Thoughts and Opinions on the .cc

Spearseven · 01-14-2006, 09:01 AM

Hey guys,

I am new to the world of domaining and really want your thoughts and opinions on the .cc tld. Please forgive me for my dissertation and rambling.
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I have inundated myself over the past several weeks reading threads from domain forums and read with extreme interest. I realize that there are alot of folks in this industry that definitely know what they are talking about. I am impressed with the majority of your opinions and thoughts on the myriad discussions brought up here. Now, I am hoping that some of you would please take the time and help me answer a question that has lingered in my frazzled, domain frazzled noggin - What is wrong with the .cc tld?

I have tried to research this tld to determine why it is not very liked. It is very hard to figure out. I realize that it is a country code, established for this little bittie Austrailian Island, its residents not huge internet fans like most of us are, and one country code tld of many. I reflect on the results of a question that I asked in a previous domain appraisal forum about a .cc dn. This is the opinion that I received:

"<domain name deleted>... of course is very hot, but that .cc kills it. However, it's still a hot enough topic/name that you might approach some <industry deleted>.. dn buyers and still get something decent for it... approach them with an economical price for a premium name but weak dot.cc"

Now, upon receiving this valuable opinion (trust me I am not mad about the opinion - I value it) but I am confused.

I have read so many threads concerning the different tld's and the the domainers order of preference and significance. As an example - Some domainers like this order - .com, .net, .info. ,org, etc. Some like .com, .info, .us, . info. I could go on with the different variations of "preference". I realize that it is diferent in everyone's case based on past experiences, the dn, etc.

I have read the original intent of these tld's : ie .net = network, .info = information, .org = charitable organizations and then I have read threads from alot of domainers that the original reasons for these tld's have basically gone by the wasteside.

So if all of this is really the case - then why couldn't the .cc become a popular tld? When I research the availability of domain names I see in a lot of cases the .cc's taken. It just seems to me that if the .cc was so "weak" the .cc's that .cc's would still be available. I look at domain auction sites and see them selling. Heck look at domain.cc. Was the country code .us originally a sought after tld? It seems to have gained in popularity and I have even read threads from domainers that they prefer .us after the .com

So, please shed your thoughts -I would really value them. I would really like to hear from folks that have had success with the .cc. Thanks in advance and I really look forward to hearing from you.

Spearseven

edwinfelix · 01-14-2006, 01:46 PM

You can check here:
http://www.google.be/search?q=site:cc

I don't really know any successful site, besides the .cc registry, which I really admire.

dawg · 01-14-2006, 01:58 PM

Their is nothing wrong with the .CC domains. It is domainers that hate it not end users. Don't let domainers determine what you want to do with your domain hobby (I learned that a long time ago) I have sold .CC before for nice prices. I still reg them also, don't forget Beauty.cc sold for 1 million dollars a few years back.

Good luck!

stscac · 01-14-2006, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by edwinfelix

You can check here:
http://www.google.be/search?q=site:cc

I don't really know any successful site, besides the .cc registry, which I really admire.

Using the wildcard "*" will get domains that end in .cc

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:*.cc
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-Steve

AmD950 · 01-14-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by edwinfelix

You can check here:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=157432
http://www.google.be/search?q=site:cc

I don't really know any successful site, besides the .cc registry, which I really admire.

I don't know either, but I know you can encounter a high ratio of spam/scam sites with cc extensions.

TUFKATH · 01-14-2006, 03:26 PM

Domainers don't like it because most end users would prefer the .com and therefore would not make as much money from the .cc as they would a higher-liked extension. That is why they concentrate on the main ones (.com, .us, .info, .net, .org, and .biz) - because they are more valued and liked than ccTLDs.

edwinfelix · 01-14-2006, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by stscac

Using the wildcard "*" will get domains that end in .cc

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:*.cc

-Steve

It's the same...

www.AmCy.org · 01-14-2006, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by dawg

Beauty.cc sold for 1 million dollars a few years back...

That beauty.cc sale was a scam. Sorry.

But I am a big fan of .CC. I am developing a number of .CC websites, from free online dating to business credit cards. For certain types of websites, .CC works very well. For example, I would prefer to develop BusinessCreditCards.cc over BusinessCreditCards.us (I own both.) I like .US a lot as well, and I'm developing sites in the .US namespace also, but sometimes I like dot CC better.
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FYI: I've had offers in the mid X,XXX range for my BalanceTransfer.cc domain name.

