MinionDH

I have quite a few domains parked at Sedo and a few of those domains are optimized with the keyword "VOiP". Now according to Overture's Bid Tool this keyword averages between $3 to $5 per click, yet Sedo is only paying me 10 cents per click. I understand Google/Yahoo usually get 50% of each click, but where is the rest? Is Sedo ripping me off or am I missing something? Please help

primacomputer

Sedo has some of the lowest click values in the industry. They also shave the stats. If you have the chance to use anyone else at all do so.

MinionDH

Wow.. that completely sucks. I'm somewhat new to all this so which company should I switch to? Which company (or companies) have the highest click values?

Michelle

Must say I have always "stuck by Sedo" but this is getting more and more difficult to do day by day.

I am going to shift a few around ...

sker

Very True.

They are one of the classic example of a Rip Off Artist. But they're also the best domain trading platform currently.... its a trade off....as long you can find ways to innovate then i don't see any of moaning...

When i started trading i got shaved and skint... i tried some of the major parking services and ended up sticking with Fabulous now, even thought i hear the whispers from other domainers about other parking services that pay better PPC i am a happy folk at the moment. Probably in the future i'll try to move around some of my names to other parking services.

The reason Fabulous is paying higher PPC because they get better commission from google. Google does that because of their quality traffic. They sift through your names and they park them in appropriate category. Virtually you have no control over the parking pages.
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BTW this is my 100th post!

kev

I absolutley hate sedo. They were going to take $150 off me for selling a domain for $160 leaving me with $10. Boooo!!!

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floatingworld

try www.namedrive.com they are the rising stars. sedo is blowing it and it is time to leave. I am shifting out ~ 5 per day. bye bye sedo.

edwinfelix

SEDO does pay pretty low, but it wouldn't be that extreme.

Overture's $3 to $5 per click is for US visitors. SEDO pays me $1.5 per click for US visitors clicking "casino", but only xx cents when a european visitor does so.

fonzie_007

Sedo pays horrible for parking; however, as other noted, it is the domain marketplace of the world right now. You would be better off listing at sedo and parking elsewhere like Namedrive or Trafficz. Drop me a PM if you have questions about either.

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floatingworld

trafficz want a 100 name listing and also to 'approve' the portfolio.

fonzie_007

Yes, you have to apply and get accepted to Trafficz.

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Grrilla

Buster, the 6th grader notices that Johnny, the 1st grader, has a box of cookies in his lunchbox. "Hey, Johnny, have I got a deal for you! Hand me your cookies and I'll show you a magic trick that will double your number of cookies! OK, now close your eyes and put your hand out. Good. Here's one for you and 2 for me. Remember to keep your eyes closed and go ahead and eat yours , while I add one to the box. Wow! I can see more cookies in the box, already! So let's do some more magic. One more for you and two more for me..."

If you can live w/ negative ammortization on your investment, than rely on ppc advertising for your domain name income. You might find another schoolmate who will take 3 and give you back two, (at least, for the short term), but once you hand the box over and close your eyes, forget about receiving an equitable share.

PPC is like a short term parking lot- a place to drop off your domains, (please leave the keys in the ignition, thank you). while attending to the business of capitalizing on your investment. Even those whodo make a reasonable, honest income via ppc, (ie not the scam artists w/ clickbots but those w/ large, high quality keyword domain portfolios), could earn more income by doing their own marketing and optimization, IMHO.

That being said-

I use ppc because I have more domain names than I can ever, possibly, expect to create income producing sites for- the result of having eyes that are bigger than my stomach and the fiddling about that comes w/ indecision, (which I have far less of today, TG!). It beats the alternative- parking them on a registrar's server and handing the box over w/o receiving, even, a single cookie.

I'm going to move some names over to NP member, Badger's new site. It's nice to have the oppurtunity to hand some names off to someone I am acquainted w/, i like the idea of working w/ a smaller, start-up business- seems/feels like there is more direct contact and less chance to get lost in the shuffle and, if nothing else, it will help kickstart the project of member who has been an asset to NP. And who knows?

