The .biz extension

coolpix · 07-29-2005, 11:37 PM

We all knows .com is king but I wanna know whats your view on .biz domains. I believe some people tend to view .BIZ as slightly shady, and perhaps it is because of some phishing attempts with .biz names similar to the .coms or the amount of spam sites with .biz extension. Is it true that .biz was viewed as 'second rate' extension? And do you think more businesses would adopt .biz in the future? Thanks.

JMJ · 07-30-2005, 12:04 AM

Have made more off a .biz than I have a .info and this was before the .info freebies. I don't think phishers or spammers have a prefered extension. Thats kind of like a drunk driver having a prefered car.

mole · 07-30-2005, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by coolpix

I believe some people tend to view .BIZ as slightly shady

Well, for sure.

http://www.ibm.biz
http://www.hewlettpackard.biz
http://www.microsoft.biz
http://www.sap.biz
http://www.billboard.biz

and 2,700,000 other sites at http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3A.biz+biz
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think .BIZ is shady.

-db- · 07-30-2005, 01:11 AM

I believe that my love for .US is matched only by mole's love for .BIZ, and I take comfort in knowing he's around to fight the good fight, and dispel the nasty rumors.

mole · 07-30-2005, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by -db-

dispel the nasty rumors.

Zeeble · 07-30-2005, 04:46 AM

I personally am not a great fan of .biz. But I have to admit that for some domains the extension fits nicely (see my sig).

hanz · 07-30-2005, 05:37 AM

there are many hosts using .biz domain and I think it will get more poppular in the future.

tolkein · 07-30-2005, 05:58 AM

I'll only reg one when I find it attractive enough, like hotstocks.biz

acronym007 · 07-30-2005, 06:27 AM

I don't like .biz much either. Seems like another silly TLD. Sure, people and businesses are using it. Some like IBM have no choice but to reg the extension or else get over run by cybersquatters like me. LOL. I do think in time all, yes all TLD's will have their place on the internet. .Com will be Hollywood while .info & .name will be in the slums. Cheers

Matrix1976 · 07-30-2005, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by acronym007

I don't like .biz much either. Seems like another silly TLD. Sure, people and businesses are using it. Some like IBM have no choice but to reg the extension or else get over run by cybersquatters like me. LOL. I do think in time all, yes all TLD's will have their place on the internet. .Com will be Hollywood while .info & .name will be in the slums. Cheers

I am not a great fan of .biz, but i must say, .name is the absolute worst and most useless tld out there IMO, i would take many cctlds b4 .name....although .biz isnt widely admired, i must admit, they are somewhat interesting since many nice keywords are available for reg or can be acquired at a decent price....

Duke · 07-30-2005, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by acronym007

I don't like .biz much either. Seems like another silly TLD. Sure, people and businesses are using it. Some like IBM have no choice but to reg the extension or else get over run by cybersquatters like me. LOL. I do think in time all, yes all TLD's will have their place on the internet. .Com will be Hollywood while .info & .name will be in the slums. Cheers

Apparently you haven't been to Hollywood in the past 30 years. Most of it IS a slum!

izo-pod · 07-31-2005, 03:30 PM

.Biz is a gTLD that is going to grow old gracefully. It's kind of like the dot org gTLD back in 1997. They were the ugliest things to look at or pronounce. The ".org" name didn't roll off the tongue. No one referred to organizations as ".org's". Over the years, they have been advertised more, and have gained a sense of "belonging" in the domain community. A trusted brand if you will. The same will happen to biz. Only certain ones however will attain limited type in value (example: www.Microsoft.biz, www.Ibm.biz). Even dot org names do not have the type in value of a .com.

One thing to note. It is the generation being born right now that will decide the future of domain naming. They will be the ones who will grow up in a world with many TLD choices. My guess is the TLDs that get advertised the most will get noticed. All businesses and/or industries have to advertise. It's their lifeblood. My bet is .com will still be around in 20 years. Will it be king? Not if they continue to use the domains as PPC pages!
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One thing to note: Toolbar technology is going to make things interesting. Instead of making your site SE friendly, we'll be talking about how to make our site "toolbar friendly"--lol!!

barefoottech · 07-31-2005, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by izo-pod

.Biz is a gTLD that is going to grow old gracefully. It's kind of like the dot org gTLD back in 1997. They were the ugliest things to look at or pronounce. The ".org" name didn't roll off the tongue. No one referred to organizations as ".org's". Over the years, they have been advertised more, and have gained a sense of "belonging" in the domain community. A trusted brand if you will. The same will happen to biz. Only certain ones however will attain limited type in value (example: www.Microsoft.biz, www.Ibm.biz). Even dot org names do not have the type in value of a .com.

