM

How many of these 2500+ domains will sell at auction? I say less than 100...that's my opinion.

advaita · 05-07-2008, 08:53 AM

Reece do you have to pay for the various Sedo promotions to get your names noticed or do people just pick them out of the many thousands Sedo have without the need for any promotion ?

Teddy7 · 05-07-2008, 08:56 AM

Absolutely agree!
Moniker is not able to select the right domain names!

-REECE- · 05-07-2008, 08:58 AM

The higher end LLLL.coms I'm working with at the moment literally sell themselves on Sedo. My Dato.com had 2 offers on the very first day I put it on Sedo.

Directing traffic to your listings (eg. Adwords) also helps, as does promotion in forums.

Originally Posted by advaita

Reece do you have to pay for the various Sedo promotions to get your names noticed or do people just pick them out of the many thousands Sedo have without the need for any promotion ?

Yofie · 05-07-2008, 09:01 AM

I learned my lesson One Time when I submitted a couple names. Since they are held for about Half Of A Year (by the contract) a person is NUTS to submit any domains. If your domain doesn't sell, you can't sell it for about 6 months without paying Moniker the commisson for it! Now that is some crazy shizzel...

gazzip · 05-07-2008, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Yofie

I learned my lesson One Time when I submitted a couple names. Since they are held for about Half Of A Year (by the contract) a person is NUTS to submit any domains. If your domain doesn't sell, you can't sell it for about 6 months without paying Moniker the commisson for it! Now that is some crazy shizzel...

Is'nt it 2 years now ?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=466284

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Ziggery.com · 05-07-2008, 09:58 AM

Well, I agree with you all and I'm not going to let this drop for 1 second and I know I might be the small fish in the big pond BUT if enough of us little fish can make a splash, then something MIGHT get done!

Tired of being dictated to, if I wanted that I would call my EX !!

Fight for your domains people!

npcomplete · 05-07-2008, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by smashfactory

Originally Posted by rhinoz

Ok, just for a quick update, I have had several domainers tell me last night and today that they are also pulling their names from the auction, maybe if enough people start to do this that Moniker and the other auction houses will start to listem. I also had a voicemail from "name left out" at Moniker saying they will call me tomorrow to discuss my grievance. I shall update you further once this call has taken place.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=466284

Thanks

Rhinoz on a Rant!

you wont get enough of a pull to make any sort of dent- no one will pull from live auction, and with over 2500 names, lots can go and there would still be a happening auction- for many, they see bigger dollars at these auctions- and moniker knows it- it always boils down to lots of happy domainers vs a few disgruntled ones-

and you know which way the pendulum swings one that-

Originally Posted by Len

I asked to pull a couple of mine and was told that I would have to pay the commission!! This is total BS ....

Pulling names is almost impossible as far as I can tell. I asked Monte to pull my domains from the last TRAFFIC. I was in the hospital for 3 weeks on morphine drip (not as much fun as it sounds). I explained this to Monte and said I just wanted one thing less to worry about while trying to save my life. He said "NO", unless I paid commission. He insisted on sticking to the contract. This was BEFORE the auction list was announced! Nobody knew about the submitted names but Moniker.

After several email messages to Monty (after he sold one of my domains at the auction), I finally canceled ALL further relations with Moniker, and got my names out of the Moniker jail where they lock you up for years. Now a little bit of professionalism would have gone a long way here in recognizing that special circumstances happen in life (like morphine drip and major surgery) that might lead you to cut some slack for customers (again, before auction list announced). But no...

So they sold one name, and ended up with a pi**ed off customer (me) that transferred all of the names out of the Moniker registrar, canceled all future auction contracts, and will generally be an anti-customer for the rest of my life. Sometimes when you treat a customer like s**t, some of it bounces back in your face.

Dealing with moniker was enough to make me want to stay on that morphine drip... just to forget about their crappy service.

advaita · 05-07-2008, 10:43 AM

Well it looks like I've been lucky not to have any of my names accepted ! I didn't realize what sort of an outfit Moniker were.

gingeman · 05-07-2008, 10:43 AM

moniker used to get nothing but praise... oh how times have changed...

