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I'm doing an article about the value of any state name in .com .net and .us

So this post is not about what I own, but I thought some of you might want to estimate what the value of any true state name in the three main TLD's would be

I guess there would be a few levels, smal states, medium states, and large states

I'd like to use California as an example

What would California.com be worth and what would you think the .net and .us would be worth

Also, what would you compare that value to the value of the state abbreviation for California, that's

CA.com

What would that be worth as well as the same abbreviation in the .net and .us TLD's

My story is about something that will be major news next week in the Domain Name industry

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Some major state domain names are being released by one owner, so the article is about what these names are worth

I know this thread is usually about what you own, but I thought some of you might like trying to really put a value on some major domain names

Many of you will be amazed at how many state domain names and abbreviations are going to be hitting the market next week

So your estimates might be used in the article

Thanks

Jeff

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Please continue your discussion.
Thanks.

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RJ

Any state name 100k+

Any two letter state abbreviation 80k+

Three letter state (or proper grammatical) abbreviation 10k+

Those are the minimums I would expect to see sales prices for.

Of course states like California with abbreviations like Cal.Com and CA.Com would likely be several times that amount.

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so the 100K would be a whole sale number in the .com tld right?

would you say any state name at retail should be a 1M dom in the .com realm?

that would make 100K a good reseller value

what about the .net and .us values?

it would seem that such use of a .us is perfect for a state name and abbrev.

thanks

RJ

There are not a lot of publicized sales of these types of names, so we can only speculate on the types of buyers these names would attract.
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The numbers I mentioned are the minimum expectations that these domains would sell for. I say minimum because at those prices there would be reseller interest, so yes you can consider those to be wholesale prices if you would.

For retail, the sky's the limit but of course it always depends on who's buying and for what reason. It's easy to say that a name is a "million dollar name", but in reality, out of tens of millions of domains in existance- those that have sold for $1 Mi+ you could count on one hand. Pricing a domain at $1M could result in it sitting on the shelf forever waiting for "the right buyer"

NewZealand.Com recently sold for around $500,000k to the New Zealand travel bureau. That is a good frame of reference of what kind of prices these names can fetch.

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Lord

actually, I would agree with RJ that its 100K+, but depending on the state size and economy, it could well go over 1million +
and the 2 letter domain of it, I would actually say is more valuable than the 3 real word, by atleast 100k.

247newsnet

well any state name in the .com was gone long ago as was the abbrev.

the interesting thing is that in the natural TLD for a state name or abbrev the abbreviations were not allowed (.us)

all the states had their names registered in the .US tld so no one will ever be able to use a true state name or abbrev in the .us tld

the company that has almost every 1 state abbrev and state name in the .US also owns a bunch of state names and abbrev in other tld's

but they've just launched [spamvertisement] to start leasing their .us portfolio

so my story will include some comments on what people think .com state names are worth and what they're asking for leases on their own .us names

Jeff

Agree with RJ's 's and logic, insofar as the .COM's.
As far as placing a simple "1" in front of the respective State abbreviations (or entire State names), as you've highlighted now a few times this evening throughout your posts (ie., "Advertisements"), I would appraise those (.US's) at Reg. fee - $42.50/each/any, IMHO.
Good Luck with your venture.

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247newsnet

So you think 1NewJersey.com is worth a reg fee?

Then why are people willing to pay for leasing the names?

They've done a few deals just today.

So are those people clueless, or are you wrong?

Jeff

"So you think 1NewJersey.com is worth a reg fee?" Correct.

"Then why are people willing to pay for leasing the names?" I have no idea why.

"They've done a few deals just today." Am happy for them.

"So are those people clueless, or are you wrong?" Correct, and I'm not wrong, IMHO.

Best of Luck.

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Duke

I would disagree with CoolHost on only one point. I don't think 1NewJersey.us is even worth a reg fee. Mixing numbers and letters with a new extension gives you three strikes and you're out before you even get started. I don't believe that ANYONE would ever pay to lease that name, nor do I believe that any deals have been done on this or any other day....and if through some incredible quirk of fate someone did make such a deal then yes they are indeed CLUELESS. (Kind of like CEO-AIS who keeps re-registering under different ID's with the belief he is faking someone out).

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247newsnet

For you to say you see no value in a 1 State Domain Name, yet people are starting to lease them for eMail Portals is an interesting paradox.

