anglinn

Hi,

I read an article on DNJournal.com about a proposed (.bank) extension for banks and financial institutions. I was wondering what you thought about such a proposal?

Since it isn't an established extension, I was able to create and register some customized domains at www.dotworlds.net using (.bank). The names are as follows:

safe.bank
secure.bank
phone.bank
mobile.bank
certified.bank

I am looking into creating some type of domain presence using the above domains once my work schedule changes in the next few weeks.

Antonio

cl0n3x

Honestly, I think they will be as valuable as .info and .name. Due to the limitations of what you can register as a decent domain name (like food.bank would seriously not work), I would say you could get maybe $1k max for all of em at most IMO. Don't take my word for it though seeing as I am not an expert. Also, it is a dotsworld extension, so you need they're software to view the site.

Alex

I don't think they will be open to anybody.
It will be done in order to prevent bank fraud, so only established banks will be able to use it, and it will be like a seal of protection.

It will not affect in any way the domain industry.

Alex

GreenGambler

As long as they make it so that only banks or other financial institutions can register a .bank then I guess it's ok. Otherwise I hate it.. More extensions means lower value for all of my DNs IMO.

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Spade

Honestly.. another needless and senseless TLD... Why is it neccessary for banks to have their own TLD? Where do the TLDs stop?

In the future... I see..

.sanitation
.computer
.fisherman
.webdesign

I mean... seriously.. where does it end?

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christian_1983

I agree i do not think that this is a necessary extension whatsoever. I think there are far too many as it is already. Which throws a curve ball at Rick Schwartz's virtual real estate analogy b/c in the bricks and mortar world you can't just create an infinate amount of more land simply by willing it. There is a finite amount of land and that is what makes it special. Too many exts. will just create a devalued domain marketplace. Obviously .com will always be king but .travel, .name, .gov, .aero all that stuff is bull!@&t. How about .domain. Or .moneygrab.

Of course this is

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.bank

Has potential. Better than .museum. A lot of banks use 3 letter acronyms and so LLL.Bank domains could take off if it was affordable.

DotWorlds - I wouldn't have anything to do with them.

IAmAllanShore

Nothing but a "waste of time" - if there ever is a .bank created, then your domain names will be worth less than they are now.

-Allan

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bfluid

You forgot .forum .

Ty Maier

P.S. I don't like any .LLLL. .bank isn't going anywhere.

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.mobi?

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.mobi is the best of the .LLLL. But most of the big sales were hype. Such as flowers.mobi, fun.mobi, and sportsbook.mobi... they were all way over priced. Fun.mobi was the closest of those sales to actual worth. It just isn't a great tld yet.

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DASHWORLDS

We hope you do not mind us taking the opportunity to post on your forum.

We are not looking to promote our website (well, at least not today anyway) however having seen this particular thread, we'd like to let you know what has been happening to us and indeed to others that we know of with regard to unfounded and unsubstantiated libel on the Internet.

What is happening to us could easily happen to you too - and perhaps after reading this, you may want to check.

A few of the postings on this thread have links to articles (found on Search Engines such as Google) that claim dotWORLDS to be a fraud etc. These articles were, we believe written by one or more of our competitors, but as they were posted anonymously we can't prove it and there's little that can be done to bring the culprit(s) to court.
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Google and other search engines spider links and articles on the Web all day every day and can disseminate them on their website, whatever the content, without any liability to themselves (due 1st amendment/freedom of speech laws in the USA).

So what does this mean. This means that tomorrow morning someone with a grudge against (as an example let's say) a member of this Forum could tell the world that that person is a fraudster, a criminal and a murderer (and that's just for starters). Within days if not hours, articles containing this "confirmed information" would appear on Search Engines and could remain on websites like Google for the next 30 years. Anyone, be it friends, family, potential employers would have intant access to this information simply by "Googling" that person's name.

"Ah, but couldn't that person complain to Google" you say (after all, they are totally innocent - except maybe for the crime of inadvertently having an acquaintance who is possibly a complete loony). Absolutely, but Google would do nothing without a court order. Google is not responsible for the content on it's website and in this regard, Google is protected by law.