One thing to note. It is the generation being born right now that will decide the future of domain naming. They will be the ones who will grow up in a world with many TLD choices. My guess is the TLDs that get advertised the most will get noticed. All businesses and/or industries have to advertise. It's their lifeblood. My bet is .com will still be around in 20 years. Will it be king? Not if they continue to use the domains as PPC pages!

One thing to note: Toolbar technology is going to make things interesting. Instead of making your site SE friendly, we'll be talking about how to make our site "toolbar friendly"--lol!!

BINGO
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=111112
Experiment ,type in to your favourite Browser and Search engine any High ranked Keyword
Bet you two things
1/ Not every listing on first page is for Keyword.Com
2/ First choice is just as likely to be somecrappyname.anything/keyword.file_ext

With the increased integration of search engines and Browser toolbars ,the Validity of .com being the Automatically selected choice has disappeared.

AdoptableDomains · 07-31-2005, 04:33 PM

There is nothing wrong with .biz for development, particularly for small business where .com is not an absolute necessity. But, if the name doesn't fit the extension, it's probably nearly worthless. For speculation, you should also gravitate toward the generic as brandable names are ususally preferred in .com by businesses of all sizes. I don't think .biz is "shady", it's just dominated by speculative domains rather than developed ones right now which gives it abad rep since most parked pages are just PPC which to many seem like spam. I think that will change over time.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=111112

I like all the gTLD's including com/net/org/info/biz as long as the extension fits. I also like .us (or your own ccTLD) which really fits just about anything since it's categorized by geography rather than site type.

monaco · 07-31-2005, 04:45 PM

I know for a fact that spamassassin adds points to emails that have a .biz link in them, making it more likely to get snapped up by a spam filter.

I would take that into consideration if you plan to use email marketing especially, or even if you intend to use a newsletter.

MissFlora · 07-31-2005, 04:49 PM

Domains fit in with their extension when choosen right. Will you say that computer.biz or comic.biz as being shady domains? I doubt so. Because the perfect combination makes the whole domain sensible, developable and valuable.

Flora.

monaco · 07-31-2005, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by MissFlora

Domains fit in with their extension when choosen right. Will you say that computer.biz or comic.biz as being shady domains? I doubt so. Because the perfect combination makes the whole domain sensible, developable and valuable.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=111112

Flora.

I didn't say I trust a .biz domain less than a .com domain. My trust comes from the verification path of the site's certificate(s). I just mentioned that the spamassassin people do, so it's something to consider.

edmarriner · 08-01-2005, 12:31 AM

.biz =

there very unbrandable i think

VURG · 08-01-2005, 02:13 AM

.COM says to me COMommerical, COMputer and COMpany and is obviously best as these three words are relevant to a lot of different elements of a website
.NET says to me Internet. This seems very important as a website is all about the internet.
.ORG is often associated with not-for-profit groups with great international reputations and so I think that these organisations keep the profile of .ORG up high and hence this name holds respect
.INFO is all about INFOrmation which is the most desired resource on the internet and so this is a great extension
.BIZ I see as the little brother of .COM. BIZ says business. It doesn't demand the same level of respect as .COM but it appeals to the cheap frank business man. It says I'm your average Joe who wants a chance at running a business but can't get the best domain name. .BIZ definately has it's place. If I see a .BIZ on a website it says to me, I'm small and cheap and so it appeals to part of me that wants the small guy to be given a chance. .BIZ will always be cheap but it definately has it's strengths

tolkein · 08-01-2005, 04:58 AM

Don't forget .ws for WebSite

I actually like this one but seems to be shunned by people. I have fifaworldcup.ws and it looks like a great address for a world cup website.

.biz? Well, like VURG mentioned, it has it's place although it sounds a little cheap.

Matrix1976 · 08-01-2005, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

What is the value of a .biz keyword when compared with the .com ?

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my guess would be 1% (ruff estimate which can vary)

1 000 000$ com : 10 000$ biz
100 000$ com : 1 000$ biz
10 000$ com : 100$ biz
1 000$ com : 10$ biz

rcep · 08-01-2005, 06:46 AM

i hate biz i think becasue still people not used to it becasue i never try a domain name .biz
all i try .com then .org then .net
i never thought of tring biz i think such extentions which r not very commenly used chould be much cheaper than other

izo-pod · 08-01-2005, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by edmarriner

.biz =

there very unbrandable i [think]

I [think], therefore I am...
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As more and more people go online to "strike" it rich, there will be a need for domain names. Remember at least 50 percent of workers absolutely hate what they do .Biz is positioned particularly well to take advantage of this situation. I think if you have a decent .biz name, you are that much better off. Acronyms', industry b2b names, and key word domains that describe a "job" or "profession" should fair well IMHO.

btw: I believe I have a very brandable dot biz name, www.Anywhere.biz Hopefully I will get this $(*&%(&E launched in this millenia!!!

