freeipadworld.com - I am getting a lot interest. What should I price it?

RobertSnow · 02-09-2010, 06:06 AM

What do you think? Any advice would be appreciated soo much.

The domain is catching on the iPad craze, which is coming out soon. And free *insert Apple product* is always popular.

Thank you!

exsedo · 02-09-2010, 09:07 AM

Its the kind of domain you see on ebay for $100,000, but personally I wouldn't even pay the reg fee for it, especially as there is a legal battle going on for the trademarked term 'ipad'.

mosilager · 02-09-2010, 09:18 AM

agree, you're going to be tied up with legal issues, take the 1st decent offer and run!.

RobertSnow · 02-09-2010, 09:47 AM

So, what if they ask me the price? Should I say something in the low-mid XXXs? Thanks a lot for responding guys.

Apple actually allows first-level domains with apple products in them. They don't allow second-level domains.

BNZ · 02-09-2010, 10:47 AM

I'd consider deleting it. I mean, unless you think you can get enough to cover potential future legal fees. And considering how big a company Apple is.... I'm not sure you can get enough. Get as far away from this trademark infringement as possible is my advice.

RobertSnow · 02-09-2010, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by BNZ

I'd consider deleting it. I mean, unless you think you can get enough to cover potential future legal fees. And considering how big a company Apple is.... I'm not sure you can get enough. Get as far away from this trademark infringement as possible is my advice.

There are tons of freeiphone and freeipod domains out there. Apple allows it. They say they allow first-level domains.

sdomains · 02-09-2010, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by RobertSnow

There are tons of freeiphone and freeipod domains out there. Apple allows it. They say they allow first-level domains.

you sure about that? what about macbookpro.com that was just recently taken along with a handful of other trademarked apple names. It was recently discussed here
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-appraisals/638805-freeipadworld-com-i-am-getting-lot.html

http://www.namepros.com/industry-new...ain-names.html

BNZ · 02-09-2010, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by RobertSnow

There are tons of freeiphone and freeipod domains out there. Apple allows it. They say they allow first-level domains.

Please quote Apple and provide a source where they say they allow use of their copyrighted names. Thanks!

bmugford · 02-09-2010, 01:10 PM

I am not sure where you got this information. Apple has filed countless disputes and aggressively protects their brand.

Brad
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638805

Originally Posted by RobertSnow

Apple allows it. They say they allow first-level domains.

CamMK27 · 02-09-2010, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by RobertSnow

Apple actually allows first-level domains with apple products in them. They don't allow second-level domains.

Explain this please? What do you mean they allow first level domains and not second level domains? Also where did you get this info? Do you have a source where you read that Apple allows this activity?

BNZ · 02-09-2010, 04:00 PM

I think he's just assuming, since he's seen so many other Apple-related domains on the web and eBay specifically. Obviously, that's not the best way to get news. Domaining is serious and I think he'll want to read up on the laws before continuing. Apple is just not one you want to mess with from what I hear.

namewaiter · 02-09-2010, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by RobertSnow

I am getting a lot interest.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638805

The domain is catching on the iPad craze, which is coming out soon. And free *insert Apple product* is always popular.

thanks for the chuckle!

gilescoley · 02-09-2010, 05:19 PM

Quote:

There are tons of freeiphone and freeipod domains out there. Apple allows it. They say they allow first-level domains.

Thats not true, the word "iPad" is trademarked, you cannot use this in a domain, you are better off looking for names that arent TM's, especially when learning the ropes

I would "grace delete" the name and try again
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638805

Good luck

ecalc · 02-09-2010, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by RobertSnow

They don't allow second-level domains.

In DNS hierarchy, your SLD = freeipadworld. Good luck!

exsedo · 02-09-2010, 06:30 PM

Hope he didn't pay $xxxxxx for it off ebay

Babyfacemagee · 02-11-2010, 07:04 PM

iphonestore.com has been up for years without any problems. I'm sure they're making tons from that site. Apple seems to only go after those owners that use their sites to HURT the trademark in some way. There are countless iphone****.com names on the web either parked or selling products that Apple doesn't seem to care about. That doesn't mean that they won't change in the future so it's still a big risk. As for iPad...it's not Apple's trademark in the US. It's Fujitsu's and they let it expire or something so it's being fought over. I think it'll be quite a while before that's settled.

exsedo · 02-12-2010, 03:14 AM

I think the important thing here is to educate people who are new to domaining. If the OP had read and understood the Tm laws before he regged the domain, he would understand that he was entering the bad side of domaining. The fact that other Tm sites are up and running is really not an excuse. People break laws every day and get away with it. It is everyones choice which direction they take, but most reputable business people would not do business with cybersquatters. The pure volume of domains which infringe on trademarks make it impractical to prosecute every one of them, and the biggest concern of businesses who rely heavily on the internet, is people stealing their traffic. He may get lucky and not get a C&D letter, but then again, he may be the one they decide to make an example of.

BNZ · 02-12-2010, 08:15 AM

Even though some get away with it, in my opinion, this is like Domain Russian Roulette. How long can you pull the trigger before you have a major headache? And playing that game with a "gun" like Google, Apple, Microsoft, Sony.... well, that's some firepower. Sure, you and others may get lucky and never get the "bullet", but it's in there and when it reaches you, watch out.

defaultuser · 02-12-2010, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by exsedo

He may get lucky and not get a C&D letter, but then again, he may be the one they decide to make an example of.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638805
Not if he sold it.

