Techniques .ws

Bizza · 08-19-2009, 04:58 AM

I just picked this up last week TECHNIQUES(.)WS and plan on developing it into a site for (surprise surprise...) Techniques on many topics, including website development etc. Given the rarity of single worded domains these days (even though this is a plural), I found this gem available AND there's 5 million searches on G*gle for the keyword alone.

Here's some other research I did on other keywords relating to it:
Keywords Search Volumes
sales techniques 921
marketing techniques 83,400
massage technique 644
editing techniques 11,400
penis enlargement techniques 123
photography techniques 178,000
vocal techniques 3,700
bass fishing techniques 10,800
wall painting techniques 540
advertising technique 13,200
book binding techniques 80
emotional freedom technique 590
real estate sales technique 172
relaxing techniques 531
singing techniques 1,440
project management techniques 23,300
paint techniques 9,740
rendering techniques 12,800
hair weaving techniques 69
massage techniques 13,200
hypnosis techniques 5,220
transducer techniques 1,160
release technique 4,370
teeth whitening techniques 97
nlp techniques 2,130
clitoral stimulation techniques 144
training techniques 76,600
swimming technique 3,740
online marketing techniques 255
customer retention technique 6
relaxation techniques 16,900
real estate sales techniques 34
batting techniques 107
anger management techniques 2,060
parenting techniques 2,500
auto sales technique 24
currency technique trading 154
control techniques 346,000
telephone sales techniques 315
brainstorming techniques 1,100
free natural penis enlargement technique 39
penis enlargement technique 712
acting techniques 9,580
muscle building techniques 652
eye makeup techniques 286
martial arts techniques 10,700
airbrush techniques 3,950
mediation techniques 1,340
interview techniques 780
self defence techniques 549
selling techniques 20,400
painting techniques 14,300
speed reading techniques 1,440
classroom management techniques 2,810
budgeting techniques 1,430
self defense technique 958
interviewing techniques 10,400
faux painting technique 147
acrylic painting techniques 704
plaster techniques 439
motivation techniques 2,390
art techniques 13,000
shaving techniques 614
calming techniques 539
telesales techniques 178
make up techniques 1,250
sex techniques 15,200
chiropractic technique 3,650
fishing techniques 949
recruiting techniques 2,000
embroidery techniques 7,790
phone sales technique 36
coaching techniques 7,220
alexander technique 25,800
healing techniques 12,100
faux techniques 541
forex trading techniques 149
faux painting techniques 9,080
workout techniques 2,270
meditation techniques 11,900
dog training techniques 2,040
plastering techniques 659
beading techniques 4,720
sales technique 4,190
presentation techniques 7,190
visualization techniques 516
surveillance techniques 3,220
self defense techniques 7,080
sales and marketing technique 107
wedding photography techniques 4,490
lifting techniques 1,640
makeup techniques 2,700
software testing techniques 6,460
potty training techniques 624
faux finish techniques 158
direct mail techniques 100
mind control techniques 1,290
interior painting techniques 159
photo techniques 633
advertising techniques 44,900

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Any ideas on what it would be worth now and maybe what it could be worth once developed?

Thanks in advance gang!

Cheers!
-Bizza.

Bizza · 08-20-2009, 12:34 PM

Anyone?

bmugford · 08-20-2009, 12:54 PM

For .WS to hold any value the keywords need to be amazing.

A domain like Investments.ws sold for $165.

I don't see much value as a reseller.

Brad

Bizza · 08-21-2009, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by bmugford

For .WS to hold any value the keywords need to be amazing.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=604352

A domain like Investments.ws sold for $165.

I don't see much value as a reseller.

Brad

Thank you so much Brad for your input.

I was wondering though, whether the SE's algorithms would actually have .com TLD's in favour of others when they rank, or does content, popularity, quality and relevance have more inportance in this case? Just an observation, but I saw that Techniques(.)info is ranked higher than its .com/.net/.org counterparts.

Would my logic be on the right track in this case?

It's also encouraging to know that Investments.ws has sold for that much considering the keyword Investments gets:
2.74 Million (broad) searches pm globally and 135K (exact) searches with a CPC of $5.48

while...

Techniques gets:
5 Million (broad) and 45K (exact) searches globally with a lower CPC of $1.19

I also did some research on the .ws extention and it seems alot more domainers are preffering this over other TLD's due to its short 2 letters AND they're both close to each other on the keyboard AND it stands for "Web Site".

What do you think matey?

Any other opinions would also be appreciated.