So in dotWORLDS case what can be done. Well, in theory here is one scenario. dotWORLDS cannot sue the author of the libel (as dotWORLDS can't prove who it is) and Google's Website is protected by US law. Yes, you guessed it, in theory the only people/person dotWORLDS could have a go at, at right now is The Forum (ie: the origin for the new point of distribution) and/or the person who posted - which let's face it seems more than a little unfair seeing as the "information" on dotWORLDS was collected from what most would consider as an impeccable source (Google???) - a source you feel you can trust.

In effect, it is Google that potentially opens up its users (especially those users that trust Google the most) to very expensive and very lengthy litigation without notice. Maybe it's time that Google had a health warning on their website?

Please find dotWORLDS latest press release below. Oh yes, and as well as being shown below, you can also find it on www.google.com.

Thank you for the opportunity to post


Why Does Google Publish Libel?

"At a time when Google proposes to amass ever more sensitive and personal information on Internet users worldwide, Google's lack of responsibility in actively distributing unsupported libel has given many, real cause for concern. It is the unique status of libel law in America that allows Google immunity from prosecution from anything they publish on www.google.com. And yes, that includes anything they'd like to publish about you" claims Brian Retkin Director dotWORLDS.

London, England 5/31/2007 6:24 AM GMT (TransWorldNews) AND as published on Google’s own website

By allowing defamation, libel and character assassination to be posted on their Search Engine by the unverified, the alias and the anonymous, Google undermines and threatens individuals and corporations alike” says Retkin “Alarmingly, Google operates such a policy without fear of accountability, responsibility or compensation for any unjustified degradation suffered by individuals or for the potentially huge costs incurred by businesses supplying bona fida goods and services to the economy”.

“Google’s complete lack of care in this field is certainly not reflected in their own ambition as they adapt their Search Engine results to accommodate their own sensitivities” says Retkin “In facilitating their growth globally, Google often filters offensive material when catering to new markets with tighter controls. Unfortunately for almost everyone else, or at least those without a few million dollars in the bank to fight back, should Google distribute unsubstantiated and damaging libel about you, there's little that you can do about it – at least not for a few years as that’s how long they keep their information current”.

Is this the same Google that's now begging for even more personal information about you, your family, your lifestyle and any other sensitive data you might care provide? “Well, yes it is” says Retkin “Today, Google needs you. Google needs you for their databases, for their marketing projects and for umpteen other schemes under development. On this subject at least, Google can't wait to help you out. The questions that arise are whether or not Google can be trusted to use the information responsibly and whether, on past performance, their proposals should even be considered?”

Why has this been such a worry to so many? “In our case and for some time” say Retkin, our company dotWORLDS has been trying to persuade Google to remove numerous grossly libellous articles published on their Search Engine. Google's initial response was that they had no responsibility for any content displayed on their websites and that complaints should be directed to the author. However, as these articles were written and posted anonymously (an option available to anyone with even the most basic knowledge of the Internet) there was no way of tracing the culprit(s) even though we were fairly certain it came from one or more of our competitors.”
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dotWORLDS feel that these libellous postings would probably never have been seen but for the Search Engine, as they believe that the attacks on them are all but indistinguishable from so many other unsubstantiated and obscure grudge web pages on the net. “Rather” say dotWORLDS “it is Google's web-crawl system that allows for just about anything, no matter how inaccurate, spurious, nonsensical or even illegal to be gathered unscreened, recorded, indexed and ranked, later to be disseminated at Google’s inclination to millions Internet users across the world”

There are rulings that Google can rely on in cases such as dotWORLDS and they are the same rulings that would probably govern the use of your private information should Google get hold of it. For example:


1) Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (USA), 1996....…This Act specifically states that "no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker." That legalese means that, unlike print and broadcast companies, online service providers cannot be sued for disseminating defamatory attacks on citizens posted by others.