Smartphone · 02-12-2010, 10:34 PM

Actually even if he sold it. The new owner if he/she gets in legal trouble can go back and sue the person who sold the name to them for damages. Its always a risk to cybersquatting and TM Infringemnt. Sometimes you get away with it and sometimes you get caught. Personally I would drop this name and run. I dont think it has any value with or without the TM issue.

defaultuser · 02-13-2010, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Smartphone

Actually even if he sold it. The new owner if he/she gets in legal trouble can go back and sue the person who sold the name to them for damages. Its always a risk to cybersquatting and TM Infringemnt. Sometimes you get away with it and sometimes you get caught. Personally I would drop this name and run. I dont think it has any value with or without the TM issue.

OT:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638805

Not that I don't believe you, but why wouldn't registries get sued left and right? Look at domain.me for example... they held for auction Porsche.me, ParisHilton.me etc...

Probably also depends on the contract..

syncvb · 02-13-2010, 06:02 AM

Read this and decide.
Apple Seizes 16 Domain Names From A Guy In One Fell Swoop
Apple is famous for snatching even not interesting domain names like "ipodaccessories.info"

02-09-2010, 06:06 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
RobertSnow New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 6	freeipadworld.com - I am getting a lot interest. What should I price it? What do you think? Any advice would be appreciated soo much. The domain is catching on the iPad craze, which is coming out soon. And free insert Apple product is always popular. Thank you!

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exsedo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: England Posts: 2,670	Its the kind of domain you see on ebay for $100,000, but personally I wouldn't even pay the reg fee for it, especially as there is a legal battle going on for the trademarked term 'ipad'. __________________ Unenforceable Loan ?-Desktop 3D Printer- Top 20 Coupons

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02-09-2010, 10:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
BNZ NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 163	I'd consider deleting it. I mean, unless you think you can get enough to cover potential future legal fees. And considering how big a company Apple is.... I'm not sure you can get enough. Get as far away from this trademark infringement as possible is my advice. __________________ -BNZ

02-09-2010, 04:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
BNZ NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 163	I think he's just assuming, since he's seen so many other Apple-related domains on the web and eBay specifically. Obviously, that's not the best way to get news. Domaining is serious and I think he'll want to read up on the laws before continuing. Apple is just not one you want to mess with from what I hear. __________________ -BNZ

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RobertSnow New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 6	So, what if they ask me the price? Should I say something in the low-mid XXXs? Thanks a lot for responding guys. Apple actually allows first-level domains with apple products in them. They don't allow second-level domains.

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02-11-2010, 07:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
Babyfacemagee NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New York Posts: 154	iphonestore.com has been up for years without any problems. I'm sure they're making tons from that site. Apple seems to only go after those owners that use their sites to HURT the trademark in some way. There are countless iphone****.com names on the web either parked or selling products that Apple doesn't seem to care about. That doesn't mean that they won't change in the future so it's still a big risk. As for iPad...it's not Apple's trademark in the US. It's Fujitsu's and they let it expire or something so it's being fought over. I think it'll be quite a while before that's settled. __________________ TopTenMBA SelfAwareness101 :love: BachelorDegree Blu-RayDiscounts MBAonline :santa: LawDegree :o WeeklyPresidentialAddress :p GraduateDegree :cool: TVwriter

02-12-2010, 03:14 AM	#17 (permalink)
exsedo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: England Posts: 2,670	I think the important thing here is to educate people who are new to domaining. If the OP had read and understood the Tm laws before he regged the domain, he would understand that he was entering the bad side of domaining. The fact that other Tm sites are up and running is really not an excuse. People break laws every day and get away with it. It is everyones choice which direction they take, but most reputable business people would not do business with cybersquatters. The pure volume of domains which infringe on trademarks make it impractical to prosecute every one of them, and the biggest concern of businesses who rely heavily on the internet, is people stealing their traffic. He may get lucky and not get a C&D letter, but then again, he may be the one they decide to make an example of. __________________ Unenforceable Loan ?-Desktop 3D Printer- Top 20 Coupons

02-12-2010, 08:15 AM	#18 (permalink)
BNZ NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 163	Even though some get away with it, in my opinion, this is like Domain Russian Roulette. How long can you pull the trigger before you have a major headache? And playing that game with a "gun" like Google, Apple, Microsoft, Sony.... well, that's some firepower. Sure, you and others may get lucky and never get the "bullet", but it's in there and when it reaches you, watch out. __________________ -BNZ

02-12-2010, 10:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
Smartphone NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 820	Actually even if he sold it. The new owner if he/she gets in legal trouble can go back and sue the person who sold the name to them for damages. Its always a risk to cybersquatting and TM Infringemnt. Sometimes you get away with it and sometimes you get caught. Personally I would drop this name and run. I dont think it has any value with or without the TM issue.

02-13-2010, 06:02 AM	#22 (permalink)
syncvb NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: .in Posts: 434	Read this and decide. Apple Seizes 16 Domain Names From A Guy In One Fell Swoop Apple is famous for snatching even not interesting domain names like "ipodaccessories.info"

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