You see no value in the names, yet people are emailing the company they want free accounts and they're already selling email accounts, and they're already getting operators.

So if it has no value, then why do many people like it?

Are you wrong?

Let's say you want to operate an email portal in your state, you can't register the state abbreviation or the state name, so what name are you going to register to operate a free email portal?

All the i and e domains are gone, the 1 domains are gone.

Were those people wrong in registering those domains in the .US tld?

Do you think no state name is good in the .US tld?

Or do you think some other play on the state name is better?

When these names are doing business and have strong alexa ratings and many users, will you admit you were wrong?

Or will you still say no 1 state whatever has any value, even when people are using such names and the domains are making money?

This is actually one of the first major projects for the whole .US tld that anyone has launched.

It involves almost 100 web sites.

I know you are just stating an opinion, but so far your slamming me for advertising posts, when the truth is I'm just gathering info for an article I'm doing.

DNN already has an article on the release, my site 24 7 will do a more in depth story quoting some people as to what they think, since you don't like the names, I'm interested in seeing you view on it.

Do you just don't like email portals?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=2809

Do you just hate .us domains?

Do you just don't like 1 domains?

Do you own any .us domains?

Do you run any email portals?

Do you think email portals are all garbage and not worth developing?

When you see tech sections reporting on the launch of these sites next week, will you admit you were wrong?

Your opinion seems awful biased.

I tried to get some info for an article without spilling the beans on the story, you moved the original post, you accuse me of advertising, etc.

It seems it's okay for you to say your opinion, but you don't want anyone to post threads about anything you don't like.

Anyway, here's the first article on the net about it, it's from DNN, it's not my site, but it is an AIS site

Now, when Fox runs a story about what their parent company is doing, it's news

Some don't like AIS news sites writing about AIS news, oh well, that's just the way it is

What site had the paypal story last week with images from the scam site that was very well designed?

DNN

Anyway, here's the official story on this whole thing

[spamvertisement]

Is it advertising?
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No

I started some threads for info about state domain name values

And all you've done is harassed me, you moved the threads and you keep saying NO VALUE

Well my opinion is you're wrong

Good day

Jeff

Thank you for sharing your opinions with the "community".
Goodnight.

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247newsnet

Well duke you're wrong, and if you want to know who I am, read my site, I have audio interviews of me and the CEO of AIS

Shows how little you know :-)

AIS sold a major .net last month, for more than the total sales for months of afternic, so I guess they don't know anything huh?

I'll make sure I post every article from the main stream press next week about this story

Or do you think when AIS hits their 20K media contact list no one will follow up on it?

They launched a new site last week for their newest anti ebay book, the author got swamped with press requests for radio and major media interviews

Duke

That's correct. I think no one will follow up on it......wait a minute, I might be wrong there. I think Imbeciles Illustrated might just find your story of interest. Good luck!

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I'll make sure I post links to the articles here every time the story appears on the net

So do you dislike the .us tld? Your site has a bunch of low value two word .us domains at it

So you think two word .us names are worth selling but the key root words in the whole .us tld (state names) are not worth registering with a 1 or an i or an e?

Such hostility.

I'm sure some tech editors will see merit in reporting on the release of almost 100 state domains in the .US tld

In my opinion, any state domain name in the .US tld is a good bet to develope for email in that state, and since no one can use the actual domain name then 1, i or e are the most logical registrations
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Or do you think all state name registrations in the .US are worthless

If not, what state names would you develop for a free email portal in let's say FLORIDA

You're in Tampa right?

So a client comes to you and say yo duke get me a good Florida state domain name in the .us tld, I want to market it for free email in Florida

What will you suggest for them to do?

1. Not use a 1, i or e with the state name

2. Use the state name with some other prefix

3. Add a second word to the state name

4. Suggest they don't use .us for anything

5. Tell them no one wants free email

I'm real interested in your logic on this

Two of you think any state name with a 1 sucks

Do state names with i's or e's suck too?

Duke

Yes, very much so. But everyone here (except yourself) already knows this. Sorry, CEO-AIS, you'll have to find someone else to play with...I don't have any more time for your nonsense.

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247newsnet

Get a clue duke, you can hear audio of me interviewing the person you claim I am on my site.

Don't you hate being wrong?

Jeff

That's enough now, 247newsnet.
It's obvious you're a very busy individual ... one who has already said "Good Day" to me, Duke, and the community.
Thank you for sharing your comments, and be well.
See you.