2) Excerpt from BBC report from November 2006 entitled "Bloggers and US internet providers cannot be liable for posting defamatory comments written by third parties, the California Supreme Court has ruled" .......Overturning a decision by the San Francisco appeal court, the court ruled that people claiming they were defamed online could now only seek damages from the original author of the comments - and not the website which re-posted it. The court ruled that that Internet Service Providers were protected by US Federal law that said providers of chat rooms or news groups are not considered the publishers of information furnished by others. "The prospect of blanket immunity for those who intentionally redistribute defamatory statements on the Internet has disturbing implications," said Associate Justice Carol A. Corrigan.


Still, it’s not all bad news. Using legal argument, dotWORLDS estimate that they have forced Google to remove over 1500 libellous links from Google’s websites worldwide (eg: google.co.uk, google.fr etc) – with the notable exception of Google’s American website www.google.com. Even so, dotWORLDS are convinced that despite the differing libel laws, they’re moving closer to fulfilling even that challenge. More recently dotWORLDS claim they discovered that Google had begun re-publishing libel in the UK, that under threat of court action from dotWORLDS, Google had agreed to withdraw. “We believe that Google have now committed a serious offence under English law” say dotWORLDS

Search for dotWORLDS on Google's UK website (www.google.co.uk) and dotWORLDS claim you won’t find much of the libel remaining. DotWORLDS say it was a very different story not so long ago although much has been achieved since then. What you will find instead are a number of legal notices at the bottom of the search pages to the effect "In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 3 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org".

Whilst this is a victory for dotWORLDS, it is by no means a total victory. Make exactly the same dotWORLDS search on Google's USA website (www.google.com) and included on the information displayed you will see the libel that Google has deleted on its other websites. Even more disappointing for dotWORLDS is that there is little or no mention of the Google/dotWORLDS dispute “Where is the balance?” says Retkin “We haven’t seen dotWORLDS legal requests to Google, nor any of Google’s deletions notices that have been posted on Google’s other websites. We haven’t even seen the hyperlinks to information on the deletions dotWORLDS forced Google to make. This alone should be of great concern to anyone relying on Google’s information as truth (although why shouldn’t they). In the case of dotWORLDS, not only is Google potentially misinforming their American users but they are also putting them at risk of immediate legal action should they repeat the libel publicly. In a lengthy and expensive hearing, the plea ‘I saw it on Google’ is not a defense. It is only Google that has protection”.

Whether or not Google wish to remove libellous content on their USA website, having already made a judgement call to delete it in the UK, should the same information on the Google/dotWORLDS dispute be displayed on Google USA. “Yes” say dotWORLDS “by refusing to publish crucial information on their own home ground in the same way, Google's claim that they are not the arbiter of the Internet becomes spurious. Have Google intentionally censured their own content and if so, what is the reason? Coming directly from Google office, this information on the dispute should be the first thing displayed. However, on Google’s USA, website the information it doesn’t even seem to exist - at least not where it’s supposed to“.

Google for us was about relevancy, accuracy and quality, say dotWORLDS “but out of approximately 8 billion results currently available, suddenly somehow more than 1 billion are related to Google. Can there really be 1 billion interesting, relevant and/or different things to say about them? Perhaps the quest is now for quantity whatever the cost? Perhaps Google believe that the Search Engine with the most web pages can triumph over all others. Perhaps this has become a race to an indeterminate finish line. If so, perhaps this is the answer to the question: Why does Google publish libel? Perhaps it’s just because Google can“.



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How about

.med
.dr or doc?
.health
.trip
.movie
.car
.travel
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.sex


etc etc etc


I dont think it will ever end because theres too much money to be made and lost if ext's like these dont come into play eventually. I predict this isnt too far fetched and we will likely see similar types come alive in the future.

DASHWORLDS

.sanitation - I like it

creature

You will have to own a bank or a finance institution to buy an icann .bank so they will never take off and never threaten the .com imo. I think dot bank is a waste of time. It will only lower the users guard when an email appears seemingly from a .bank address.

cache

so, is dotworlds.net scam or not?