AmCy

Redleg · 01-14-2006, 06:05 PM

Here's the top 10 .cc sales I could find in 2005:
Austria.cc €5,000 ($6,087) jun-05 Sedo
Vegas.cc $4,500 sept-05 Sedo
Bet.cc €2,500 ($3,007) jun-05 Sedo
Profit.cc $1,288 mar-05 Afternic
Adult.cc $1,000 sept-05 Afternic
Jew.cc $1,000 des-05 Sedo
O2.cc $850 Jan-05 Sedo
Playstation.cc $600 jun-05 privat
Ringtone.cc $550.00 03/01-2005 Afternic
dna.cc $500.00 08/03-2005 Afternic
LAN.cc $500.00 30/08-2005 Afternic

http://www.domeneblogg.net/domenenav...-cctld-lister/

There are probably (many) more .cc sales than this, but it could give you an indication of the value of .cc domains..

dochlaggie · 01-14-2006, 09:28 PM

I have just had carsales.cc accepted on Great Domains for $6000-. I personally like the extension. Reminds me a little of com and I think that it has a great future. I dont have many "cc" domains [ only 5], as they are too expensive to register.
Just my opinion.

Sam · 01-14-2006, 10:31 PM

You notice that list is the TOP .cc sales

. Pretty much means for resaling purposes. cc= Crap Cctld

dawg · 01-14-2006, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by www.AmCy.org

That beauty.cc sale was a scam. Sorry.

please provide a link to back up your claim. Thanks

Spearseven · 01-14-2006, 10:40 PM

Thank you so much for your time and reply!

Spearseven

dawg · 01-14-2006, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Taylor Hewitt

Domainers don't like it because most end users would prefer the .com and therefore would not make as much money from the .cc as they would a higher-liked extension. That is why they concentrate on the main ones (.com, .us, .info, .net, .org, and .biz) - because they are more valued and liked than ccTLDs.

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Thanks for the enlightenment, I would never had guessed that without your input.

www.AmCy.org · 01-14-2006, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by dawg

please provide a link to back up your claim. Thanks

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/printme.php?eid=16282
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All hype. Just G00gle beauty.cc scam sale for more hits.

AmCy

dawg · 01-14-2006, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by www.AmCy.org

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/printme.php?eid=16282

All hype. Just G00gle beauty.cc scam sale for more hits.

AmCy

Yes, I just wanted to see if you would back your claim. whether or not it was a scam, someone still got 200k for the name in cash. That is not bad deal don't you think?

www.AmCy.org · 01-14-2006, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by dawg

Yes, I just wanted to see if you would back your claim. whether or not it was a scam, someone still got 200k for the name in cash. That is not bad deal don't you think?

The buyer and the seller were not strangers and in fact were pretty much in cahoots. A sale like that is meaningless.
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AmCy

dawg · 01-14-2006, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by www.AmCy.org

The buyer and the seller were not strangers and in fact were pretty much in cahoots. A sale like that is meaningless.

AmCy

Inlight of this and other domain sales in the past. Do you think domain trading is a looked down on profession?

www.AmCy.org · 01-14-2006, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by dawg

Inlight of this and other domain sales in the past. Do you think domain trading is a looked down on profession?

Folks who look down upon the trade are obviously folks who aren't comfortable with the capitalist, free market economy that we live in.

jandy · 01-15-2006, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by stscac

Using the wildcard "*" will get domains that end in .cc

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:*.cc

-Steve

0_O
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the first one is my 168.CC

TUFKATH · 01-15-2006, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by dawg

Thanks for the enlightenment, I would never had guessed that without your input.

Here's a concept: don't be a jerk. I was just adding my opinion.

ya hurr dawg? g-unit soldias a' in da hoose man!

01-15-2006, 11:19 AM

As is the case w/ several other cctld's, .cc does attract it's share of SPAM, but that factor shouldn't be a deterrant to developers, IMHO. A viable site will speak for itself and if development is the purpose behind the registration, the availability of good keywords makes .cc a bargain and offsets the comparative weakness of the ext.

The reason that domainers, (expressly, those who register names w/ their focus or emphasis on resale), don't like .cc , (as well as, the *majority* of other cctld's), is directly linked to poor sales record/s.