MaguirePhD · 05-07-2008, 10:47 AM

Have some with Moniker for Paris. Missed Orlando. Not happy with reading these posts, though.

Gives a lot of room for skepticism, now.

Thanks,

Doc

gazzip · 05-07-2008, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by npcomplete

Pulling names is almost impossible as far as I can tell. I asked Monte to pull my domains from the last TRAFFIC. I was in the hospital for 3 weeks on morphine drip (not as much fun as it sounds). I explained this to Monte and said I just wanted one thing less to worry about while trying to save my life. He said "NO", unless I paid commission. He insisted on sticking to the contract. This was BEFORE the auction list was announced! Nobody knew about the submitted names but Moniker.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=466284
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Damn, no compassion eh ! WTH is wrong with these people ? A very sad way to act.

ps - Hope the doc fixed you up good

pps - I actually enjoyed my morphine experience

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SharonTucci · 05-07-2008, 10:57 AM

This list isn't any different from ones in the past except there are more non-com's than usual. There's actually MORE I'm interested in myself as a buyer than I have been for the past few Traffic auctions. They accepted 12 out of 50 or so domains we submitted.

Not to defend Moniker here (I have posted my negative thoughts and experiences in the other Moniker thread) but selection of domains isn't just about the domain itself but also the reserve. A reserve should be set to stimulate interest in a domain. If you look at my other posts recently, I posted in the Roundtable auction thread some tips on submitting to auctions.

DomainBuyerBroker · 05-07-2008, 11:04 AM

For what it's worth, I sold a name at the Round Table live auction and it was a great process from start to finish.

yandig · 05-07-2008, 11:10 AM

I'd like to put my two cents in...

The Orlando auction will be my third TRAFFIC auction in which I've had domains up for bid. (I sold one in the November auction, none in the February) I have had nothing but praise for Moniker so far, and my rep (Don) has been excellent and responded quickly to any emails.

Now, I agree that their terms are a little bit constricting. It's hard to hold domains (without selling them to outside parties) while waiting to see which names are chosen for their auctions. I believe that's a call that each seller has to make --- is it worth inclusion in the auction to either hold all your domains or pay Moniker a commission on any sale? To me, the answer is "Yes, it's worth it", but that may change if I don't see any results at the Orlando auction or future auctions.

I think Moniker has to have the rigid exclusivity agreement to protect the integrity of their auctions. If buyers are bidding on domains that aren't in the "owner's" possession any more, then that creates a BIG problem for Moniker. They are obviuosly making a lot of money on these auctions, and don't want to lose their customers. Of course, they stand to alienate domain sellers, but I think that's a risk they are willing to take. There are a lot more potential sellers than buyers at this point.

I feel bad for those who have had negative experiences with Moniker. Hopefully, they are listening to all of the complaints to refine their auction practices. I look forward to seeing better relations between domainers and Moniker in the future.

05-06-2008, 08:16 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
Ziggery.com Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 192.168.1.1 Posts: 2,903	Moniker, wth are they thinking?? (On a rant) To go further with the title, I'm talking about the T.R.A.F.F.I.C auction thats coming up in 2 weeks. The people who know me, know that I'm a calm person who doesn't get worked up easily BUT this has got me mad enough to type this out! Take a look through the list, there are names in there that people wouldn't give a reg fee for and they are let in to the auction out of the 110k names submitted. Personally, I think its time to fire some people who pick some of those names. http://marketplacepro.moniker.com/auction/index.html I think whoever picks these names should be true domainers and unbiased. Man o Man, I'm as mad as hell over this, not because mine didn't get accepted into the auction, in fact a couple of mine did, but if you look at some of the names left out of the LIVE auction and put into the extended auction I think Moniker submissions department has their head stuck where the sun doesn't shine! To have a double premium LLLL.com in the auction listed between 1k-5k is just nuts! If Moniker wanted to get more attention by broadcasting this live, well, they got my attention but I won't be watching it live. In fact, I've already sent a request in to have my names pulled from the auction because it's obvious they have no idea what's going on and couldn't run a drunk-fest in a brewery! Unbelievable! I watched it last time and I was hoping they would have a different auctioneer, nope...well, I'm going to stop my rant there before I say something I'll regret because it's right on the tip of my tongue and I'm just not going there!!! I apologize if I offended anyone who has names in this auction, that was not my intention! Moniker Submissions Department: Replace them..... Auctioneer: Replace him too Snapnames: Do your homework Thanks Rhinoz on a Rant __________________ Kruncher.com - For Sale At Sedo - 14 Years Old. Ziggery.com for sale, offers welcome (Domain name Only)

