YES.RU third level domains.

ugnali · 04-23-2004, 12:15 PM

i signed a deal with one of the top Russian registrars to register third level yes.ru domain names for Russians. They came to me with this deal about 6 months ago, but i already signed a deal with the Russian teeny girl magazine thats also called YES! to rent them the domain. It took me six months to change the contract with them. But its great now, they get to keep there site yes.ru and i can register the third level domains. The registrar will be paying me about 3 bucks a name. The price for registration will be 5 bucks a name and thats not bad compared to the second level domain registration in Russia.
.RU is about 24$
.SU is about 120$
All the rest of the third level domains in .COM.RU and .NET.RU are all taken already and with the Russian internet going deeper into Russia they will need domain names for businesses in these cities and regions.
The registrar also said that they will be doing a big PR deal with a few large magazines regarding this new registration.
And they already got about 200 orders for 3 level domains in this zone and they havent even started to sell them online yet.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/28107-yes-ru-third-level-domains.html
Any remarks?

Jeff · 04-23-2004, 12:52 PM

So you will promote and sell *****.YES.RU sub-domains?
For each sale, you get approx. $3.00/per (sub) domain?
How did they already get orders for 200 of these, and will they be supporting you with you being able to offer value-added hosting/design/development with the folks who will eventually buy 'em?
Hope I'm understanding it all correctly, not that familiar with the ".RU".

Thanks.

csmaster2005 · 04-23-2004, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CoolHost.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=28107
So you will promote and sell *****.YES.RU sub-domains?
For each sale, you get approx. $3.00/per (sub) domain?
How did they already get orders for 200 of these, and will they be supporting you with you being able to offer value-added hosting/design/development with the folks who will eventually buy 'em?
Hope I'm understanding it all correctly, not that familiar with the ".RU".
Thanks.

yea, please re-explain, I too was confused

ugnali · 04-23-2004, 01:45 PM

1) they will be the registrar of these domains
2) i will get 3 dollars a year for each registered domain and 30% of hosting profits for them.
3) i dont know about the orders or where they got them

I think its a good deal.

csmaster2005 · 04-23-2004, 01:55 PM

but why are you even involved... thats whats confusing us.
Basically, why do they need to pay you $3 a domain, is it because you're providing them something? This is still confusing.
I think you should restate everything you said in your first post

Jeff · 04-23-2004, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ugnali
I think its a good deal.

Not bad!
How are you going to advertise/promote the service, Ugnali?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=28107

rb · 04-23-2004, 03:31 PM

Quote:

but why are you even involved... thats whats confusing us

I think he's involved because he owns the domain yes.ru

velton · 04-23-2004, 03:39 PM

does the .ru domain costing ? i mean domain.ru if yes, how much will its cost ?

ugnali · 04-23-2004, 05:00 PM

yep, i own yes.ru

the promotion will be done by the registrar AND i will do what i can.

d0mainguru · 04-24-2004, 12:09 AM

o Great deal.

but $8.00 for a sub domain is a rip off, and i would list in bold letters that it is not a real domain.

ugnali · 04-24-2004, 02:53 AM

ITS ONLY 6$
AND A REGULAR SECOND LEVEL .RU COSTS 24$

Jeff · 04-24-2004, 07:25 AM

What is "Yes" in Russian, by the way ... just thought of that. I mean there might be a translation mismatch here on second thought ... versus others like "WEB.RU" and "COM.RU" / "NET.RU" which all seem more universal meaning/usability.

ugnali · 04-24-2004, 07:38 AM

Yes is an English word that is known by almost every Russian.
Its a slang word here that is used instead of lets say like "YAHOO" or "OH YEAH". And it also means YES the same as in English. There is also a Russian YES---"DA". and they also sell third level domains for 7 years already.

www.da.ru

They have over 250.000 domains registered at 3 bucks a year or you can get one free if you purchase 36$ a year hosting for 6MB or 72$ a year for 60MB.
Thats good dough!

Jeff · 04-24-2004, 07:45 AM

Cool, thanks for the detailed insight!

The succees of the project will depend on how well it's promoted, IMHO ... starting out with "free" offerings may be a good choice, as well.
Da?
Link: http://www.cool.ru

All the best!

csmaster2005 · 04-24-2004, 08:32 AM

you own cool.ru ?

Jeff · 04-24-2004, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by csmaster2005
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=28107
you own cool.ru ?

