PC system #1 - POLL

vip-ip · 08-05-2005, 10:49 PM

I am planning on starting a custom PC building / shipping business, where people order systems built by me for their original cost + shipping + build fee. Say, how much would you pay for this system? Imagine you have a $2,000 budget for a kick@$$ PC machine, and here are my specs: what would be appropriate for you and what would be the most you'd pay for this:

Case: Kingwin Silver Mutant X Gaming ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/business-development/113041-pc-system-1-poll.html
Motherboard: Mach Speed Venom V2DP Via Socket A ATX Motherboard / Audio / AGP 4x / 10/100 Ethernet LAN / USB 2.0
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.0E Prescott 800MHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 478 Processor
RAM: 2 x Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 333 (1GB total)
Video card: Radeon 9600XT 256MB 128-bit
Hard drive - 200GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L200M0
Floppy - Mitsumi 3.5" 1.44MB Floppy Drive
CD/DVD: LG Black 48X CD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM DVD-ROM Drive Model GDR-8163B
Keyboard + Mouse: Logitech Cordless Desktop Optical
Speakers: Logitech S-100 BLK 5 Watts RMS 2.0 Speakers
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (installed)
Monitor: Acer AL1912 / 19" 500:1 contrast
Printer: Z615 Inkjet Printer - FREE with the system as a complimentary bonus!

Vote please :-)

jeter4982 · 08-06-2005, 05:38 AM

I would probably pay around $1200, perhaps a bit more...

Tom

Amnezia · 08-06-2005, 06:09 AM

i wouldnt pay much for a custom pc

vip-ip · 08-06-2005, 11:46 AM

I try to get my prices to be lower than Dell's and have at least 20% profit at the same time, which is HARD with a monitor which is like 20% of the cost of the system :/

majinbuu1023 · 08-06-2005, 04:44 PM

I would pay 1500USD(cos thats the pc I have been looking for) if I had it except I would get you to switch that ethernet thingy to a 56k modem

oops I mean 1500NZD which is about 1200USD

barefoottech · 08-07-2005, 04:06 PM

Hate tell you this Vasily , but That is not a Kick -ass System these days
and Dell Sell similiar for $1200 AUD about 900USD In Aust.
Don't know the US Price. for Same system
You can Buy Better Spec ACER Laptops under 1500AUD

Dell make thousands of PC"s Monthly ,No one can compete unless their name is Gateway ,Acer or Someone that size

Dell and other major PC assemblers deal in system deals with as little as 2% - 5% Margins

vip-ip · 08-07-2005, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Barefoottech

Hate tell you this Vasily , but That is not a Kick -ass System these days
and Dell Sell similiar for $1200 AUD about 900USD In Aust.
Don't know the US Price. for Same system
You can Buy Better Spec ACER Laptops under 1500AUD

Dell make thousands of PC"s Monthly ,No one can compete unless their name is Gateway ,Acer or Someone that size

Dell and other major PC assemblers deal in system deals with as little as 2% - 5% Margins

I understand it's not the

system nowadays, although it's more than enough for a gamer these days, and it will be enough for about 2-3 years. I have contacts with reliable suppliers for cheap computer hardware, so I thought I can try something there.

majinbuu1023 · 08-07-2005, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by vip-ip

Originally Posted by Barefoottech

Hate tell you this Vasily , but That is not a Kick -ass System these days
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=113041
and Dell Sell similiar for $1200 AUD about 900USD In Aust.
Don't know the US Price. for Same system
You can Buy Better Spec ACER Laptops under 1500AUD

Dell make thousands of PC"s Monthly ,No one can compete unless their name is Gateway ,Acer or Someone that size

Dell and other major PC assemblers deal in system deals with as little as 2% - 5% Margins

I understand it's not the

system nowadays, although it's more than enough for a gamer these days, and it will be enough for about 2-3 years. I have contacts with reliable suppliers for cheap computer hardware, so I thought I can try something there.

do you know where to get a cheap DESKTOP pc with a warranty? and shipping to new zealand

vip-ip · 08-07-2005, 05:44 PM

Dell.com

Sergio965 · 08-07-2005, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by vip-ip

I understand it's not the

system nowadays, although it's more than enough for a gamer these days, and it will be enough for about 2-3 years. I have contacts with reliable suppliers for cheap computer hardware, so I thought I can try something there.

