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03-21-2005, 07:57 AM
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| Ravaged By Age  Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PST + 8
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       | .in / .co.in - not everyones happy Seems the indian press aint too happy.....  ops:BY MELVYN MISQUITA HERALD PANJIM, MARCH 13 -- Imagine an investment of Rs 800 yielding you returns as high as Rs 30,000 within a few days. A new form of investment, commonly known as ‘cybersquatting’, involves the act of registering a popular internet address with the intent of either selling it at a steep price to its rightful owner or using it as part of premium services. Aware of the possibiliy of reaping a rich harvest, a number of d-name investors -- many of them foreigners -- have already bought ‘.in’ domain names with the hope that their investments will be sold at a premium to interested parties. Given below are some of the common ‘.in’ domain names that have been registered by foreigners. Note the high concentration of d-investors from Germany and USA, the two largest webhosting countries in the world. Domain name Registered to Country abdulkalam.in Andrew Chen USA kalam.in Andrew Chen USA bachchan.in Sandro Menotti Switzerland amitabhbachchan.in Suneet Wadhwa USA preitazinta.in Suneet Wadhwa USA sachintendulkar.in Mathew Mayer United Kingdom sauravganguly.in Adam Dicker Canada aamirkhan.in Adam Dicker Canada ranimukherjee.in Adam Dicker Canada kajol.in Adam Dicker Canada twinklekhanna.in Adam Dicker Canada manishakoirala.in Adam Dicker Canada mallikasherawat.in C Alexandersson Sweden aishwaryarai.in Pino Baharat Canada juhichawla.in Jean Jolivet Canada indian.in Junlong Zheng China bjp.in Pino Baharat Canada priest.in mark segal United Kingdom rbi.in Caliberplus Inc USA nse.in Nadir Sen Emarad USA governmentofindia.in Davinderpal S Bhatia USA rupee.in Domain Admin USA reporter.in Sergio Costanzo USA computer.in Stephan Koenig USA internet.in Stephan Koenig USA police.in John Berghoff USA scooter.in John Berghoff USA paper.in Stephen Wilson USA president.in Zolly McMahn USA engineer.in Zolly McMahn USA catholic.in Robert DeMartinis USA flag.in Andreas Arndt Germany tea.in Jens Mechelke Germany sex.in Hans-Juergen Becker Germany business.in Christoph Hartmann Germany email.in Christoph Hartmann Germany saree.in Christoph Hartmann Germany hotel.in Christoph Hartmann Germany car.in Christoph Hartmann Germany mobile.in Christoph Hartmann Germany hockey.in Christoph Hartmann Germany map.in Christoph Hartmann Germany football.in Daniel Fuehrer Germany house.in Daniel Fuehrer Germany law.in Jens Mechelke Germany ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/cctld-discussion/76744-in-co-in-not-everyones-happy.html church.in Matthias Kosminski Germany parliament.in Matthias Kosminski Germany shiva.in Thomas Dolezal Germany hanuman.in Markus Wild Germany mahatma.in Markus Wild Germany bse.in Rolf Bluethgen Switzerland coffee.in Rolf Bluethgen Switzerland bachchan.in Sandro Menotti Switzerland newspaper.in Rolf Bluethgen Switzerland editor.in Joseph Taheny Australia mary.in benito sanchez zabala Spain cross.in Elijah Kim China Melvyn S. Misquita Asst Chief of News Bureau, Herald, Panjim, Goa - 403001 INDIA ANYONE IN THERE....????
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| Name Cartel's Mr. Blonde  Join Date: Aug 2004
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 or  . While it's nice to see I registered a domain of interest, it's alarming to see my name following a misinformed blurb on the definition of "cybersquatting." | ||||
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03-21-2005, 11:35 AM
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=76744 By the way, I think the author is in violation of WhoIs terms by publishing personal info in such manner. | ||||
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03-21-2005, 12:38 PM
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| Did anyone... “Note the high concentration” of cyber-ignorants from the Indian press who have been whining about the perfectly legitimate purchase of .in names by people who happen to use foreign address. I mean WTF. Some of the names of the so-called cybersquatters listed there are Indian! |
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03-21-2005, 12:45 PM
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| he-he I recognize a couple of names that made the list. Not that it necessarily relates, but I became familiar w/ one individual named here, from an incident, in which he stole someone else's program and than began marketing and selling it, as his own.  ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=76744
Although, I carry an optimistism that the elevation of the human spirit is achievable, and that, coincidentally, India, (for reasons that are unknown to me), appears to offer some of the world's more fertile grounds for exploring this potentiality,  I can't elevate myself above, or view myself as seperate from the human condition. That is why I must confess to a bit of jealousy,  and, despite my best efforts, I do find myself asking, "Why didn't I do that ?"  
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03-21-2005, 12:46 PM
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__________________ Drop Catching Services - Click here for more info Especially effective for .co, .in and .co.in domains. I also offer drop lists for these extensions. | ||||
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03-22-2005, 01:32 PM
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| I also made the list and do not know if it is good or bad...