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drifta

not close to the 10 million you wanted for bill.com

247newsnet

Get the facts straight

1. I did an article about Bill.com, it's not my name and I dont' work for [link removed] the company with the listing. Your post is a lie and meant to DECEIVE.

Here's the article

[link removed]

I interviewed the CEO of AIS, someone that is a major player in Domain Name. Unlike the majority of people that go to these reseller forums only dreaming of ever doing a large Domain Name deal, that person owns very valuable domain names and his brokerage companies for Domain Names sell expensive Domains all the time.

That sold a .net last month for more money than the total sales of Afternic for several months.

Now, Bill.com is a premium domain name for a potential on-line billing site by a major bank.

If you think the name has little value then you're crazy.

If you think I'm the CEO of AIS you're crazy.

I could care less really about the whole domain name game, but we are starting to cover stories about Domains, since we have a great source involved in the biz, that being AIS, who everyone knows is the parent company that runs 24 7 and over 200 content web sites, software companies, investment companies, domain name brokerages, publishing companies for books, movies and music.

Anyway, Bill.com has an appraised value of 2 Million wholesale, 5 M lo retail and 10 M hi retail.

Yet, people LIKE YOU just want to harp on 10M haha

If you put a handful of major bank CEO's in a room and told them to make sealed bids for Bill.com so they can run an on-line portal with it, I'm sure the bids would be some of the largest amounts ever paid for any domain name.

Would it be 10M? Who knows, an expert in the domain name industry says Bill.com is one of maybe 30 or so key words in the .com realm that could set new records if they were ever offered.

Others include news.com and autos.com as well as travel.com etc.
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Years ago some large sales were made for keywords, some were way under what they would bring today, others were way over what they would bring today.

You want to laugh? Look at your domain names, I laugh all the time when I see people saying anything about AIS and their Domain Brokerages and their various domain plays.

Why?

I look at what those people own, I know what AIS owns.

I see people with for the most part domains with very little potential commercial use criticizing a company either out of jealousy or stupidity, that has some major domains in their own portfolio as well as some major listings.

AIS has Bill.com for sale at their brokerage and you want to laugh?

So what if they say it has a value range from 2M to 10M.

Last month they sold a .net for more than Afternic has had for GROSS SALES for months.

I'd believe AIS before I would someone touting holymoley.com as one of their major names.

But then again one of the admins on this site thinks any name with a 1 in front has no value.

That is one of the funniest statements I have ever seen, many people use 1 domains, they work, and many people pay decent amounts to acquire 1 domain names when the root word is a key word. Yet you see people here acting as experts saying they have no value.

That's a false statement.

I KNOW THEY HAVE VALUE.

I've seen the sold and I know they get used all the time.

Anyway, get your facts straight.

I only wrote an article about Bill.com

So top LYING

drifta

ok

i believe you

i just interviewed george bush
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TITLE: Veiws on domain hijacking

mehave you heard of overprising?
GB Yes
me What are your views on it?
GB i believe overpricing to be an act of terrorism and nothing less
mewhys that?
GB becuase people laugh so hard at the overpricer and cant stop
..... more here: http://www.CEOAISandhismultiidentity...domainnames.BS
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now theres a 10 million dollar domain

QUICK GO REGISTER IT!!!!

247newsnet

how about this, when mcveigh was about to be executed THE ONLY MEDIA PERSON to get an EXCLUSIVE interview with his attorney was ME

He would only make press statments enmasse

I gave his attorney INSIDE INFO about the OK City Bombing INVESTIGATION that forced the FBI to FIND thousands of documents
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McVeigh's lawyer is just one of many famous people I've interviewed over the years.

Now why do the admins here let you LIE about me being the ceo of ais

Admins tell dotL**er to shut up

I'm not the ceo of ais and I do major interviews ALL THE TIME

247newsnet

ADMINS why do you allow DotL**er to attack me and AIS

DO YOU JOB and tell him to SHUT UP

Or are you as biased as they are?

Jeff

I believe I said "Reg. fee - $42.50", IMHO. I don't think $0.00, as you have stated, as potentially, I guess, they could be used within the S/E's for ranking purposes. That would be for the .COM's, of course ... not the .US's, which would be nearer to your $0.00, IMHO. This is true.
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Best of Luck.

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