I, being a gamer, don't see this system as "More than enough", and it will certainly not last 2-3 year. Maybe a year, but not more than 2 years. The video card is pretty good, but there's better. The processor - there's a lot better. (Especially that Pentium D Series

)

But, if you plan to sell to just regular people and not people that know much about computers, then you might have something going on

vip-ip · 08-07-2005, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by sergio965

I, being a gamer, don't see this system as "More than enough", and it will certainly not last 2-3 year. Maybe a year, but not more than 2 years. The video card is pretty good, but there's better. The processor - there's a lot better. (Especially that Pentium D Series

)

But, if you plan to sell to just regular people and not people that know much about computers, then you might have something going on

With a 3GHZ processor and 1Gb ram I can't think of any modern game that won't run on this. And with a 19" LCD monitor and a 500 contrast ratio the colors are vivd and very... umm... colorful

barefoottech · 08-07-2005, 08:24 PM

What is a Gamer ??

vip-ip · 08-07-2005, 08:45 PM

Gamer is remaG backwards

axilant · 08-07-2005, 09:10 PM

IMO, why not have a database of parts? (Use pricewatch.com), and basicly let the user choose what they want, have a $50 build fee, having a shipping and handling fee ext... thats how i would do it...

vip-ip · 08-07-2005, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by axilant

IMO, why not have a database of parts? (Use pricewatch.com), and basicly let the user choose what they want, have a $50 build fee, having a shipping and handling fee ext... thats how i would do it...

I thought about it, and pricewatch is exactly where I find the lowest prices on hardware
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=113041
But making a pre-made system turns out to rake in more profit. Ex, with the cheapest parts on pricewatch this system would cost $960. As you can see, people are willing to pay $1100+ for it!

Sergio965 · 08-08-2005, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by vip-ip

With a 3GHZ processor and 1Gb ram I can't think of any modern game that won't run on this. And with a 19" LCD monitor and a 500 contrast ratio the colors are vivd and very... umm... colorful

Yea, I know, but I mean, I could have a 40000ghz Comp with a terabyte of ram, but if I have a 32mb video card, there's no way I'm going to be able to play Doom 3 now is there?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=113041

3ghz is pretty good right now, but, just wait a month or two, you're gonna find games needing atleast 256mb of vram (512 recommended), and unless you have a very fast Video Card, your going no where.

But, for about a year, it'll serve it's purpose.

DJ-Sound · 08-08-2005, 03:44 AM

I help run a business similar to what you want to start. We sell systems on average over $2k. You can basically pick any market you want in the custom computer business. But its usually impossible to compete with dell on prices (so usually not the general consumer market)

aween · 08-08-2005, 08:44 AM

intel sucks, use amd

vip-ip · 08-08-2005, 10:38 AM

Yes, competing with Dell is impossible, so IMO atm the only way to make this business profitable is to sell dream-machine type computers with 6GHZ processors, 2 video cards, 5GB ram, the top-of-the-line motherboard,

sound system etc. And maybe even 2 monitors (as featured in September's MaximumPC

)

adam_uk · 08-08-2005, 10:49 AM

going by the attachment and current exchange rate i would pay just over $1400

its not even a kick arse system and the monitor is probably the worst ever.

Quote:

With a 3GHZ processor and 1Gb ram I can't think of any modern game that won't run on this. And with a 19" LCD monitor and a 500 contrast ratio the colors are vivd and very... umm... colorful

in todays standards the graphics card youve put in it isnt very good imho. and yes the games might run with that system but they wont run very well at all. and certianly wont last 2-3 years.

i have a 3.4ghz system, 1mb cache, pcie, ati-radeon x800 pcie 256mb, 1gb ddr 3200, dual channel mode, windows xp sp2, latest drivers, sata drive and in half life 2 i get 40fps max and in some cases drops to 10-20

your also using old chip technologys, if you want to allow your customers the freedom to upgrade as and when the tech suits them id look at pci-e chips / systems.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=113041

and btw all prices are current from: http://www.scan.co.uk

vip-ip · 08-08-2005, 11:01 AM

Here's a similar system from pricewatch from the cheapest sellers with links.

mituozo · 09-02-2005, 10:45 AM

I would reccommend focusing on AMD based systems, that's the way you can pimp dell. For example, the AMD 64 X2's, intel don't have an equivelent out yet. Dell can't use AMD parts in building their PCs, since they have an agreement with intel. By using the dual core AMD systems as a niche, (very useful for multi-tasking in the business world), you could get a lot of customers.

