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Old 01-11-2008, 03:21 AM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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Are .in/.co.in domains really selling?


There has been a lot of hype about .in and .co.in domains, but the question is, are they really selling, there seem to be too many being registered vs those being sold.
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Lots of bad registrations but the sales are here:
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When Indians get rich, they will buy those .in domains back. Let's wait and see

Originally Posted by fojames
There has been a lot of hype about .in and .co.in domains, but the question is, are they really selling, there seem to be too many being registered vs those being sold.
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I think only the real premiums are selling...

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I don't get any offers.
I had faith in the extension but now I am doubting it...
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1) Poker.in $60,000 (Domain Round Table Auction, August 2007)
2) Mails.in $24,000 (Sedo. 2005)
3) Searching.in $22,000 (Private Sale. Unknown, 2006)
4) Linkshare.in 10,000 GBP ($19,755) (Sedo. 10th Jan. 2007)
5) Webcam.in £9,200 GBP ($18,299) (Sedo. 8th May 2007)
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7) 123.in $7,500 (Sedo. August 18th 2007)
8) Hollywood.co.in $7000 (Sedo. 6th June, 2006)
9) Blackjack.in €4,000 = $5,255 (Sedo. 25th Jan, 2007)
10) Lotto.in $5000 (Sedo. 20th Sep. 2006)

Com.co.in $5000 (Namepros, 28th Sep. 2007)
VDO.co.in €3275 = $4816 (Sedo. 28th Nov 2007)
magaz.in $4000 (Sedo. 5th Sep. 2007)
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Mobilephones.in €2,550.00 = $3,320 (Sedo. 13th Feb. 2007)
Link.in $3300 (Sedo. 11th Nov. 2007)
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Zoom.in $3000 (Sedo. 4th Nov. 2006)
Link.in $3000 (Sedo. 4th Dec. 2007)
Poker.in $2650
WAP.in $2500 (Sedo. 14th Feb. 2006)
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Businessweek.in $2500 (Sedo. Dec. 2007)
SRK.Co.in $2500 (Sedo. 13th Sept., 2006)
Get.in $2345 (Sedo. 13th June, 2007)
Hardware.co.in $2188 (Private Sale. 28th March, 2006.)
Marketplace.in €1,500 = $1,947 (Feb., 2007)
SRK.in €1600 ($2045 - Sedo)
MWV.in $2000 (Sedo. 10th Jan., 2007)
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Tuned.in $2000 (Sedo. 1st Nov, 2007)
KIM.in €1600 ($1969)
MobilePhones.in €1500 ($1932)
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Online-pharmacy.co.in $1672 (Sedo. 23rd May, 2006)
Vacation.in $1562 (Sedo. 14th March, 2006)
Livescore.in $1550 (Sedo. 5th Mar., 2007)
News.co.in $1500 (DNForum - later resold for more)
Greaterhyderabad.in $1500 (Sedo. 15th May, 2007)
WebSense.in $1500 (Sedo. 4th Dec., 2006)
Mango.in $1500 (Sedo. 5th May, 2007)
Sportsbook.in $1,395 Afternic
11mbit.in $1,395 Sedo (Sedo. 11th April, 2007)
ING.in $1350 (Sedo. 19th Jan, 2007)
OnlineBanking.in €1000 ($1280 )
HotMovies.co.in $1,250 (Sedo, Feb. 2007)
IGO.in $1210 (Sedo. 4th April, 2006)
Banking.co.in $1200
Tuning.in €1000 ($1170)
Urlaub.in $1115 (EBay. 23rd May, 2006)
Pokerinfo.in €850 ($1114) (Sedo. 5th March, 2007)
Vijayawada.in $1100
Bain.in $1000
Wap.co.in $1000 (Sedo. 1st Feb, 2007)
Like.co.in $1000 (Sedo. 9th Nov, 2006)
E-bay.in $1000 (Sedo. 9th Jan, 2007)
Parrot.in $1000 (Afternic. 28th Feb 2007)
Oscar.in $1000 (Sedo, 18th, Feb. 2007)
Escort.in $1000 (Sedo, 7th, May 2007)
Xmas.in 750 Euros ($973)
Pune.in $954 Sedo
Telecom.in €700 Euros ($882)
Designed.in $750
Getme.in $700
Credit.co.in $650
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Azureus.in $600 (Sedo. 6th Dec, 2006)
MedicalTourism.in $600 (Sedo. 29th Apr, 2007)
Cream.in $600 (Sedo. 9th Apr, 2007)
MedicalTourism.in $600 (Sedo. 2nd May, 2007)
Vin.in £310 ($600) (Sedo. 6th Jan, 2007)
Physics.co.in $565
3000.in $550
Cameras.co.in $550
Present.in $540
present.in 410 EUR ($539) (Sedo. 19th Dec, 2006)
Webmasters.in $500
Hey.co.in 400$
Tox.in €300 Euros ($392) (Sedo. 17th Dec, 2006)
Mathematics $350
Trucks.co.in $350
HipHop.co.in $350
FAQ.co.in $350
Sick.in $333 Sedo
ExchangeOffers.in $325.64 EBay
OnlinePoker.co.in $300
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Exercise.co.in $250
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Investor.co.in $250
pPyaar.co.in 250$
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you need to give .co.in + .in between 2-5years to see anything tangible i think. Thats why you need to reg those .co.in(s) for $10 at whiz.in(or wherever has the same prices) because you will need to give these names sometime, and you might as well purchase it fora few years for cheaper(while their promos are going on). On the other hand, if you are not willing to pay $10 for a .co.in or $16 for the .in, then you have a poor name, in an underdog extension.

