For all those speculating in .IN...

dgridley · 02-20-2005, 09:46 PM

For all those speculating or rationalizing your .IN purchases, take a look at this article entitled India: Knowledge Superpower over at New Scientist:

http://www.newscientist.com/special/india

-db- · 02-20-2005, 10:26 PM

Nice link.

The thing I want to know, and would like to find some credible and thorough resource on - is exactly how common English is spoken/written in India. I know it's fairly common, but I really want more details.

Also, what about print, billboard and other types of advertisements.

dgridley · 02-20-2005, 10:35 PM

Amongst the upper classes in particular, I suspect english is widely spoken as a second language (having been under British rule for many years).. in the lower classes, I'd imagine it's at least taught in school.. I would think there are several here tho that can actually answer that question with some authority.

dotcommakers · 02-20-2005, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by dgridley

Amongst the upper classes in particular, I suspect english is widely spoken as a second language (having been under British rule for many years).. in the lower classes, I'd imagine it's at least taught in school.. I would think there are several here tho that can actually answer that question with some authority.

yes indian English is better than other non english countries and its like second language widely spoken in india

mole · 02-20-2005, 11:47 PM

कम्प्यूटर, मूल रूप से, नंबरों से सम्बंध रखते हैं। ये प्रत्येक अक्षर और वर्ण के लिए एक नंबर निर्धारित करके अक्षर और वर्ण संग्रहित करते हैं। यूनिकोड का आविष्कार होने से पहले, ऐसे नंबर देने के लिए सैंकडों विभिन्न संकेत लिपि प्रणालियां थीं। किसी एक संकेत लिपि में पर्याप्त अक्षर नहीं हो सकते हैं : उदाहरण के लिए, यूरोपिय संघ को अकेले ही, अपनी सभी भाषाऒं को कवर करने के लिए अनेक विभिन्न संकेत लिपियों की आवश्यकता होती है। अंग्रेजी जैसी भाषा के लिए भी, सभी अक्षरों, विरामचिन्हों और सामान्य प्रयोग के तकनीकी प्रतीकों हेतु एक ही संकेत लिपि पर्याप्त नहीं थी।

ये संकेत लिपि प्रणालियां परस्पर विरोधी भी हैं। इसीलिए, दो संकेत लिपियां दो विभिन्न अक्षरों के लिए, एक ही नंबर प्रयोग कर सकती हैं, अथवा समान अक्षर के लिए विभिन्न नम्बरों का प्रयोग कर सकती हैं। किसी भी कम्प्यूटर (विशेष रूप से सर्वर) को विभिन्न संकेत लिपियां संभालनी पड़ती है; फिर भी जब दो विभिन्न संकेत लिपियों अथवा प्लैटफॉर्मों के बीच डाटा भेजा जाता है तो उस डाटा के हमेशा खराब होने का जोखिम रहता है।

dgridley · 02-21-2005, 12:01 AM

Thanks for the input..

Originally Posted by dotcommakers

yes indian English is better than other non english countries and its like second language widely spoken in india

dotcommakers · 02-21-2005, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by mole

कम्प्यूटर, मूल रूप से, नंबरों से सम्बंध रखते हैं। ये प्रत्येक अक्षर और वर्ण के लिए एक नंबर निर्धारित करके अक्षर और वर्ण संग्रहित करते हैं। यूनिकोड का आविष्कार होने से पहले, ऐसे नंबर देने के लिए सैंकडों विभिन्न संकेत लिपि प्रणालियां थीं। किसी एक संकेत लिपि में पर्याप्त अक्षर नहीं हो सकते हैं : उदाहरण के लिए, यूरोपिय संघ को अकेले ही, अपनी सभी भाषाऒं को कवर करने के लिए अनेक विभिन्न संकेत लिपियों की आवश्यकता होती है। अंग्रेजी जैसी भाषा के लिए भी, सभी अक्षरों, विरामचिन्हों और सामान्य प्रयोग के तकनीकी प्रतीकों हेतु एक ही संकेत लिपि पर्याप्त नहीं थी।
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/cctld-discussion/71213-for-all-those-speculating-in-in.html

ये संकेत लिपि प्रणालियां परस्पर विरोधी भी हैं। इसीलिए, दो संकेत लिपियां दो विभिन्न अक्षरों के लिए, एक ही नंबर प्रयोग कर सकती हैं, अथवा समान अक्षर के लिए विभिन्न नम्बरों का प्रयोग कर सकती हैं। किसी भी कम्प्यूटर (विशेष रूप से सर्वर) को विभिन्न संकेत लिपियां संभालनी पड़ती है; फिर भी जब दो विभिन्न संकेत लिपियों अथवा प्लैटफॉर्मों के बीच डाटा भेजा जाता है तो उस डाटा के हमेशा खराब होने का जोखिम रहता है।

man let me say how you have write hindi ....

plz tell me ....

-db- · 02-21-2005, 12:52 AM

All I see is a bunch of question marks in that post.

"??????????????? ???? ????? ?? ??????? ?????"

Hmmm....

Binfus · 02-21-2005, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by dgridley

For all those speculating or rationalizing your .IN purchases, take a look at this article entitled India: Knowledge Superpower over at New Scientist:

http://www.newscientist.com/special/india

Thanks for the link/article....inspired me to get myself Brainpower.IN.....

LeDomain · 02-21-2005, 02:41 AM

Thanks for pointing out the article...Biggest thing about today's India and about 20 years ago is the OPTIMISM among the youngsters...