Nooo ... I was simply pointing it out as another example, unsure if "Cool" is generally accepted in Russina as our "cool" (meaning) here. I don't own any .RU domains.

csmaster2005 · 04-24-2004, 08:58 AM

lol
You should register cool.tld for all available types

Anthony · 04-24-2004, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ugnali
yep, i own yes.ru

the promotion will be done by the registrar AND i will do what i can.

Why didn't they just offer you a price for the domain yes.ru? It would certainly cost them less, right?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=28107

Anyway, how do you plan on getting people to pay for subdomain domain names?

ugnali · 04-24-2004, 03:28 PM

and i cant sell even if i wanted to, im under contract with the teen Russian magazine YES! for the rent of yes.ru.

I was offered up to 15000$ by the magazine for the purchase, but i made a better deal with them.

1) they paid me 5000$ for the first 5 years.
2) they "as stated in the contract" have to do a spread of the project YES.RU in every magazine of YES! that comes out monthly.
and were talking about 180.000 copies of the glossy mag. Each copy has about 7-9 readers (because its expensive by Russian standards --people share).
3) they have to have banners on mail.ru and 2 other most famous Russian search engines (YANDEX and RAMBLER) for 2 weeks every 2 months.
4) they have 8 commercials that come out on Russian MTV every week advertising the magazine and the site YES.RU.

And this is the best part----

From august of this year (exactly one year after we signed the contract)-- i get 50% of ad space on every YES.RU site page for free for the next 4 years. How about that? It wasnt easy getting this, it took me over 4 months of talks, but it was worth it.
And there also doing a free mail service on YES.RU from september of this year, its in experimental mode now but i got my mail working there already: yes@yes.ru (sounds nice).

And this is a big publishing house. They publish in Russian:

Cosmopolitian
Menshealth
Harpers Bazaar
YES!
FHM
Good Housekeeping
The Moscow Times
Seasons
e.t.c.......

P.S. this publishing house (its called IMEDIA --- www.imedia.ru) also owns the domain name "business.ru"

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=28107

Concerning the subdomains, i think they have a future, the price is 3 times less then the second level domains and since the internet in Russia is slowly going to other regions you will get about another 20-35 million users in the next 5 years. Also all the great domains are already taken here. I myself got about about 250 of them.

csmaster2005 · 04-24-2004, 04:31 PM

wow, they do seem big

04-23-2004, 12:15 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
ugnali UGNALI Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Israel and Russia Posts: 146	YES.RU third level domains. i signed a deal with one of the top Russian registrars to register third level yes.ru domain names for Russians. They came to me with this deal about 6 months ago, but i already signed a deal with the Russian teeny girl magazine thats also called YES! to rent them the domain. It took me six months to change the contract with them. But its great now, they get to keep there site yes.ru and i can register the third level domains. The registrar will be paying me about 3 bucks a name. The price for registration will be 5 bucks a name and thats not bad compared to the second level domain registration in Russia. .RU is about 24$ .SU is about 120$ All the rest of the third level domains in .COM.RU and .NET.RU are all taken already and with the Russian internet going deeper into Russia they will need domain names for businesses in these cities and regions. The registrar also said that they will be doing a big PR deal with a few large magazines regarding this new registration. And they already got about 200 orders for 3 level domains in this zone and they havent even started to sell them online yet. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/28107-yes-ru-third-level-domains.html Any remarks? Last edited by ugnali; 04-23-2004 at 12:19 PM.

04-23-2004, 12:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,508	So you will promote and sell ****.YES.RU sub*-domains? For each sale, you get approx. $3.00/per (sub) domain? How did they already get orders for 200 of these, and will they be supporting you with you being able to offer value-added hosting/design/development with the folks who will eventually buy 'em? Hope I'm understanding it all correctly, not that familiar with the ".RU". Thanks. __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

04-23-2004, 01:45 PM	THREAD STARTER #4 (permalink)
ugnali UGNALI Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Israel and Russia Posts: 146	THIS IS THE DEAL 1) they will be the registrar of these domains 2) i will get 3 dollars a year for each registered domain and 30% of hosting profits for them. 3) i dont know about the orders or where they got them I think its a good deal.

04-23-2004, 03:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
velton NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: local host Posts: 70	does the .ru domain costing ? i mean domain.ru if yes, how much will its cost ? __________________ drop me a line velton@gmail.com www.envygate.co.uk

04-23-2004, 05:00 PM	THREAD STARTER #9 (permalink)
ugnali UGNALI Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Israel and Russia Posts: 146	.RU COSTS ABOUT 24$ TO REGISTER yep, i own yes.ru the promotion will be done by the registrar AND i will do what i can. Last edited by ugnali; 04-24-2004 at 02:53 AM.