Also, if your .co.in(s) and or .in(s) are getting traffic and revenue, waiting is not so boring or expensive
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Originally Posted by hostingsearch
When Indians get rich
When do you think that will be? The irony is that most foreigners think of all of us as living in slums... you'll be well served in looking at the list of the world's richest men. At least three in the top 10 are Indians... Mukesh Ambani (#1), Lakshmi Mittal, Kumarmangalam Birla & Ratan Tata are people of note.
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I think only the real premiums are selling...
True for any extension unless you're doing the marketing imho. See the .us thread I started. I can't get $27 for my .us while people are negotiating 6 figure sales

Originally Posted by kemjika11
Also, if your .co.in(s) and or .in(s) are getting traffic and revenue, waiting is not so boring or expensive
Too true
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you forgot Anil Ambani man he would soon be overtaking Mukesh
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you forgot Anil Ambani man he would soon be overtaking Mukesh
He's sharp but I don't think so.

Mukesh got the chunk of the estate... Anil got the rest.

Anil has almost caught up and that is commendable.
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When do you think that will be? The irony is that most foreigners think of all of us as living in slums... you'll be well served in looking at the list of the world's richest men. At least three in the top 10 are Indians... Mukesh Ambani (#1), Lakshmi Mittal, Kumarmangalam Birla & Ratan Tata are people of note.
Do you really think that this wealth is sustainable? They are primarily riding on a stock market boom, a lot of which can be attributed to a media movement promoting the Indian economy.

Look at the list of top 100 brands in the world. Not a single Indian brand in there.
In contrast, Japan has several such brands (Toyota, Honda, Sony, etc.) in the top 100 list, but less billionaires than India. Brands require time and sustainability to build; stock based wealth does not.
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Yes, we are getting rich, but not at the rate it appears. There has been no real reduction in the number of people living in poverty.
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Three richest men (or even 30 or 300 or 3000) are not representative of millions of people living in India. I think if we want to sell to end-users, generally they will care about those millions... not a small percentage of rich people who are Indian.

And when I said "only the real premiums are selling", I mean something like poker.in.

For example, meteor.com is worth at the very least $x,xxx.
But I cannot sell meteor.in for even $75.