Jimmy Changa · 08-01-2005, 06:59 AM

I hate .biz... no, no, I detest .biz! It makes me think of Amway and other high-pressure multi-level marketing crap. Sure, my view is off-base, unfounded and completely asinine, but it's MY view of the crappy .biz extension. I have never bought one, I have never even considered buying one and will NEVER do so. I hate .biz!

With that said...

You guys make me think that maybe I should buy one or two just so I can feel like a real domainer.

AmD950 · 08-01-2005, 07:18 AM

I have some .biz, but eh...
I dun think they are highly valuable

at least better than .cc

07-29-2005, 11:37 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
coolpix NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 247	The .biz extension We all knows .com is king but I wanna know whats your view on .biz domains. I believe some people tend to view .BIZ as slightly shady, and perhaps it is because of some phishing attempts with .biz names similar to the .coms or the amount of spam sites with .biz extension. Is it true that .biz was viewed as 'second rate' extension? And do you think more businesses would adopt .biz in the future? Thanks. __________________ AIMForum.com - Ready, AIM, Chat! Forum Elves - Quality Forum Posting At Affordable Prices! - Order A Package

07-30-2005, 12:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
JMJ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,888	Have made more off a .biz than I have a .info and this was before the .info freebies. I don't think phishers or spammers have a prefered extension. Thats kind of like a drunk driver having a prefered car. __________________ DN Sites Last edited by JMJ; 07-30-2005 at 12:10 AM.

07-30-2005, 01:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
-db- NamePros Inc. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Under the bed. Posts: 5,609	I believe that my love for .US is matched only by mole's love for .BIZ, and I take comfort in knowing he's around to fight the good fight, and dispel the nasty rumors. __________________ I support Children: Wish.org \| MissingKids.com I support Animals: SPCA.org \| SPCA.com Jeff \| Armstrong \| Grrilla - First 3 inductees into NamePro's Hall-Of-Fame.

07-30-2005, 04:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
Zeeble New.Net Destroyer.... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,947	I personally am not a great fan of .biz. But I have to admit that for some domains the extension fits nicely (see my sig). __________________ â€œIt is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.â€ - Adam Smith

07-30-2005, 05:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
hanz onArcade.com Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estonia Posts: 1,224	there are many hosts using .biz domain and I think it will get more poppular in the future. __________________ so.ee - really short URLs onArcade arcade script

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07-30-2005, 05:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
tolkein NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 993	I'll only reg one when I find it attractive enough, like hotstocks.biz __________________ Top 10 SEO Tips For Wordpress Blogs

07-30-2005, 06:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
acronym007 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,253	I don't like .biz much either. Seems like another silly TLD. Sure, people and businesses are using it. Some like IBM have no choice but to reg the extension or else get over run by cybersquatters like me. LOL. I do think in time all, yes all TLD's will have their place on the internet. .Com will be Hollywood while .info & .name will be in the slums. Cheers

07-31-2005, 03:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
izo-pod NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 312	.Biz is a gTLD that is going to grow old gracefully. It's kind of like the dot org gTLD back in 1997. They were the ugliest things to look at or pronounce. The ".org" name didn't roll off the tongue. No one referred to organizations as ".org's". Over the years, they have been advertised more, and have gained a sense of "belonging" in the domain community. A trusted brand if you will. The same will happen to biz. Only certain ones however will attain limited type in value (example: www.Microsoft.biz, www.Ibm.biz). Even dot org names do not have the type in value of a .com. One thing to note. It is the generation being born right now that will decide the future of domain naming. They will be the ones who will grow up in a world with many TLD choices. My guess is the TLDs that get advertised the most will get noticed. All businesses and/or industries have to advertise. It's their lifeblood. My bet is .com will still be around in 20 years. Will it be king? Not if they continue to use the domains as PPC pages! ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=111112 One thing to note: Toolbar technology is going to make things interesting. Instead of making your site SE friendly, we'll be talking about how to make our site "toolbar friendly"--lol!! Last edited by izo-pod; 07-31-2005 at 03:34 PM.

