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| Forum Moderator Forum Moderator | WOW... I guess I won't be buying an LL.com afterall These panelists have WAY too much power imho... 2 letter domains + generics should be off limits. Makes no sense that anyone should be "entitled" to an LL.com that could stand for God knows how many other things... If these things keep going up in value, I really wonder how long it'll be before we have a bunch of companies attempting to reverse hijack these merely because it's cheaper than legitimately acquiring them... With the cost of filing a complaint, one might as well file a complaint first and inquire about purchasing the domain afterwards if unsuccessful. A very sad day for domainers... |
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| Account Closed | agreed, he turned down offers for 1 million in past make no mistake he doesn't need money, not the point, but makes clearer that it's not bad faith, just that he's a rich guy and likes collecting domains. his call imo same way if you own 20 van goghs and keep them in your shed, it's your call, you dont expect the Dutch government to take you to court for abusing their heritage, yet that would be more serious maybe forgetting parking altogether is best, i am dveeloping more and more as every day goes on More Here |
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| Forum Moderator Forum Moderator | It's ridiculous... If someone wants to collect paintings, property, shares of stocks, currency, etc they're free to do it, but if you don't put a $1M domain to good use, you lose it? Seriously wtf?
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| Account Closed | Agreed Reece Also, he would have paid a lot of money to acquire, they're using this against him, they say one thing against him is he wasn't the original registrant?!! wtf seriously we should mass complain about these freaks who made the decision, friggin shylocks and fraudsters. whats more German firms are notorious for underhand tactics |
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![]() companies know wipo is the cheapest way to have a name can cost thousands or even millions and some have been successful there i am worried because this shows maybe one day (and i think it isnt so far) who have the money will always win | ||||
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| Forum Moderator Forum Moderator | That's what I fear too Bricio. It's a sad day when one has to worry that what they own can be taken away from them at anytime for some made-up-BS reason. What's next? Is someone gonna wipo CNET for not putting com.com to good use?
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| Account Closed | That's precisely what worries me when it comes to very short domains, especially 2 or 3 letter ones. I remember that we discussed recently on NP the purchase of NTV.tv on Sedo. I pointed out that it might be risky as there are many huge tv channels which are called NTV (in Russia, in the US, in Germany, in Japan, in India, etc). Almost all very short domains are abbreviations of company names, many of which are trademarked. The fact that these very short domains are abbreviations of company names is precisely what gives them a very high value, especially when it's a .com. I would definitely advise anybody who owns a LL.com or LLL.com to develop it and not park it. Parking those very valuable names is the best way to lose them in a trademark dispute, especially as I'm pretty sure that these disputes on very short domains will be seen more and more often in the future. |
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Well it's quite obvious that this should lead to a lawsuit. There's just too much at stake. It should be quite interesting to follow... | ||||
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| Forum Moderator Forum Moderator | As would I ![]() Someone has to teach these POS they can't just treat us like dirt, screw us out of the domains we legitimately own, and label us cybersquatters...
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| Account Closed | What's interesting is that, if you check on WIPO, there are actually quite a few companies who have trademarked "LH" worldwide, including the Swiss luxury jeweler Leon Hatot (part of the huge Swatch Group). How can Lufthansa call this cybersquatting when other companies have trademarked this very same abbreviation too ? |
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people out there dont know domainers, they know big companies and when they do wrong things they are in the news and of course this gives us all a bad reputationse those who lead this industry should be have the those who are the most influent here should conduct their business fairly but sometimes it doesnt happen, so those out there know us cybersquatters | ||||
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| NamePros Founder Administrator |
The lawsuit is already pending. This will be a very interesting case to follow. | ||||
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| Senior Member | Fortunately Elequa has the funds to fight this in Federal court and hopefully will win there. He had already brought suit before the UDRP decision, perhaps an indication that he expected the ruling. He may have smelled a rat. The question is what can be done about an out-of-control WIPO agency? It is the same issue as the Snowe bill - the potential of a daisy chain of companies each hijacking a domain from the previous owner. There need not be foul play in this decision, ignorance and dislike of domainers would suffice. Many view all domaining as "cybersquating" and parked pages as the internet equivalent of litter. The best defense may be to not hold valuable domains unless you have a trademark and are using them. |
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Domaining is perfectly legal and it's about time we were stopped being treated like social lepors. | ||||
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| www.DataCube.com | This is a load of crap. It is unfortunate the domain was lost, however I think the court battle is exactly what is needed to end this crap once and for all. I think in these kind of cases, even if the ruling goes against the domain owner, the winner should still be forced to pay fair market value like with eminent domain. This is just a wholesale theft of a $1M+ domain. |
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I guess the best thing to do for LL.com (or possibly even LLL.com) owners is to trademark these domains, don't you think so ? It's too expensive and useless to trademark every single domain, but I think it's something to consider seriously for very valuable domains, especially two or three letter ones which are almost always abbreviations of company names (which means a very high risk of trademark dispute). | ||||
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think how connected politicians and heads of industry are? decisions made in houses of parliament in UK all the time where Lords are directors in companies and all know each other etc sure same goes on here | ||||
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