Thanks again!

hrethel · 08-21-2009, 07:42 AM

If you're talking about Google specifically, their methods tend to focus on the content that's on the site. Their algorithms are finely-tuned to get sites with more relevant content to the top, regardless of the domain it's on. That's why good development is so key to weaker domains. And on Google, I see the .org ranking higher, probably because it's a developed site with many customers.
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As for the searches, it's the exact searches that matter. The broad searches include any search with techniques in the search terms, even if they're unlikely to lead to anything. "Best techniques for parking my car" would show up in broad, but not in exact, since exact requires it to be the only search term. And just because people search for it, doesn't mean they visit any sites once they see the incredible generic nature of that term.

As for the .ws extension, there may be many domainers preferring it, but there are very few good domainers preferring it. This industry is riddled with people who see sales like business.com, think the industry is a gold mine that will make them money quick, and then spend their money on awful domains or, all too commonly, TM domains. In the former case, at least they're only out the money they already spent; in the latter, they can easily lose much, much more.

That's why I (and many others here) try to be as honest as possible, even if the truth hurts. The domaining industry is vilified enough by people who (incorrectly) see it as trying to profit off other companies' goodwill. The US in particular has strict laws on cybersquatting because of this perception (and based on some domains that have been offered for sale, it's easy to see why).

Getting back to the original point, though, the .ws ccTLD never really took off. When was the last time that you saw the average Internet user even know the the .ws TLD even existed? As a branding aspect, even if .ws has the perception of standing for "web site," it doesn't have the recognition among the average user. As Brad pointed out, sales for .ws have been abysmal at best. There are plenty of people registering domains in that TLD, but virtually no appreciable sales. As an investment, .ws is a money sink, not a money maker.

matrigaldo · 08-21-2009, 08:03 AM

With a good development work, every domain with every tld could acquire some value, sooner or later.
Build a good website, attract some traffic, increase your pagerank and your SE positions, and even Techniques [dot] ws will have some value

Bizza · 08-21-2009, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by hrethel

...Their algorithms are finely-tuned to get sites with more relevant content to the top, regardless of the domain it's on. That's why good development is so key to weaker domains....

I really appreciate your honesty and both of your valued input hrethel and matrigaldo. I think what you said above outlines the real key to success.
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I'm on to it straight away. I have hope with the .ws domains for the future, but here's to hoping ey?

I don't think I will sell this for a long time (if at all!).
Thanks gang!

hrethel · 08-21-2009, 11:04 AM

No problem, Bizza. I'm glad to see your willingness to learn. There are plenty of people who come here for appraisals on truly horrible domains (25+ letters with no connection), then when told that it's worthless, respond that we clearly have no idea about the extreme value of their domain and that they'll be a millionaire by next Tuesday.

No matter whether it's domaining or baseball or chess, everyone starts out at the same level. It's all about learning and accepting constructive criticism that separates the people who eventually get good at it from those who spend years on such domains as ReallyCoolWebsiteWithGreenSuspendersOnIt.com and get nowhere fast. Good luck!

Bizza · 08-24-2009, 10:40 AM

Thanks for the encouragement.

You know? All this seems so similar to the old days of the US when they first started their nation. Everyone was going west and whatnot to grab a piece of land, a piece of property no matter where and how small or large, which now are very very valuable!

I see owning domains/sites on the vastness of the WWW in a similar way.

Grab 'em gang... it's on for young and old!

The Wild West of the WWW is here.

Riding the wave...

