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| Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PetInsurance.tv
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I would say that, he is not entitled to anything,as he didn't respond to any emails,who goes 2 months without checking emails?, nobody i know.I find that very strange,didn't check them or chose to ignore them?. He has lost the case and to my mind that is that, i think had he answered the emails,if as you say he isn't interested in the domains he would have got his reg fee back and costs maybe not $200, but enough to break even. IMHO they should let it go and learn from it, Thanks
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![]() | I've not heard of single side arbitration. What authority does ardforum.com have over domain names? Now if it was http://www.icann.org/udrp/udrp-policy-24oct99.htm That would be a different story. |
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| NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2006
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ADR Forum is the authority appointed by ICANN to arbitrate domain disputes. This is not something ICANN does themselves. Your client elected arbitration when regging or buying the name and agreed to keep the admin contact information accurate and respond to emails sent there. Your client should immediately facilitate turning over the domain names. This was not one-sided arbitration. Both parties probably received notice pursuant to the domain registration contract. Your client's failure to respond was itself a response. Your client in effect agreed to a default judgement in accordance with the domain registration agreement. Your client would normally be entitled to reasonable expenses incurred and I doubt that the TM owner would have objected to that. Asking for $200 is not reasonable. Reasonable means "actual" in most cases. Your client has almost no expenses in unlocking the domain or otherwise authorizing the transfer. If your client had cooperated in the first place and responded to the emails so that the TM owner did not have to go to arbitrartion, I suspect the TM owner would have been agreeable to a reasonable fee, perhaps $50 to cover the half hour or less that we all know it would take. This is why we should all do due diligence before buying or regging a name.
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Also, the client has got many domains, these two were not on their priority list and they registered domains from some other email id and never checked it again after registering domains. | ||||
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| Play up Pompey! Join Date: Mar 2006
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | This is a fairly clear cut case. 1) enterpriserentals is a TM that was infringed on 2) your client didn't defend themselves 3) the case has already been decided. You had a slim chance of getting $200 before the case, but now you have none. Hence, he'll need to hand over the domain |
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complainant fulfilled all the necessary obligations with the UDRP provider. When we register domain names with our preferred registrar, we agree to one of its provisions: http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/legal_...ageid=REG%5FSA
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action for such. What happened afterwards is unfortunate. Your client can still go to Court. But...good luck. It sucks. But that's life sometimes.
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Nice find You are really Electrifying Guy I am not much interested in the domain, neither the client is. But its interesting to see how such cases proceed. | ||||
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| NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Esse quam videri
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Some good responses above, one kinda silly ![]() In any event, here is the actual decision: http://domains.adrforum.com/domains/...ons/819801.htm ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=271953 Or, just read below:
That being said, for the benefit of others, if a UDRP is lost, filing with almost any appropriate jurisdiction (Details at icann.org , of course) and sending proof within the stated period will cause ICANN to delay transferring the domain until the case is decided/dismissed. -Allan
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UDRP 4(k): " k. Availability of Court Proceedings. The mandatory administrative proceeding requirements set forth in Paragraph 4 shall not prevent either you or the complainant from submitting the dispute to a court of competent jurisdiction for independent resolution before such mandatory administrative proceeding is commenced or after such proceeding is concluded. If an Administrative Panel decides that your domain name registration should be canceled or transferred, we will wait ten (10) business days (as observed in the location of our principal office) after we are informed by the applicable Provider of the Administrative Panel's decision before implementing that decision. We will then implement the decision unless we have received from you during that ten (10) business day period official documentation (such as a copy of a complaint, file-stamped by the clerk of the court) that you have commenced a lawsuit against the complainant in a jurisdiction to which the complainant has submitted under Paragraph 3(b)(xiii) of the Rules of Procedure. (In general, that jurisdiction is either the location of our principal office or of your address as shown in our Whois database. See Paragraphs 1 and 3(b)(xiii) of the Rules of Procedure for details.) If we receive such documentation within the ten (10) business day period, we will not implement the Administrative Panel's decision, and we will take no further action, until we receive (i) evidence satisfactory to us of a resolution between the parties; (ii) evidence satisfactory to us that your lawsuit has been dismissed or withdrawn; or (iii) a copy of an order from such court dismissing your lawsuit or ordering that you do not have the right to continue to use your domain name. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=271953 " -Allan
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![]() | the domain has been moved to the other party. but it was interesting to see all the things as they worked. the client wasn't interested in the domain, but i guess if he was, he could have created problems for Rent A Car. Or atleast made them spend more time, money and effort |
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=271953 Well, only if he himself was willing to spend more time + money + effort on what was, yet again, and ultimately failed expedition. -Allan
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