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Old 02-07-2008, 07:47 PM   ˇ #1
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The Official L-L.ca Countdown

Few facts first:

- LLL.ca were bought out on 10-10-2007 and now go for low $xxx min in snapnames
- NNN.ca were bought out around the same time
- There are currently 273 L-L.ca available out of 676
- LL.ca's are now selling for $x,xxx-$xx,xxx
- You need to have Canadian presence to register .ca - e.g. be a Canadian resident, have a Canadian company, or have someone in Canada register these for you.

Here's the list, many of these are premiums

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Now, I'm not a big fan of hyphens, but seeing as the min price for L-L.com is now at about 30% of LLL.com, eventually the L-L.ca should have value too..

* No guarantees, register at your own risk


A small countdown, but post your predictions, when will they be gone?

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Old 02-07-2008, 09:19 PM   ˇ #2
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:11 AM   ˇ #3
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A small countdown, but post your predictions, when will they be gone?



Depends on how much hype happens on the different forums IMO, just like the other buyouts

Considering how many people can't reg .ca names, it'll take a good couple of months, unless someone does a big buyout.
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:00 AM   ˇ #4
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They will all be gone April 6/08, I should put that available list up on l-l.ca maybe they would sell out quicker with a little promotion.

Thanks for posting the list.
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:56 AM   ˇ #5
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Thanks for the list Michael!
Just registered about 20 of them and a few more beforehand
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if .ca didnt have such anal rules i would have nailed a load ages ago

not worth grief for me to nail some. BUT these represent a huge potential roi for people nailing at regfee imo

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I took about 9 out of your last scan. I think I was registering while you did the scan. Thank you for the list.

This is great, let's buy it out!!!
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"Down to 237 left" - less - just can't stop myself from registering a bit more!
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I for one am surprised to see so much action on these. Most are a sit and wait investment. Good deals can still be found on LLL.ca's - the vast majority of which are not developed and just parked. Although, most L-L.com's are in use. That's my opinion on L-L.ca's and I could be missing the boat... only time will tell!
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Agreed, if they didn't have those stupid restrictions of just people in Canada being able to reg, they'd be long gone.
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234 available, looks like all premiums are gone, check the latest list here
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I grabbed a handful of premium L-L.ca's back in mid 07, no plans to register anymore but I do see overall potential as many of the .com counterparts are being used by end users as acronym's for their company names.

I'd say if you missed the LLL.ca boat, jump on these.
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Agreed, if they didn't have those stupid restrictions of just people in Canada being able to reg, they'd be long gone.



The restrictions are anything but "stupid". They give the namespace a sense of identity and proof of ownership. When I as a Canadian shop on the net I am far more likely to spend my money on a .ca website than most others because I know that I most likely dealing with a Canadian. This gives me much more legal recourse and peace of mind. Canadians are huge online shoppers - to do away with the restrictions would completely dilute the trust Canadians have in dot ca.

I would never in a million years want the namespace opened up. It would only benefit domain name resellers and nobody else. It would harm all those doing business on a .ca and that monetary value dwarfs the reseller market by a very large margin. In 2005 Canadians spent nearly $8 billion online - that number is growing by 30%+ every year.
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Originally Posted by whitebark
The restrictions are anything but "stupid". They give the namespace a sense of identity and proof of ownership. When I as a Canadian shop on the net I am far more likely to spend my money on a .ca website than most others because I know that I most likely dealing with a Canadian. This gives me much more legal recourse and peace of mind. Canadians are huge online shoppers - to do away with the restrictions would completely dilute the trust Canadians have in dot ca.

I would never in a million years want the namespace opened up. It would only benefit domain name resellers and nobody else. It would harm all those doing business on a .ca and that monetary value dwarfs the reseller market by a very large margin. In 2005 Canadians spent nearly $8 billion online - that number is growing by 30%+ every year.




it hasn't done .co.uk and .de any harm

the two most popular cctlds and dare i say prosperous online societies in europe.
consumers in uk and germany are incredibly web savvy and have high expectations.

i understand what you kind of mean. but if a scammer wants to scam, by their nature thay can easy reg a a .ca, and give a false address, plus i doubt the public are aware that only .ca can be regged by canadians

i'm surprised you really think you dont want it opened up as it would help values of .ca's
after all canada has a very small population
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It helps resellers yes - when opening it up. But it hurts others doing commercial business on the domain space. I would like to believe that the major corporations doing business in Canada have wisely looked over their marketing/advertising projections when buying .ca domains. They know Canadians identify with their own cctld and that's why they so readily use it in this market. The trust factor is there in spades in this country.

The biggest users of .ca domains for 'outside the box' uses are the car companies. I couldn't even count all the different .ca domains they are using for their products. They use them for short-term marketing campaigns, promotions and contests. Car companies are usually pretty good at being early-adapters to a market and this correlates directly to their ready uptake of the .ca domain for this market.

I also have never seen any hard numbers but I would surmise most Canadians if asked would say a .ca is for Canadians only. As time goes by that number of course would only get higher.

Keep it closed - and besides - the .ca is bringing better and better prices each month without having it opened up. Sure it's slower than it would be otherwise, but the potential benefit does not outweigh the risks imo. I'd rather earn less on reselling and earn more on development, as that's where the real money is anyways.
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I for one am surprised to see so much action on these. Most are a sit and wait investment. Good deals can still be found on LLL.ca's - the vast majority of which are not developed and just parked. Although, most L-L.com's are in use. That's my opinion on L-L.ca's and I could be missing the boat... only time will tell!




I think the L-L are great cause you they have many different uses - it's just 2 letters so there may be hundreds of absolutely different uses for each of them, and this increase your chance to find end user or develop it the way you want.

Btw, can someone post an update of remaining L-L?

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I think the L-L are great cause you they have many different uses - it's just 2 letters so there may be hundreds of absolutely different uses for each of them, and this increase your chance to find end user or develop it the way you want.

Btw, can someone post an update of remaining L-L?

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228 remaining now. Registrations have slowed down it looks.

All premium letter names are taken, but here are the remaining L-L.ca's with one premium letter and 'u':


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p-u.ca
u-b.ca
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