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Under $1000	3	18.75%
$1000-$1100	4	25.00%
$1101-$1200	3	18.75%
$1201-$1400	2	12.50%
$1400+	4	25.00%
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vip-ip Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: root@localhost Posts: 4,011	PC system #1 - POLL I am planning on starting a custom PC building / shipping business, where people order systems built by me for their original cost + shipping + build fee. Say, how much would you pay for this system? Imagine you have a $2,000 budget for a kick@$$ PC machine, and here are my specs: what would be appropriate for you and what would be the most you'd pay for this: Case: Kingwin Silver Mutant X Gaming ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/business-development/113041-pc-system-1-poll.html Motherboard: Mach Speed Venom V2DP Via Socket A ATX Motherboard / Audio / AGP 4x / 10/100 Ethernet LAN / USB 2.0 Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.0E Prescott 800MHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 478 Processor RAM: 2 x Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 333 (1GB total) Video card: Radeon 9600XT 256MB 128-bit Hard drive - 200GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L200M0 Floppy - Mitsumi 3.5" 1.44MB Floppy Drive CD/DVD: LG Black 48X CD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM DVD-ROM Drive Model GDR-8163B Keyboard + Mouse: Logitech Cordless Desktop Optical Speakers: Logitech S-100 BLK 5 Watts RMS 2.0 Speakers OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (installed) Monitor: Acer AL1912 / 19" 500:1 contrast Printer: Z615 Inkjet Printer - FREE with the system as a complimentary bonus! Vote please :-)

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barefoottech The MINISITE King Join Date: May 2005 Location: QTHR Posts: 4,593	Hate tell you this Vasily , but That is not a Kick -ass System these days and Dell Sell similiar for $1200 AUD about 900USD In Aust. Don't know the US Price. for Same system You can Buy Better Spec ACER Laptops under 1500AUD Dell make thousands of PC"s Monthly ,No one can compete unless their name is Gateway ,Acer or Someone that size Dell and other major PC assemblers deal in system deals with as little as 2% - 5% Margins __________________ Studio51 Sites! Often Copied Always Amazing Never Bettered.

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jeter4982 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT, USA Posts: 3,299	I would probably pay around $1200, perhaps a bit more... Tom

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vip-ip Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: root@localhost Posts: 4,011	I try to get my prices to be lower than Dell's and have at least 20% profit at the same time, which is HARD with a monitor which is like 20% of the cost of the system :/

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barefoottech The MINISITE King Join Date: May 2005 Location: QTHR Posts: 4,593	What is a Gamer ?? __________________ Studio51 Sites! Often Copied Always Amazing Never Bettered.

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vip-ip Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: root@localhost Posts: 4,011	Gamer is remaG backwards

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axilant Account Suspended Join Date: May 2004 Location: /etc/passwd Posts: 2,178	IMO, why not have a database of parts? (Use pricewatch.com), and basicly let the user choose what they want, have a $50 build fee, having a shipping and handling fee ext... thats how i would do it...

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DJ-Sound Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,812	I help run a business similar to what you want to start. We sell systems on average over $2k. You can basically pick any market you want in the custom computer business. But its usually impossible to compete with dell on prices (so usually not the general consumer market)

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vip-ip Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: root@localhost Posts: 4,011	Yes, competing with Dell is impossible, so IMO atm the only way to make this business profitable is to sell dream-machine type computers with 6GHZ processors, 2 video cards, 5GB ram, the top-of-the-line motherboard, sound system etc. And maybe even 2 monitors (as featured in September's MaximumPC )

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mituozo NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 81	I would reccommend focusing on AMD based systems, that's the way you can pimp dell. For example, the AMD 64 X2's, intel don't have an equivelent out yet. Dell can't use AMD parts in building their PCs, since they have an agreement with intel. By using the dual core AMD systems as a niche, (very useful for multi-tasking in the business world), you could get a lot of customers.

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