05-06-2008, 08:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
wot NamePros Expert Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Golden Triangle Posts: 5,776	Not just Moniker , check out some of the "Top Domains" at Sedo - some of those must be on a who you know basis. Personally stopped submitting to Moniker /Snap for the time being- mainly because of the points you raise -however, three names that I had submitted and were rejected - auctions since Nov last year - sold them for a total of $23,000 this year. __________________ Perú.co,上海.biz,红旗.com,MonikerBlog.com 247.in,888Blog.com,México.co,中国888.com

05-06-2008, 10:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
italiandragon NamePros Expert Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 6,438	if I tell you that I got refused a nice LLL.com with all 3 premium letters... So I stopped dealing with them months ago. __________________ www.MMCP.com www.decretoingiuntivo.net www.ipotecalegale.info www.swishersweetslittlecigars.com

05-07-2008, 06:23 AM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
Ziggery.com Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 192.168.1.1 Posts: 2,903	Ok, just for a quick update, I have had several domainers tell me last night and today that they are also pulling their names from the auction, maybe if enough people start to do this that Moniker and the other auction houses will start to listem. I also had a voicemail from "name left out" at Moniker saying they will call me tomorrow to discuss my grievance. I shall update you further once this call has taken place. Thanks Rhinoz on a Rant! __________________ Kruncher.com - For Sale At Sedo - 14 Years Old. Ziggery.com for sale, offers welcome (Domain name Only)

05-07-2008, 06:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
Makis.TV Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glyfada, Greece Posts: 2,823 Follow @makismour	Moniker is eating its own fame... __________________ Check your Speed Test in just a few seconds Domain blogging, hosting tips, wordpress theme reviews and development

05-07-2008, 06:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
Len dot TV'er Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Central Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,757	I asked to pull a couple of mine and was told that I would have to pay the commission!! This is total BS ....

05-07-2008, 08:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
advaita Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,518	Got to say I agree - my names never get picked but I am really surprised at some of the rubbish that does get picked. Last auction I even pointed out to my manager that one of the .mobi names on the list was a typo, he didn't seem too pleased at my pointing it out but he said that .mobi wanted it that way - go figure. On a related note - where are the best places to sell names if auctions are no good ? Any info. gratefully received. __________________ Best Selling Ebooks * Stocks and Shares * Radley Bags * Chronographs * Cameras Under $300 * How to Trade Stocks Online * Netbooksfor Kids * Geiger Counter Kits * Machetes

05-07-2008, 08:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rochemontagne NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains of Colorado Posts: 366	How many of these 2500+ domains will sell at auction? I say less than 100...that's my opinion. __________________ PricelessCruises.com, SportsBook.lv, Gamble.cz, PokerAmbassador.com, Angie.mobi, Loveland.mobi, JapanFyi.com, AmericaFyi.com, GodFyi.com, Truty.com, AspenPoker.com, ColoradoMountainGolf.com

05-07-2008, 08:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
advaita Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,518	Reece do you have to pay for the various Sedo promotions to get your names noticed or do people just pick them out of the many thousands Sedo have without the need for any promotion ? __________________ Best Selling Ebooks * Stocks and Shares * Radley Bags * Chronographs * Cameras Under $300 * How to Trade Stocks Online * Netbooksfor Kids * Geiger Counter Kits * Machetes

05-07-2008, 08:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
Teddy7 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austria Posts: 1,856	Absolutely agree! Moniker is not able to select the right domain names! __________________ www.Aviates.com For Sale!