08-19-2009, 04:58 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
Bizza NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 203	Techniques .ws I just picked this up last week TECHNIQUES(.)WS and plan on developing it into a site for (surprise surprise...) Techniques on many topics, including website development etc. Given the rarity of single worded domains these days (even though this is a plural), I found this gem available AND there's 5 million searches on Ggle for the keyword alone. Here's some other research I did on other keywords relating to it: Keywords Search Volumes* sales techniques 921 marketing techniques 83,400 massage technique 644 editing techniques 11,400 penis enlargement techniques 123 photography techniques 178,000 vocal techniques 3,700 bass fishing techniques 10,800 wall painting techniques 540 advertising technique 13,200 book binding techniques 80 emotional freedom technique 590 real estate sales technique 172 relaxing techniques 531 singing techniques 1,440 project management techniques 23,300 paint techniques 9,740 rendering techniques 12,800 hair weaving techniques 69 massage techniques 13,200 hypnosis techniques 5,220 transducer techniques 1,160 release technique 4,370 teeth whitening techniques 97 nlp techniques 2,130 clitoral stimulation techniques 144 training techniques 76,600 swimming technique 3,740 online marketing techniques 255 customer retention technique 6 relaxation techniques 16,900 real estate sales techniques 34 batting techniques 107 anger management techniques 2,060 parenting techniques 2,500 auto sales technique 24 currency technique trading 154 control techniques 346,000 telephone sales techniques 315 brainstorming techniques 1,100 free natural penis enlargement technique 39 penis enlargement technique 712 acting techniques 9,580 muscle building techniques 652 eye makeup techniques 286 martial arts techniques 10,700 airbrush techniques 3,950 mediation techniques 1,340 interview techniques 780 self defence techniques 549 selling techniques 20,400 painting techniques 14,300 speed reading techniques 1,440 classroom management techniques 2,810 budgeting techniques 1,430 self defense technique 958 interviewing techniques 10,400 faux painting technique 147 acrylic painting techniques 704 plaster techniques 439 motivation techniques 2,390 art techniques 13,000 shaving techniques 614 calming techniques 539 telesales techniques 178 make up techniques 1,250 sex techniques 15,200 chiropractic technique 3,650 fishing techniques 949 recruiting techniques 2,000 embroidery techniques 7,790 phone sales technique 36 coaching techniques 7,220 alexander technique 25,800 healing techniques 12,100 faux techniques 541 forex trading techniques 149 faux painting techniques 9,080 workout techniques 2,270 meditation techniques 11,900 dog training techniques 2,040 plastering techniques 659 beading techniques 4,720 sales technique 4,190 presentation techniques 7,190 visualization techniques 516 surveillance techniques 3,220 self defense techniques 7,080 sales and marketing technique 107 wedding photography techniques 4,490 lifting techniques 1,640 makeup techniques 2,700 software testing techniques 6,460 potty training techniques 624 faux finish techniques 158 direct mail techniques 100 mind control techniques 1,290 interior painting techniques 159 photo techniques 633 advertising techniques 44,900 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-appraisals/604352-techniques-ws.html ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=604352 Any ideas on what it would be worth now and maybe what it could be worth once developed? Thanks in advance gang! Cheers! -Bizza.

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08-21-2009, 07:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
hrethel NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 242	If you're talking about Google specifically, their methods tend to focus on the content that's on the site. Their algorithms are finely-tuned to get sites with more relevant content to the top, regardless of the domain it's on. That's why good development is so key to weaker domains. And on Google, I see the .org ranking higher, probably because it's a developed site with many customers. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=604352 As for the searches, it's the exact searches that matter. The broad searches include any search with techniques in the search terms, even if they're unlikely to lead to anything. "Best techniques for parking my car" would show up in broad, but not in exact, since exact requires it to be the only search term. And just because people search for it, doesn't mean they visit any sites once they see the incredible generic nature of that term. As for the .ws extension, there may be many domainers preferring it, but there are very few good domainers preferring it. This industry is riddled with people who see sales like business.com, think the industry is a gold mine that will make them money quick, and then spend their money on awful domains or, all too commonly, TM domains. In the former case, at least they're only out the money they already spent; in the latter, they can easily lose much, much more. That's why I (and many others here) try to be as honest as possible, even if the truth hurts. The domaining industry is vilified enough by people who (incorrectly) see it as trying to profit off other companies' goodwill. The US in particular has strict laws on cybersquatting because of this perception (and based on some domains that have been offered for sale, it's easy to see why). Getting back to the original point, though, the .ws ccTLD never really took off. When was the last time that you saw the average Internet user even know the the .ws TLD even existed? As a branding aspect, even if .ws has the perception of standing for "web site," it doesn't have the recognition among the average user. As Brad pointed out, sales for .ws have been abysmal at best. There are plenty of people registering domains in that TLD, but virtually no appreciable sales. As an investment, .ws is a money sink, not a money maker.

08-21-2009, 11:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
hrethel NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 242	No problem, Bizza. I'm glad to see your willingness to learn. There are plenty of people who come here for appraisals on truly horrible domains (25+ letters with no connection), then when told that it's worthless, respond that we clearly have no idea about the extreme value of their domain and that they'll be a millionaire by next Tuesday. No matter whether it's domaining or baseball or chess, everyone starts out at the same level. It's all about learning and accepting constructive criticism that separates the people who eventually get good at it from those who spend years on such domains as ReallyCoolWebsiteWithGreenSuspendersOnIt.com and get nowhere fast. Good luck!

08-24-2009, 10:40 AM	THREAD STARTER #9 (permalink)
Bizza NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 203	Thanks for the encouragement. You know? All this seems so similar to the old days of the US when they first started their nation. Everyone was going west and whatnot to grab a piece of land, a piece of property no matter where and how small or large, which now are very very valuable! I see owning domains/sites on the vastness of the WWW in a similar way. Grab 'em gang... it's on for young and old! The Wild West of the WWW is here. Riding the wave...

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