2knew

haha. I'm in the same boat. Too fast on the draw buying names, I guess.
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I have names at SEDO. I feel they pay very poorly regardless of keyword. As well, there are periods where my stats seem questionable. I strongly suspect I could do better parking elsewhere... except I'm not really trying to earn cash by parking. It defrays reg-fees a little bit and places them in one spot while I look at development/sale of each name.

Spending time managing parked names is time I can't spend writing code or content, so I'd have to know it was really worth my while to move a significant number of names

Anyone got "blow your socks off" success stories with names they'ved moved from SEDO to trafficz/namedrive/fabulous/where-ever

Grrilla

You nailed it right on the head for a large % of us and have posed a good question that I am interested in seeing some responses to.

MinionDH

Thanks for all the great responses. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one being scammed.

quality

I am very happy with Sedo and I doubt very much they are doing any
scamming. They are a reputable company and seem to pay on time
and are honest in counting the clicks and for some key words they pay quite
well. With names they dont pay so well on I have moved to goldkey who
are also a good company. I find the click through rate on Sedo is quite high
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as their pages are very inviting to click on the ads. The only thing I dont
like about SEDO is that they dont reveal the precise percentage they pay
from their receipts from Google....this means they can adjust this unilaterally
which is not so good. I would prefer a statement like we
pay 50% of our receipts from our partners to those that park with us to give people reassurance.

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Give me a break.... Scammed?

And the title of this thread...Is SEDO Ripping Me Off??
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=171353

You come here new and fresh, but you very first posts set a tone that is rotten and unfair. "Scammed" "Ripped Off". Why is it assumed that SEDO must be screwing you just because their program doesn't pay as much? Does the world owe you something for your parked domain? Somewhere, somebody reports that people got 2 dollars a click on their parked domains, and now you expect that too? We are all entitled to it now?

No matter what their fee or click rate, they are not "scamming" you in any logical sense of the word. If you don't like their service, don't use it. Whatever you make, it's PROFIT for you. When people toss around such heavy hitting words as "scammers" and "ripped off" in public it can often cause unfair damage.

Some of the anti-SEDO stuff lately, and then people piling on, is getting silly.

SEDO is not the best place to earn the highest amount for parking clicks. If that's your main concern, you are better off parking somewhere else.

But they are not the Domain Devil, come to take your eternal souls.

For domain sellers, SEDO provides good exposure, and a solid set of tools & services that many people find useful. AND I might add, trustworthy.

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Grrilla

Here, here!
Despite my 2 for 1 cookie analogy, (wow, I was in a P/Od mood, this morning), I do all of my ppc parking w/ Sedo and except for the ones I am moving over to Badger's new enterprise, they will remain there, as I have done well enough w/ them. I don't doubt what primacomputer has stated above- I am, relatively, comfortable w/ them but I wouldn't say that they have a halo hanging over their head. I have seen the results of some of primas tests and they are rather convincing and there are instances where the figures don't add up. How often and whether the discrepencies are intentional or not on their part is another question but , to return to my take 2 give you 1 cookie analogy, I would like to hear from anyone who, truly, believes that they are getting an even, equitable profit split w/ their ppc listings or are receiving one cookie for every cookie that their ppc partner is taking in. (after expenses)

Personally, I think it is prudent to maintain a degree of healthy paranoia regarding any company you are doing business w/, particularly when u are not privy to the details concerning how profits are being broken down and shared. Even companies that start out being good and worthy of trust can change and burn you after it is too late to realize what has gone down.
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"Ripoff"? "Scammers"? No. That is overstated and innaccurate. Sedo is too above board for that, IMHO. Discrepencies, as the result of poor design or system errors? Yes. As a result of wanting to kick their revenues up? Very possible. Not getting what the domain name registrant thinks is his fair share? Of course!

sunken

Sedo has been pretty good to me in relation to selling domains, but they do have a very low PPC, but they make up for it on the sales, so it seems to work out in a way. The problem is if you don't park them there, they charge $50 for a sale.

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Michelle

Sedo has been very good to me. Easy to use and easy payments but....Scammers, no, cheats no, increased down-time, yes reduced clicks (appears so).