05-07-2008, 09:01 AM	#15 (permalink)
Yofie Yofie.com Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: DotWeekly.com Posts: 2,935	I learned my lesson One Time when I submitted a couple names. Since they are held for about Half Of A Year (by the contract) a person is NUTS to submit any domains. If your domain doesn't sell, you can't sell it for about 6 months without paying Moniker the commisson for it! Now that is some crazy shizzel... __________________ DotWeekly.com <--My Blog, Readers Welcome!

05-07-2008, 09:58 AM	THREAD STARTER #17 (permalink)
Ziggery.com Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 192.168.1.1 Posts: 2,903	Well, I agree with you all and I'm not going to let this drop for 1 second and I know I might be the small fish in the big pond BUT if enough of us little fish can make a splash, then something MIGHT get done! Tired of being dictated to, if I wanted that I would call my EX !! Fight for your domains people! __________________ Kruncher.com - For Sale At Sedo - 14 Years Old. Ziggery.com for sale, offers welcome (Domain name Only)

05-07-2008, 10:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
advaita Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,518	Well it looks like I've been lucky not to have any of my names accepted ! I didn't realize what sort of an outfit Moniker were. __________________ Best Selling Ebooks * Stocks and Shares * Radley Bags * Chronographs * Cameras Under $300 * How to Trade Stocks Online * Netbooksfor Kids * Geiger Counter Kits * Machetes

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gingeman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Classified Posts: 2,720	moniker used to get nothing but praise... oh how times have changed... __________________ Poker Vids 3 Character domain! Subscribe to my newsletter! Accurate Name Domains For Sale DomainingLinks.com

05-07-2008, 10:47 AM	#21 (permalink)
MaguirePhD Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 320	Moniker Hmnnnnnn.... Have some with Moniker for Paris. Missed Orlando. Not happy with reading these posts, though. Gives a lot of room for skepticism, now. Thanks, Doc

05-07-2008, 10:57 AM	#23 (permalink)
SharonTucci Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,005	This list isn't any different from ones in the past except there are more non-com's than usual. There's actually MORE I'm interested in myself as a buyer than I have been for the past few Traffic auctions. They accepted 12 out of 50 or so domains we submitted. Not to defend Moniker here (I have posted my negative thoughts and experiences in the other Moniker thread) but selection of domains isn't just about the domain itself but also the reserve. A reserve should be set to stimulate interest in a domain. If you look at my other posts recently, I posted in the Roundtable auction thread some tips on submitting to auctions. __________________ Domainate.com - coming soon :)

05-07-2008, 11:04 AM	#24 (permalink)
DomainBuyerBroker NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cape Cod Mass Posts: 884	For what it's worth, I sold a name at the Round Table live auction and it was a great process from start to finish. __________________ Rob Sequin = Domain Buyer Broker

05-07-2008, 11:10 AM	#25 (permalink)
yandig Domain Bagger Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Coma Berenices Posts: 3,891 Follow @domainbagger	I'd like to put my two cents in... The Orlando auction will be my third TRAFFIC auction in which I've had domains up for bid. (I sold one in the November auction, none in the February) I have had nothing but praise for Moniker so far, and my rep (Don) has been excellent and responded quickly to any emails. Now, I agree that their terms are a little bit constricting. It's hard to hold domains (without selling them to outside parties) while waiting to see which names are chosen for their auctions. I believe that's a call that each seller has to make --- is it worth inclusion in the auction to either hold all your domains or pay Moniker a commission on any sale? To me, the answer is "Yes, it's worth it", but that may change if I don't see any results at the Orlando auction or future auctions. I think Moniker has to have the rigid exclusivity agreement to protect the integrity of their auctions. If buyers are bidding on domains that aren't in the "owner's" possession any more, then that creates a BIG problem for Moniker. They are obviuosly making a lot of money on these auctions, and don't want to lose their customers. Of course, they stand to alienate domain sellers, but I think that's a risk they are willing to take. There are a lot more potential sellers than buyers at this point. I feel bad for those who have had negative experiences with Moniker. Hopefully, they are listening to all of the complaints to refine their auction practices. I look forward to seeing better relations between domainers and Moniker in the future. __________________ Yandig Available Domains

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