07-31-2005, 04:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
AdoptableDomains Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,015	There is nothing wrong with .biz for development, particularly for small business where .com is not an absolute necessity. But, if the name doesn't fit the extension, it's probably nearly worthless. For speculation, you should also gravitate toward the generic as brandable names are ususally preferred in .com by businesses of all sizes. I don't think .biz is "shady", it's just dominated by speculative domains rather than developed ones right now which gives it abad rep since most parked pages are just PPC which to many seem like spam. I think that will change over time. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=111112 I like all the gTLD's including com/net/org/info/biz as long as the extension fits. I also like .us (or your own ccTLD) which really fits just about anything since it's categorized by geography rather than site type. __________________ AdoptableDomains.com ~~~~~Finding Good Homes for Good Names~~~~~ FuelPrices.mobi - Fish.us - ManhattanNewYork.net - Salesmen.info - SoundSystems.org Dickering.com - JobPlacement.biz - LotteryTickets.ws - Deleted.cc - Names.im - MP3.hn

07-31-2005, 04:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
monaco NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 689	I know for a fact that spamassassin adds points to emails that have a .biz link in them, making it more likely to get snapped up by a spam filter. I would take that into consideration if you plan to use email marketing especially, or even if you intend to use a newsletter.

07-31-2005, 04:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
MissFlora Epitome.Of.Pulchritude Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,130	Domains fit in with their extension when choosen right. Will you say that computer.biz or comic.biz as being shady domains? I doubt so. Because the perfect combination makes the whole domain sensible, developable and valuable. Flora. __________________ %%- 29th May NP Auction at 8pm EDT/5pm PDT/12am UTC %%- Drop-by when you are free: 1-after-1 NP$ .info Auction Toronto Summer 2011: Book NOW! \| For Sale: CrazyScript.com - comes with some traffic!

08-01-2005, 12:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
edmarriner NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England :D Posts: 834	.biz = there very unbrandable i think __________________ Leeds united football club Leeds United , news , rumors , wallpapers and more!

08-01-2005, 02:13 AM	#19 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,565	.COM says to me COMommerical, COMputer and COMpany and is obviously best as these three words are relevant to a lot of different elements of a website .NET says to me Internet. This seems very important as a website is all about the internet. .ORG is often associated with not-for-profit groups with great international reputations and so I think that these organisations keep the profile of .ORG up high and hence this name holds respect .INFO is all about INFOrmation which is the most desired resource on the internet and so this is a great extension .BIZ I see as the little brother of .COM. BIZ says business. It doesn't demand the same level of respect as .COM but it appeals to the cheap frank business man. It says I'm your average Joe who wants a chance at running a business but can't get the best domain name. .BIZ definately has it's place. If I see a .BIZ on a website it says to me, I'm small and cheap and so it appeals to part of me that wants the small guy to be given a chance. .BIZ will always be cheap but it definately has it's strengths

08-01-2005, 04:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
tolkein NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 993	Don't forget .ws for WebSite I actually like this one but seems to be shunned by people. I have fifaworldcup.ws and it looks like a great address for a world cup website. .biz? Well, like VURG mentioned, it has it's place although it sounds a little cheap. __________________ Top 10 SEO Tips For Wordpress Blogs

08-01-2005, 06:46 AM	#22 (permalink)
rcep Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: lebanon Posts: 2,461 Follow @ryansdistrict	i hate biz i think becasue still people not used to it becasue i never try a domain name .biz all i try .com then .org then .net i never thought of tring biz i think such extentions which r not very commenly used chould be much cheaper than other __________________ Download free MP3 _____________ Get unique visitors 4 NPs (over 800 satisfied) << Check the Holidays offer _____ Email me for fast response ryan [at] ryansdistrict.com ________ My 9000NPs R 4 SALE cheap- Contact me!

08-01-2005, 06:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
Jimmy Changa PlanetBurrito.com Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 642	I hate .biz... no, no, I detest .biz! It makes me think of Amway and other high-pressure multi-level marketing crap. Sure, my view is off-base, unfounded and completely asinine, but it's MY view of the crappy .biz extension. I have never bought one, I have never even considered buying one and will NEVER do so. I hate .biz! With that said... You guys make me think that maybe I should buy one or two just so I can feel like a real domainer. __________________ My Current Domain Listings. Celebrity & Model Website Portal I ate some prunes today and they didn't do shit for me! - Jimmy Changa

08-01-2005, 07:18 AM	#25 (permalink)
AmD950 NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hong Kong SAR Posts: 671	I have some .biz, but eh... I dun think they are highly valuable at least better than .cc __________________ AmD950's HP \| AmD950's blog

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