For example, two of my .cc domains that come to mind- Sailing_cc and OnlineCasino_cc - have gotten zero inquiries and have been sitting at GreatDomains, for 6mos - 1 year, now. (I just checked and it looks like OnlineCasino.cc dropped out of the listings.) Regardless, I will continue to hold them because I think the keywords are worthy and that the future always looks bright for good keywords.

An observation-
Often times, statements like, "I don't like .cc because it's attached to SPAM", ".Biz sounds cheezy" or "Who wants to buy an extention that's an abbrev. for Western Samoa?" etc, have more to do w/ an individual's interpretation of *why* the tld/cctld does not do better in the resale market than having to do w/ something that is inherrantly wrong w/ the ext. There's a subtle distinction here, but one worth noting, IMO. A well developed site that is successful or a turnaround in sales will neutralize most of the general conceptions about an ext, as well as, conceptions about a particular name group that is currently not in vogue.

edwinfelix · 01-16-2006, 06:25 AM

Quote:

A well developed site that is successful or a turnaround in sales will neutralize most of the general conceptions about an ext

Can't agree more.

MCDomains · 01-16-2006, 07:56 AM

Nothing wrong with the .CC ext. Develop and put it out there and you'll get results. Even if you just park it and find an end-user, you can sell your names. I've sold some .CC's ... they do have buyers.

dawg · 01-16-2006, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Taylor Hewitt

Here's a concept: don't be a jerk. I was just adding my opinion.
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ya hurr dawg? g-unit soldias a' in da hoose man!

hmmm, I was just making a point also. It seems I have seen many threads where you are involved in name calling. Looks like a pattern to me.

01-14-2006, 09:01 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
Spearseven NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Posts: 172	Thoughts and Opinions on the .cc Hey guys, I am new to the world of domaining and really want your thoughts and opinions on the .cc tld. Please forgive me for my dissertation and rambling. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/157432-thoughts-and-opinions-on-the-cc.html I have inundated myself over the past several weeks reading threads from domain forums and read with extreme interest. I realize that there are alot of folks in this industry that definitely know what they are talking about. I am impressed with the majority of your opinions and thoughts on the myriad discussions brought up here. Now, I am hoping that some of you would please take the time and help me answer a question that has lingered in my frazzled, domain frazzled noggin - What is wrong with the .cc tld? I have tried to research this tld to determine why it is not very liked. It is very hard to figure out. I realize that it is a country code, established for this little bittie Austrailian Island, its residents not huge internet fans like most of us are, and one country code tld of many. I reflect on the results of a question that I asked in a previous domain appraisal forum about a .cc dn. This is the opinion that I received: "<domain name deleted>... of course is very hot, but that .cc kills it. However, it's still a hot enough topic/name that you might approach some <industry deleted>.. dn buyers and still get something decent for it... approach them with an economical price for a premium name but weak dot.cc" Now, upon receiving this valuable opinion (trust me I am not mad about the opinion - I value it) but I am confused. I have read so many threads concerning the different tld's and the the domainers order of preference and significance. As an example - Some domainers like this order - .com, .net, .info. ,org, etc. Some like .com, .info, .us, . info. I could go on with the different variations of "preference". I realize that it is diferent in everyone's case based on past experiences, the dn, etc. I have read the original intent of these tld's : ie .net = network, .info = information, .org = charitable organizations and then I have read threads from alot of domainers that the original reasons for these tld's have basically gone by the wasteside. So if all of this is really the case - then why couldn't the .cc become a popular tld? When I research the availability of domain names I see in a lot of cases the .cc's taken. It just seems to me that if the .cc was so "weak" the .cc's that .cc's would still be available. I look at domain auction sites and see them selling. Heck look at domain.cc. Was the country code .us originally a sought after tld? It seems to have gained in popularity and I have even read threads from domainers that they prefer .us after the .com So, please shed your thoughts -I would really value them. I would really like to hear from folks that have had success with the .cc. Thanks in advance and I really look forward to hearing from you. Spearseven

01-14-2006, 01:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
dawg Dust Texas Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 473	Their is nothing wrong with the .CC domains. It is domainers that hate it not end users. Don't let domainers determine what you want to do with your domain hobby (I learned that a long time ago) I have sold .CC before for nice prices. I still reg them also, don't forget Beauty.cc sold for 1 million dollars a few years back. Good luck! __________________ Shared and Reseller hosting admin@hostmutt.com http://hostmutt.com Softaculous\|Cpanel\|RVSiteBuilder