In the cities you will easily get by with English... and there are many....
English is so rooted in India education system that it is accessible even in some of the remote villages...

Gregoire · 02-21-2005, 07:08 AM

Hi all,

Dgridley : Thx for the link, very interesting.

I have invested some money on .in and .co.in English keywords

Why ? I know India a little bit since I have been there 5 times (that's approx. 4 months in India alltogether) and I'm convinced people who use/will use internet do speak English.

Moreover, Indians do not only live in India ... and I'm nearly sure that these Indians speak English too.

Concerning .co.in, I have a "proof" that it is already known/used by Indian websurfers : I have some type-ins (Not much but one of them receives approx. 15 visits a day) on some of my names.

Grégoire.

PE-Steve · 02-21-2005, 07:11 AM

i don't think .in's are even going to be worth that much

dgridley · 02-21-2005, 07:17 AM

Thanks, everyone, for your comments.. keep them coming! I really admire the Indian drive for success!

Binfus · 02-21-2005, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by stevegarbz

i don't think .in's are even going to be worth that much

People usually offer some basis for their opinions....your'e seem to be like "because I said so"....

Virgil · 02-21-2005, 10:46 AM

I believe .in domains have a bright future ahead.

dgridley · 02-23-2005, 08:21 AM

Here's something else I found:

"Ten years ago, the United States was the country with the largest English-speaking population. Today, India has taken over that status. With roughly a third of its population – or more than 300 million – possessing English language capability, India has more people speaking the language than the US and UK combined. Indian English, however, is not entirely the same as British or American English, as it has been influenced by indigenous linguistics through the years. In addition, contemporary Indian pop culture – most notably movies – adds even more new elements to the Indian English language. At the same time, notes the author, local tribal languages are being preserved with care; for example, many companies nowadays offer different language options for customers. In that sense, India has a lot to teach the world. – YaleGlobal"
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=71213

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=4947

sharapov · 02-24-2005, 11:33 AM

They will have bright future after 10-12 years only...

Jammer · 02-24-2005, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by dgridley

Here's something else I found:

"Ten years ago, the United States was the country with the largest English-speaking population. Today, India has taken over that status. With roughly a third of its population – or more than 300 million – possessing English language capability, India has more people speaking the language than the US and UK combined. Indian English, however, is not entirely the same as British or American English, as it has been influenced by indigenous linguistics through the years. In addition, contemporary Indian pop culture – most notably movies – adds even more new elements to the Indian English language. At the same time, notes the author, local tribal languages are being preserved with care; for example, many companies nowadays offer different language options for customers. In that sense, India has a lot to teach the world. – YaleGlobal"

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=4947

India also has a 59.5% literacy rate.
Average income is approx $2,900...that's not a lot of disposable income.
25 % of the population lives below the poverty line.
60% of the population works in agriculture.
Personally not too sure where the .in buyers will be coming from.

equity78 · 02-24-2005, 03:48 PM

That is a good counterbalance Jammer good post, those still are big numbers 30% of India is the US or Europe In its entirety.

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mole Insectivora Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under Ground Posts: 2,164	कम्प्यूटर, मूल रूप से, नंबरों से सम्बंध रखते हैं। ये प्रत्येक अक्षर और वर्ण के लिए एक नंबर निर्धारित करके अक्षर और वर्ण संग्रहित करते हैं। यूनिकोड का आविष्कार होने से पहले, ऐसे नंबर देने के लिए सैंकडों विभिन्न संकेत लिपि प्रणालियां थीं। किसी एक संकेत लिपि में पर्याप्त अक्षर नहीं हो सकते हैं : उदाहरण के लिए, यूरोपिय संघ को अकेले ही, अपनी सभी भाषाऒं को कवर करने के लिए अनेक विभिन्न संकेत लिपियों की आवश्यकता होती है। अंग्रेजी जैसी भाषा के लिए भी, सभी अक्षरों, विरामचिन्हों और सामान्य प्रयोग के तकनीकी प्रतीकों हेतु एक ही संकेत लिपि पर्याप्त नहीं थी। ये संकेत लिपि प्रणालियां परस्पर विरोधी भी हैं। इसीलिए, दो संकेत लिपियां दो विभिन्न अक्षरों के लिए, एक ही नंबर प्रयोग कर सकती हैं, अथवा समान अक्षर के लिए विभिन्न नम्बरों का प्रयोग कर सकती हैं। किसी भी कम्प्यूटर (विशेष रूप से सर्वर) को विभिन्न संकेत लिपियां संभालनी पड़ती है; फिर भी जब दो विभिन्न संकेत लिपियों अथवा प्लैटफॉर्मों के बीच डाटा भेजा जाता है तो उस डाटा के हमेशा खराब होने का जोखिम रहता है। __________________ If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Sir Francis Bacon

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dgridley NamePros Legend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 18,396 Follow @davew3b	Here's something else I found: "Ten years ago, the United States was the country with the largest English-speaking population. Today, India has taken over that status. With roughly a third of its population – or more than 300 million – possessing English language capability, India has more people speaking the language than the US and UK combined. Indian English, however, is not entirely the same as British or American English, as it has been influenced by indigenous linguistics through the years. In addition, contemporary Indian pop culture – most notably movies – adds even more new elements to the Indian English language. At the same time, notes the author, local tribal languages are being preserved with care; for example, many companies nowadays offer different language options for customers. In that sense, India has a lot to teach the world. – YaleGlobal" ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=71213 http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=4947 __________________ davew3b tumblr blog \| davew3b posterous blog

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