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DASHWORLDS

dotWORLDS is a perfectly legitimate company that operates totally legally and within the guidelines set by the FTC (and other such agencies).

DotWORLDS offers an almost unlimited variety of brand new domain names and email addresses completely free to all members and users worldwide. DotWORLDS also provides free forwarding, free hosting, free web-builders and free backup space - with more to come (eg free multi-video conference centre currently under development).

dotWORLDS can be used for community-building, for creating relationships and a number of other ends. It can be used by professionals, individuals and organizations. It can be fun, serious or anywhere in between. dotWORLDS may not work in exactly the same way as other .com or .net sites do, but it does indeed work. It is just a small step for the Internet public to access greater choice and flexibility. A tiny change in attitude among end-users and domain owners may be required, but this is nothing unheard of. This is simply uniting domain names with enhanced content and relevancy, using dotWORLDS plug-in as a bridge between these concepts. Who has not downloaded Acrobat Reader software in order to be able to read something of interest written in .pdf format? Why not a dotWORLDS plug-in, when there is interesting content on a dotWORLDS domain? We understand that not everyone may be prepared yet to take this step, but many are, and have already done so.

Our own members (from well over 90 countries around the world) are creating exclusive areas on their .com websites that are only accessible using dotWORLDS plug-in. Many are duplicating their websites (eg under .com and .usa domains). This clearly shows that there is inherent value here, and there is an opportunity here too. However, we accept that our products and services must move forward, must develop and become easier to use and implement. We are a young company that intends to be around for a very long time, and step by step we are growing and improving.
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So, there is no catch. Just a different way of doing things. There is, though, lot of sense. If this type of venture were easy to implement, it would have been implemented a long time ago. It wasn't. It was difficult, and required hard work to break through the limitations

Here is a brief overview of dotWORLDS domains and emails (by no means complete). Further information on the www.dotworlds.net Home, About Us and FAQ pages
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1) Domains

Limited only by your imagination you can create almost domain name you like. To see domains like www.manchester.united or www.love.june or www.paris.chic or perhaps even www.groovy.baby, you will need upgrade you browser (plugin available free on www.dotworlds.net ).

2) Email

Real spam-free email (No plugin required for the email). Users can send to each other and also to the outside (ie the .coms and the .nets etc), but the outside world of spam cannot reach in – even if they know the exact address to send to. This is a safe alternative for kids where harry@hates.homework can take time off to email sara@incredibly.gorgeous.

Thanks again for permitting our post

PS……oh yes……..…for some, despite the infinite possibilities and opportunities offered by the Internet, there will only ever be one way of doing things (ie it’s the .com and nothing else). Well frankly, I must tell you that the Internet is not a condom and one size does not fit all……….although I have to say that in my case I am really, really…….(continued on Namepros thread “interesting, unbelievable and amazing facts”)…………….anyway, as I was saying………………..Hmmmm…….I hope my boss does not read this bit or I will get fired……………

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.bank, .sucks

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.bank = money flowing in just from domainers

DASHWORLDS

dotWORLDS domains (and emails, data storage, hosting etc) are all free - although having said that, some time ago one of our members registered "sex.usa" and put it on ebay for $750. We don't believe anything ever happened (although someone still holds on to it).

With around 100 million domain names out there, how many addresses can/do people really recall - maybe www.yahoo.com and 5 others. At the moment, the majority are using dotWORLDS for fun. For friends, family etc etc. It's all about memorability and personalization. As an example of interests, our members and users in China (who we have to say are unbelievably polite) have registered and continue to register many thousands of numbered domains. Whilst several have a decent grasp of English, perhaps numbers are easier to visualise than our own alphabet - and of course there is always the "luck" element.
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The vast majority of domain names are instantly forgotten, never mind seen. If you can remember 100,000 domain names then you only have reference to 0.1% of the market (or are missing 99.9% of it). Still, would you forget www.kick.ass or www.888.888?

Thanks again for the opportunity to post

nrmillions

DotWorlds isn't a scam because it is free.