The keyword has to be Real Premium.
Or at least, matches the extension / can be used as a domain hack.
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Do you really think that this wealth is sustainable?
Yes. Its not only stock based, stock based wealth due to strong essentials. One of the major reasons that the stock market is where it is that foreign companies find the Indian Elephant a joy to ride.
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Look at the list of top 100 brands in the world. Not a single Indian brand in there.
Top 100 consumer brands... probably not, but there are tons of verticals where Indian brands do list in the top 10.

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There has been no real reduction in the number of people living in poverty.
There has been - I agree disparity has increased at places... but when I got out of college the pay I was offered as a BE was about 1/3rd of what a new grad gets today.
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Originally Posted by HappyBunny
For example, meteor.com is worth at the very least $x,xxx.
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But I cannot sell meteor.in for even $75.
Question ... have you thought carefully about meteor.in?

Is it really valuable? What kind of business could use it?

Simply having a dictionary keyword is not enough. It needs a real business purpose.
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There is a lot of media hype, people forget that infrastructure is extremely poor. Even in parts of large cities like Mumbai there is no electricity for 3-5 hours daily.
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Heard of eChoupal by ITC? Look it up. Their computers run on car batteries and even cycle power and cows churning the dynamo.

It has increased the sale price of produce by about 20% for the farmers... at least where it's been implemented. Thats the grassroots level of involvement we need - and it is leading to improvements in poverty levels too.
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Is it really valuable? What kind of business could use it?

Simply having a dictionary keyword is not enough. It needs a real business purpose.
When I bought the name, .in was being hyped by people in the forums... So yeah, I was rather foolish in choosing the names. I did not think about its use for business.

Actually it could be nicely developed for meteor sightings website.
http : // meteor.in / place_name

But that's not my point...
My point is, to sell for big money you have to own something like poker.in.
The names are selling but generally only the Premium ones.

This is to answer the original question,
"are they really selling, there seem to be too many being registered vs those being sold."
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Question ... have you thought carefully about meteor.in?

Is it really valuable? What kind of business could use it?

Simply having a dictionary keyword is not enough. It needs a real business purpose.

That Ekal is sharp! I have made this mistakes many times. Regged a .in , or .co.in because it was a "great dictionary word". That doesn't guarantee any sales by itself. As you say Ekal (secret secret code name!), it need a business purpose. So, members, remember that when regging! When you register it, do you really think you are the first to find it, or others have passed it by, or let it expire? IMHO

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Very true, Frank (and ekal too!)

"Business purpose."

I think I have learned my lesson now.

Especially for some extensions that are not mature yet...
That business purpose is really important.

- Will there be demand for such names? Now? In one year? Two years?
- Renewal fees vs Sale prices -- still profitable?
- How do I contact the potential buyers?

It is just common business sense really, something I am lacking, especially when .in was hyped much in the forums...
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I don't get any offers.
I had faith in the extension but now I am doubting it...
Same boat buddy.
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I have successfully sold many .in and .co.in domains.

Pricing should be right. Take decent profits and sell them. If prices are too much chances are that they won't sell.

Sales also depend on the quality of the name on offer. Their demand vs. supply.
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.IN is still 'hyped' but as an investment (long-term) not as short-term speculation.
You could likely make a 25%-100% return on recent LLL regs!

Think of the people who regret dropping generics and LLL.COM in the mid-late 90's or even during the 'dot com bubble burst'.

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HappyBunny, James... here's a suggestion -
$13 x 5 = $65, spend that on renewing the domain.

Within 5 yrs I guarantee you you'll sell it for more than $300, even dictionary words without apparent 'business' purpose. Today there is a glut in the market. Basic economic principles of demand and supply apply everywhere.

I'm unable to sell great cvcv.mobi today for 2x, I'm sure if I renew for a few years I'll be rejecting offers at what LLL.mobi is today.

Originally Posted by godolphin
I have successfully sold many .in and .co.in domains.
I know I've bought a few from you and ekal.

Originally Posted by godolphin
Pricing should be right. Take decent profits and sell them.
Correct, concentrate on ROI and you can't loose. I've sold domains worth much more at 3x... just to maintain a positive cash flow.
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