ramakazi

Hey,

I think we need this on NP, there are too many appraisals for LLLL.com's asking the same thing, I just made an inquiry a few minutes ago so let me start and if anyone can contribute the value of any of these please place it bellow.

Thanks:

From 4LetterNoob:
Anti-premium: $35
Single Premium: $35
Double Premium: $40

Triple Premiums:
with Q: $45
with X: $50
with Z: $55
with Y: $65
with J: $70
with V: $85
with K: $90
with U: $120
with W: $140

Quad Premiums: $330-$1000+ depending on the letters.
Lower Quality Premiums: H, F, G
2 Strongest Premium Letters: A, S
Other High Quality Premiums: E, M, D, I, T, O

Letter position is also important: C,I,L make stronger ending letters than they typically are elsewhere in an LLLL.com.

A and O are strong in either the starting or ending position and S is stronger in the starting position.


Quad Premiums containing 3 of the same letters (eg: SOOO.com) tend to sell at a significant premium, regardless of the quality the letters are.

quad premium triple letter: $1XXX at auction

Triple Premiums (including non-premiums): $500-$3000+ (Depends On the letter quality, traffic, age, end users, collectibility

When the triple letter pattern is broken up (e.g. ABAA): $300-$1200 (depending on if premium or not, as well as factors mentioned above)


repeat letters containing at least 1 bad letter tend to sell for $500-$1500.

AABB types (e.g. AABB.com): $500-$2000+
(With $500 Being Anti-premium such as XXQQ.com)
(With $1000+ being what all premium conbinations e.g. TTII)


ABBA types (e.g. ABBA.com): $300+

(premium combinations extremely difficult to obtain under $800) - Usually
$1XXX.

Now, if anyone can help chip in and provide the values for:
CVCV, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
CVCY, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
CYCV, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
CYCY, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
VCVC, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
VCYC, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
YCVC, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
YCYC, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
VVVV, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
VVVC, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
VVCV, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
VCVV, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
CVVV, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
CVVC, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)
VCCV, (Premium, Anti-premium, etc.)

It would be much appreciated and anyothers I missed out, as soon as I get enough for a list, I'll make another thread for all the values.

Thanks

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ramakazi

please guys, any would be appreciated for everyone

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ramakazi

please guys,

any knowledge place it here

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dezinerite

Thing is, you pretty much said a lot of important things there...and I can only conclude that prices highly depend on numerous factors and not one alone.

I personally think a good placement of those bad letters can actually be very valuable. E.g. a triple premium with a 'Q' wouldn't necessarily be at $45. Do you see something like FAQs.com (triple premium with Q, and a common Abbr.) going for $45?

Also, sometimes the buyer sees something that the seller doesn't see. Many here only speak one or two languages so there are tons of acronyms and abbr. we don't realize. Quite a while ago I was sold a domain at what I thought was a bargain price. It had triple premium letters and was also a common pronounceable acronym (I'm not sure if the seller realized that).

IMHO it's a whole lot more accurate to appraise the value of the LLLL.com when you know exactly what those 4 letters are.

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ramakazi

thanks thats great.

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Reece

The LLLL.com price guide (4 Letter Noob) is mainly focussed on allowing someone to quickly estimate the value of a large number of LLLL.coms in a reseller environment. That's also a major reason why I stay away from providing much in the way of details on pronounceables -- prices can vary so much on these that I really wouldn't want it on my conscience that someone sold out for thousands too cheap or bought for thousands too much...

If you had 100 non-pronounceable triple premiums + X and resold in a reseller environment, what's reported on my blog (4 Letter Noob) would almost guaranteed be within +/- 30% of what you obtain. On a single LLLL.com however, my blog (or any appraisal, really) is highly inaccurate -- we just can't account for things like endusers or why a certain domain may go for more on a particular day than the exact same domain would on a different day (different bidders, different market conditions, different amounts of now available disposable income, etc).


As dezinerite has said -- bad letters aren't "bad" in every situation, as the FAQs example provided below elucidates and as sales of strong acronyms such as UK or RX in example reinforce.

To accurately appraise any 4 letter .com in a reseller environment (this is the only type of appraisal I believe in giving -- nobody is qualified to tell you what an enduser will pay), you'd certainly need to know the name in question, it's pronounceability and the desirability of the letters (including in other languages and how it's desirability in foreign languages may influence it's value to a predominantly English domaining population) and the desirability of the order in which they present themselves, the likelihood of finding an enduser, whether there's any significant traffic or age which may complement it's value, any significant collector value (may be influenced by rarity, pronounceability, or other characteristics such as extreme age, extremely premium letters, all vowels,...), what similar names have gone for recently (if this data is available), current trends and fads, the availability of comparable domains (more choice likely means less value),... There really are an infinitesimal amount of factors influencing the value of a particular domain on a particular day, and I'm sure a statistician could draw up another hundred I neglected to mention (eg. how might selling right at tax time influence domain valuation? Chances are that big domainers are paying in whereas smaller domainers may be getting some money back, could this have an effect?).

- http://4letternoob.wordpress.com/20...-llllcom-worth/

Edit: Got this thread highlighted + stickied -- hope it helps better understand what everyone's LLLL.coms are worth

Originally Posted by dezinerite

Thing is, you pretty much said a lot of important things there...and I can only conclude that prices highly depend on numerous factors and not one alone. I personally think a good placement of those bad letters can actually be very valuable. E.g. a triple premium with a 'Q' wouldn't necessarily be at $45. Do you see something like FAQs.com (triple premium with Q, and a common Abbr.) going for $45? Also, sometimes the buyer sees something that the seller doesn't see. Many here only speak one or two languages so there are tons of acronyms and abbr. we don't realize. Quite a while ago I was sold a domain at what I thought was a bargain price. It had triple premium letters and was also a common pronounceable acronym (I'm not sure if the seller realized that). IMHO it's a whole lot more accurate to appraise the value of the LLLL.com when you know exactly what those 4 letters are.

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ramakazi

Thanks heaps reece!

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ramakazi

Yep,

anymore info?

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Hurley4540

Thanks....should clear up a lot of threads for LLLL.coms...