Good Overture Alternatives

x11joex11 · 02-17-2008, 03:46 AM

I'm looking for a site that is a 'fast' and good alternative to Yahoo's Overture Site, can anyone point me in the right direction.

So far I only know of iwebtool.com, but it's very slow =(. Help Appreciated!

Best,
- Joe~

John Doe · 02-17-2008, 04:19 AM

For keyword research

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/suggestion/
http://freekeywords.wordtracker.com/
http://www.keyworddiscovery.com/search.html

Other tools

http://www.seochat.com/

x11joex11 · 02-17-2008, 05:20 AM

That word tracker one is pretty interesting

, thanks for letting me know about it!

Do you know any that don't have a capcha service on it that are reputable?

cybermonkey · 02-17-2008, 05:55 AM

For all my domain searches I use GoogleKeywords.

https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

John Doe · 02-17-2008, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by x11joex11

Do you know any that don't have a capcha service on it that are reputable?

With Estibot you can check OVT and WT without capcha.

x11joex11 · 02-17-2008, 03:56 PM

Thanks for estibot lead! Great site

Sam · 02-17-2008, 05:49 PM

FYI: Overture STILL WORKS, it just takes 6-10 tries to get one successful results. What I do, is open 5 different overture checking sites and hit search on all of them for the same term. Takes 1-2 cycles to ping a success result, but it works -_-

Charley · 02-18-2008, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by John Doe

With Estibot you can check OVT and WT without capcha.

Most of the results are inaccurate. I keyed in few terms and results it gave me at random times were different.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/433467-good-overture-alternatives.html

Originally Posted by x11joex11

Thanks for estibot lead! Great site

estibot.com · 02-18-2008, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Charley

Most of the results are inaccurate. I keyed in few terms and results it gave me at random times were different.

Which one of the tools are you using, and could you produce examples of getting different results at different times for Overture? It should not be possible, if it is, I can fix it.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433467

PS Try the ajax tool for the fastest overture results.

Thanks,
Esa

Charley · 02-19-2008, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by estibot.com

Which one of the tools are you using, and could you produce examples.

The main link www.estibot.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433467

I can show you numerous examples. Let's go with WordTracker.

- Sex.com

Estibot, wordtracker/day - 200412

WordTracker Tool - 389996

Key in any premium generic domain and compare with the orginal tool. It's all different.

glabnet · 02-19-2008, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by estibot.com

Which one of the tools are you using, and could you produce examples of getting different results ....

Thanks,
Esa

Try AdultFlintstones.com

Estibot, wordtracker/day - 0

WordTracker Tool - 1571

yandig · 02-19-2008, 12:00 PM

Esa,
The ajax tool is great! Are there any overture/wordtracker/etc... databases that a person could sort through? I'd like to be able to sort terms based on numerical results.

stub · 02-19-2008, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by estibot.com

PS Try the ajax tool for the fastest overture results.

URL, please?

yandig · 02-19-2008, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by stub

URL, please?

it's at www.estibot.com on the main page.

estibot.com · 02-19-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Charley

Most of the results are inaccurate. I keyed in few terms and results it gave me at random times were different.

Originally Posted by Charley

I can show you numerous examples. Let's go with WordTracker.
Key in any premium generic domain and compare with the orginal tool. It's all different.

I see what you mean now, Charley. From the wording in your original post I took it that you meant Estibot was internally inconsistent, which it is not.

Overture has stopped producing new data a long time ago. Estibot uses the old data, and there is ever only one possible result for a certain keyword, and it is always the same. There are some differences between estibot and overture.com results, because estibot uses its own data to complement Overture where Overture is lacking (plurals, for example). For wordtracker I have been trying to negotiate a lower price (because estibot is free to use) for getting up-to-date data, but with little success, so the data is combination of old results and in part an extrapolation from other services, and it is updated only when needed. The data is internally consistent.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433467

Whether Overture or Wordtracker are "accurate" in themselves, is up for debate, well, actually, they're not. Whether you get 200,000 or 300,000 searches for "sex", means little, because that's always an estimate, not direct data, and is vulnerable to various sources of bias.

For instance, Wordtracker gives zero search popularity for "Estibot" although anyone using the Google keyword tool knows it's not true, and I know "estibot" has hundreds of searches each day in the search engines - ergo, Wordtracker is not "accurate", so you can't really say estibot is "inaccurate" in comparison.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433467

I realize the estibot data has severe shortcomings, it's the best I can do with the current budget..

By the way, the related searches you see in the right hand column, is not Overture nor Wordtracker, it is my own estimation of searches based on those two plus Google.

Originally Posted by stub

Originally Posted by estibot.com

PS Try the ajax tool for the fastest overture results.

URL, please?

http://estibot.com/overture.php

yandig · 02-19-2008, 03:53 PM

Today I found www.vurr.com
It's a smaller database than overture, but it's dang fast.

Keynes · 02-19-2008, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by yandig

Today I found www.vurr.com
It's a smaller database than overture, but it's dang fast.

That's the actual search query data from the AOL data-leak a few years ago.

x11joex11 · 02-19-2008, 06:56 PM

Wow interesting, didn't know my thread would turn into a whole discussion. Thanks for info on vurr.com as well. I'm still considering what to use but it's exciting to actually have the creator of Estibot talking on my thread =).

estibot.com · 02-20-2008, 01:51 AM

Joe, I downloaded your DNFinder and I'm looking forward to testing it. We'll talk more.

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x11joex11 NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Alamitos, CA Posts: 923	Good Overture Alternatives I'm looking for a site that is a 'fast' and good alternative to Yahoo's Overture Site, can anyone point me in the right direction. So far I only know of iwebtool.com, but it's very slow =(. Help Appreciated! Best, - Joe~ __________________ Pay Per Lead Internet Marketing iTechWare Inc. Owner Google Adwords Management, SEO & PPC Management + Call Tracking Services

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John Doe Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,615	For keyword research http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/suggestion/ http://freekeywords.wordtracker.com/ http://www.keyworddiscovery.com/search.html Other tools http://www.seochat.com/ __________________ Domain registration - Why pay more? Discount Fragrances

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Sam Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,320	FYI: Overture STILL WORKS, it just takes 6-10 tries to get one successful results. What I do, is open 5 different overture checking sites and hit search on all of them for the same term. Takes 1-2 cycles to ping a success result, but it works -_- __________________ SPECIAL: The World's BEST Single Letter Domain Sale! Lowest single letter price on the market! Starting at $799

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cybermonkey NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dania, FL Posts: 579	For all my domain searches I use GoogleKeywords. https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

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x11joex11 NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Alamitos, CA Posts: 923	Wow interesting, didn't know my thread would turn into a whole discussion. Thanks for info on vurr.com as well. I'm still considering what to use but it's exciting to actually have the creator of Estibot talking on my thread =). __________________ Pay Per Lead Internet Marketing iTechWare Inc. Owner Google Adwords Management, SEO & PPC Management + Call Tracking Services

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