01-14-2006, 06:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
Redleg Ultima Ratio Regum Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Up North Posts: 2,082	Here's the top 10 .cc sales I could find in 2005: Austria.cc €5,000 ($6,087) jun-05 Sedo Vegas.cc $4,500 sept-05 Sedo Bet.cc €2,500 ($3,007) jun-05 Sedo Profit.cc $1,288 mar-05 Afternic Adult.cc $1,000 sept-05 Afternic Jew.cc $1,000 des-05 Sedo O2.cc $850 Jan-05 Sedo Playstation.cc $600 jun-05 privat Ringtone.cc $550.00 03/01-2005 Afternic dna.cc $500.00 08/03-2005 Afternic LAN.cc $500.00 30/08-2005 Afternic http://www.domeneblogg.net/domenenav...-cctld-lister/ There are probably (many) more .cc sales than this, but it could give you an indication of the value of .cc domains.. __________________ IP Whois + Geolocation\|Geolocate your IP\|Dynamic Forum Sigs <meta name="Jedi Mind Trick" content="Buy my domains, you will!">

01-14-2006, 09:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
dochlaggie NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 415	I have just had carsales.cc accepted on Great Domains for $6000-. I personally like the extension. Reminds me a little of com and I think that it has a great future. I dont have many "cc" domains [ only 5], as they are too expensive to register. Just my opinion. __________________ Domain Portfolio * Domain News Mobile Dog Portal Holiday Guide Property Guide Mobile Music News Mobile Art * Australia Mobile * Pet Supplies Mobile Beauty Salons Antiques Mobile * Horoscope *

01-14-2006, 10:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sam Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,435	You notice that list is the TOP .cc sales . Pretty much means for resaling purposes. cc= Crap Cctld __________________ SPECIAL: The World's BEST Single Letter Domain Sale! Lowest single letter price on the market! Starting at $799

01-14-2006, 01:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
edwinfelix NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 749	You can check here: http://www.google.be/search?q=site:cc I don't really know any successful site, besides the .cc registry, which I really admire.

01-14-2006, 03:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
TUFKATH Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,373	Domainers don't like it because most end users would prefer the .com and therefore would not make as much money from the .cc as they would a higher-liked extension. That is why they concentrate on the main ones (.com, .us, .info, .net, .org, and .biz) - because they are more valued and liked than ccTLDs.

01-14-2006, 10:40 PM	THREAD STARTER #13 (permalink)
Spearseven NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Posts: 172	Thank you so much for your time and reply! Spearseven

01-15-2006, 11:19 AM	#22 (permalink)
Grrilla Guest Posts: n/a	As is the case w/ several other cctld's, .cc does attract it's share of SPAM, but that factor shouldn't be a deterrant to developers, IMHO. A viable site will speak for itself and if development is the purpose behind the registration, the availability of good keywords makes .cc a bargain and offsets the comparative weakness of the ext. The reason that domainers, (expressly, those who register names w/ their focus or emphasis on resale), don't like .cc , (as well as, the majority of other cctld's), is directly linked to poor sales record/s. For example, two of my .cc domains that come to mind- Sailing_cc and OnlineCasino_cc - have gotten zero inquiries and have been sitting at GreatDomains, for 6mos - 1 year, now. (I just checked and it looks like OnlineCasino.cc dropped out of the listings.) Regardless, I will continue to hold them because I think the keywords are worthy and that the future always looks bright for good keywords. An observation- Often times, statements like, "I don't like .cc because it's attached to SPAM", ".Biz sounds cheezy" or "Who wants to buy an extention that's an abbrev. for Western Samoa?" etc, have more to do w/ an individual's interpretation of why the tld/cctld does not do better in the resale market than having to do w/ something that is inherrantly wrong w/ the ext. There's a subtle distinction here, but one worth noting, IMO. A well developed site that is successful or a turnaround in sales will neutralize most of the general conceptions about an ext, as well as, conceptions about a particular name group that is currently not in vogue. Last edited by Grrilla; 01-15-2006 at 11:28 AM.

01-16-2006, 07:56 AM	#24 (permalink)
MCDomains DomainSeeking.com Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 2,447 Follow @AdvoCareMatt	Nothing wrong with the .CC ext. Develop and put it out there and you'll get results. Even if you just park it and find an end-user, you can sell your names. I've sold some .CC's ... they do have buyers. __________________ Erin Burnett CNN \| Free Images Royalty Free Be Your OWN Boss - AdvoCare Angie Harmon Pics

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