I have not been able to log onto my account for about a week unless I click through my affiliate page first

Emailed sedo and nothing

But then again, I dont think the perfect place is out there but that wont stop me taking a peep

-db-

Well... I was a bit charged up. Sorry for sounding preacher-like.

But speaking of prima...

His comments about SEDO are short, negative, and often. I haven't seen his numbers like you have, but I've always been curious what all the fuss was about and I knew he had a beef. Kinda hard to ignore. Heh!

Honestly, it's been one of things that has remained a constant thorn in the side of their reputation, on this forum anyway. I wish he would just come forward with it, if it's serious enough for all of us to be concerned. Assuming efforts to handle things privately and discreetly have already failed.
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If he's going to go around constantly posting rather serious sounding blurbs, I say it's time he brings more information and facts to the table, SEDO gets a chance to answer, and we all get a chance to see it. I will bring beer and unsalted pretzels/peanuts.

Again, assuming efforts to handle things privately and discreetly have already failed.

*No offense was meant to anyone by my post. If you took offense, you can go to hell.

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primacomputer

They are. I have the proof and the FTC has a copy as well. I'm not saying this guy is being scammed in his particular case but they do, at least on occasion, “scam”.
When reduced clicks are a a result of people simply not clicking then it's just a result of their parking page not being as good as another. When the reduced clicks are a result of them not counting the clicks then it's a scam. Sedo states several times throughout their site that they “count every click”. When they fail to do this they are lying plain and simple.
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This is a valid point. I have seen no evidence that the OP has been scammed.
He did not, however, claim to have been scammed. “Ripped off” in the term he used and in fairness to him he didn't say he was being ripped off, he asked if he was. Being “ripped off” is, I guess, a more subjective term. If you bought something and then found out that it was available for 1/2 the price somewhere else would you feel “ripped off”?

Michelle

I would be very interested to see this.

movingconcierge

Here's a great saying that my father used to have in a poster and that took me a while as a kid to really get...

"Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you."

I'm not sure why I only make $3.00 a month on several hundred names at sedo...it could be that my names just suck. I did reg. some pretty stupid names in the beginning...and still do sometimes. But I have never had a great month, good month, or even a decent month at sedo.

I get the same feeling from Sedo that I do from 1and1.com...and that is a feeling of being taken advantage of in one way or another. Sometimes it is tough to quantify, but if you've been on this planet for any length of time, you know that "feeling" I'm talking about...
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Since I have several hundred of these names with the devil themselves, 1and1.com, I get a little twitch thinking about changing 200+ dns, one at a time. So I leave the names at sedo.

But, I switched out 50+ of my least performing names from sedo to namdrive and have made more in a few weeks with just those underperformers at ND than with the remainder of my pathetic portfolio at sedo over the same period of time.

The next batch I will be moving from Sedo is my .be's...let's see how they do at ND...

I ditto grrilla with the eyes to stomach miscalculation. Although, I have been able to partner with a few developers and have also built a few minisites myself, but it is totally deficient to justify the size of my portfolio...anyone watch the Incurable Collector? This is no different to me...

Grrilla

It would help me if I could better understand who "they" are and within the Sedo structure, (or any companie's structure, for that matter), where the commands to perform the dirty deed would emanate from, who would, physically, perform the deed and how it would be done. Not being familiar w/ the envirnment of a large web-based business, it would help me if I could better understand the the anatomy of a ppc scam and the mechanics/dynamics that are involved. I assume it would be initiated up top. Perhaps a department head that was getting the heat put on him to bring his department's revernue up? The head honcho himself, along w/ top staff members? From whom does the buck get passed, and whose hands catches it and, actually performs the deed? ie programs the click bot to under-count the clicks? Or would the counts get tweaked later, after the fact, by the accounting department. The accounting dept is always a good one to blame, IMHO. But seriously. What is the lay of the land? "They" is too generic and vague for me to wrap my mind around. I need to visualize it in terms of human beings making decisions, creating policy, writing memos, or giving verbal directives and performing their jobs.