YES.RU third level domains.

THIS IS THE DEAL

.RU COSTS ABOUT 24$ TO REGISTER

ITS NOT 8$

YES in Russian is the same thing and also something like slang.

Re: .RU COSTS ABOUT 24$ TO REGISTER

IM NOT SELLING YES.RU

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04-23-2004, 01:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
csmaster2005 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,985	but why are you even involved... thats whats confusing us. Basically, why do they need to pay you $3 a domain, is it because you're providing them something? This is still confusing. I think you should restate everything you said in your first post

04-24-2004, 12:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
d0mainguru NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 155	o Great deal. but $8.00 for a sub domain is a rip off, and i would list in bold letters that it is not a real domain. __________________ Htp://dotitcheap.com - $7.79 Accept Paypal Cnobin Reseller $6.59 accounts up for grab (no 1k preypayment)

04-24-2004, 02:53 AM	THREAD STARTER #11 (permalink)
ugnali UGNALI Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Israel and Russia Posts: 146	ITS NOT 8$ ITS ONLY 6$ AND A REGULAR SECOND LEVEL .RU COSTS 24$

04-24-2004, 07:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,508	What is "Yes" in Russian, by the way ... just thought of that. I mean there might be a translation mismatch here on second thought ... versus others like "WEB.RU" and "COM.RU" / "NET.RU" which all seem more universal meaning/usability. __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

04-24-2004, 07:38 AM	THREAD STARTER #13 (permalink)
ugnali UGNALI Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Israel and Russia Posts: 146	YES in Russian is the same thing and also something like slang. Yes is an English word that is known by almost every Russian. Its a slang word here that is used instead of lets say like "YAHOO" or "OH YEAH". And it also means YES the same as in English. There is also a Russian YES---"DA". and they also sell third level domains for 7 years already. www.da.ru They have over 250.000 domains registered at 3 bucks a year or you can get one free if you purchase 36$ a year hosting for 6MB or 72$ a year for 60MB. Thats good dough!

04-24-2004, 07:45 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,508	Cool, thanks for the detailed insight! The succees of the project will depend on how well it's promoted, IMHO ... starting out with "free" offerings may be a good choice, as well. Da? Link: http://www.cool.ru All the best! __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

04-24-2004, 08:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
csmaster2005 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,985	you own cool.ru ?

04-24-2004, 08:58 AM	#17 (permalink)
csmaster2005 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,985	lol You should register cool.tld for all available types

04-24-2004, 03:28 PM	THREAD STARTER #19 (permalink)
ugnali UGNALI Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Israel and Russia Posts: 146	IM NOT SELLING YES.RU and i cant sell even if i wanted to, im under contract with the teen Russian magazine YES! for the rent of yes.ru. I was offered up to 15000$ by the magazine for the purchase, but i made a better deal with them. 1) they paid me 5000$ for the first 5 years. 2) they "as stated in the contract" have to do a spread of the project YES.RU in every magazine of YES! that comes out monthly. and were talking about 180.000 copies of the glossy mag. Each copy has about 7-9 readers (because its expensive by Russian standards --people share). 3) they have to have banners on mail.ru and 2 other most famous Russian search engines (YANDEX and RAMBLER) for 2 weeks every 2 months. 4) they have 8 commercials that come out on Russian MTV every week advertising the magazine and the site YES.RU. And this is the best part---- From august of this year (exactly one year after we signed the contract)-- i get 50% of ad space on every YES.RU site page for free for the next 4 years. How about that? It wasnt easy getting this, it took me over 4 months of talks, but it was worth it. And there also doing a free mail service on YES.RU from september of this year, its in experimental mode now but i got my mail working there already: yes@yes.ru (sounds nice). And this is a big publishing house. They publish in Russian: Cosmopolitian Menshealth Harpers Bazaar YES! FHM Good Housekeeping The Moscow Times Seasons e.t.c....... P.S. this publishing house (its called IMEDIA --- www.imedia.ru) also owns the domain name "business.ru" ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=28107 Concerning the subdomains, i think they have a future, the price is 3 times less then the second level domains and since the internet in Russia is slowly going to other regions you will get about another 20-35 million users in the next 5 years. Also all the great domains are already taken here. I myself got about about 250 of them. Last edited by ugnali; 04-24-2004 at 03:35 PM.

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04-24-2004, 04:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
csmaster2005 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,985	wow, they do seem big