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03-22-2005, 02:51 PM
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| NamePros Expert  Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Smalltown USA
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| lol, cybersquatters, wtf? Now, I'm pretty sure that, trade barrier wise, India wants to push as much exports into the U.S. as possible, they get ticked off if it goes the other way? Call it what it is, smart investing of capital, or a true interest in developing competitive sites aimed at an emerging market. I picked up tarps.in . I may sell that off to a textile mill in India, or I may just hold onto it for when I begin to import a line of tarps from India, and resell in bulk to other tarp shops. Who's to say that isn't the case with almost any of the domains listed there?
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03-22-2005, 03:01 PM
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I salute you, my wild furry friend. 
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03-22-2005, 05:13 PM
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| NamePros Regular  Join Date: Mar 2005
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| The ramifications of Globalization are indeed a double edged sword (if you will pardon the cliche ). You are not likely to see the same journalist lamenting for western employees as they receive the axe due to outsourcing to India, or remarking at how bad it is to have online freelancers ( from india, and similar countries ) able to undercut developers/freelancers from the west due to the lower cost of living. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=76744 You have your cake, but if you think we are gonna give you the chance to F****N eat it too you are sadly mistaken, we have to take something back.... Having said that, I have not reg'd a .in yet!!!  |
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03-22-2005, 06:21 PM
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=76744 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=76744 I'm a Libra. I'm not certain if my association w/ this astrological sign came from an external source, (ie the effect of planetary alignment, a shift in a body of dark matter somewhere in the universe, or some undiscovered quantum activity) or is from an internal source and is the result of being "socialized" into identifying w/ being a Libra. Either/and/or way, I am predisposed to see both sides of an issue, to the point where sometimes it is difficult to take a position. So, my above post is a product of dealing with conflicting forces and my attempt to, if not unify them, to, at least, make them compatible. I mean, a very real part of me is kicking myself in the ass, telling me that I should have gotten down, done my homework, gotten into the race, and reaped the rewards- "Hey it's a world of survival out there, I'm up to the task, so let's get it on and kick some ass!" Than, there's another side of me that is affirming the virtue of not using my "smarts" or any technological or economic edge that I may possess, to take advantage of another country's namespace and own rights to something that, maybe, I shouldn't be owning rights to. Beyond making a buck and looking out for my own interests, I really don't have a direct need for the domain, I don't fully identify with it, and those who are closer to the source, could be using it more constructively, than I, if I step back and stay out of the way. I know there are issues regarding intent, ie "How can you possibly have any idea of what Sid and Sally Sixpack from Nebraska are planning to do with Krishna.co.in?" And, I know, there is the matter of immediate revenue that the government of India is receiving, but, come on, relative to what many of the names will go/are going for on the street, who is really winning? And how many Indians will have lesser domains w/ less potential for traffic and, thus, success, because they weren't hip to what was going on and had no way of forseeing that Reggie the Regger would be racing to the registry grabbing every worthwhile name he could, along the way. "Well, no one was twisting India's arm to open up their namespace to the world! They made their own choice." The actions of a government and the will and enrichment of it's people are not always in sync, a fact that I am well aware of, being a citizen of the country that I was fated to live in. I imagine that, as this drama unfolds, there will be more than one Indian that becomes pi~~ed off w/ the whole affair. I have to look past myself and past the bureaucratic idiots that are making decisions for their citizens and ask myself if it is right for me to engage in activities that will have the effect of further antagonizing, dividing and alienating other members in our "global village?" Funny, I don't have the same predicament when it comes to the "major" tld's or .us (my country cctld). Those are up for grabs, baby. The smaller countries ie Tuvali, Western Samoa etc, (who are fortunate enough to have the right initials) are probably better off, economically, to have sold out their namespaces. But, despite where my sentiments may lie regarding co.in, and other exts w/ similar circumstances surrounding them, I still have some of Reggie the Regger inside of me, tugging at me, whispering, "Hurry up or you'll miss out!"
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03-22-2005, 06:33 PM
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   | The opening up of the Indian namespace to foreigners was a gov't-approved registry policy. If they want their precious names back, all they have to do is jack up the renewal fee to, oh, $1,000 a year. That's sure to force speculators to drop them like its hot!
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03-22-2005, 06:54 PM
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=76744 It's a strange business / hobby / sport in which we dwell. | ||||
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03-22-2005, 09:43 PM
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-but I understand what you are getting at. By homework, I mean researching words and usage preferences in English, Hindi, maybe some Sanskrit, Indian States and Cities, Geography, Holidays, Events, People, History and the like, setting up lists, using bulk search software if possible w/ their registry, (don't know because I didn't do my homework on this one) or getting a whois search script, in lieu of. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=76744 I, too, often use a simple approach, similar to what your approach was. But I look at landrushes in a different light, as in "This ain' no party, this ain't no disco!" Whew, I'm tired. Been running in deep mode, lately. Time to resurface and switch over to the "lite" edition.  | ||||
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