Report Completed Domain Name Sales Here - Page 115

siga · 11-04-2009, 10:50 AM

Stair / lifts.org sedo £750
picked up using josh's marketing lists

JoshuaPz · 11-04-2009, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by siga

Stair / lifts.org sedo £750
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/83628-report-completed-domain-name-sales-here.html
picked up using josh's marketing lists

Excellent sale on a .org domain! Well done.

garptrader · 11-04-2009, 02:41 PM

SEDO
GuiaBelleza.com $799 (beauty guide in Spanish)

Fold · 11-04-2009, 04:32 PM

DNinvestor.com sold for $1800 at sedo. Hope I didnt sell too cheaply.

***Soofi*** · 11-04-2009, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Fold

DNinvestor.com sold for $1800 at sedo. Hope I didnt sell too cheaply.

fair price IMO

b2b · 11-04-2009, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by garptrader

SEDO
GuiaBelleza.com $799 (beauty guide in Spanish)

Well done on this one!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628

Again, value is in the eye of the beholder...

FPForum · 11-04-2009, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Fold

DNinvestor.com sold for $1800 at sedo. Hope I didnt sell too cheaply.

I could have seen this going for more...but certainly not in this economy. I think that was a pretty fair sale. If both parties are happy then you can't go wrong

JoshuaPz · 11-05-2009, 03:25 AM

Energy / Crops () com - $1795 (GD Premium)

Picked for only mid $xx (NJ backorder) a few months back.

-Raja- · 11-05-2009, 03:31 AM

excellent sale!

congrats

Originally Posted by JoshuaPz

Energy / Crops () com - $1795 (GD Premium)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628

Picked for only mid $xx (NJ backorder) a few months back.

b2b · 11-05-2009, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by JoshuaPz

Energy / Crops () com - $1795 (GD Premium)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628

Picked for only mid $xx (NJ backorder) a few months back.

Nice one Josh!
You seem to be doing quite well with GD premium listings.
Do you list them at the 30% commission or higher?

AussieDomainer · 11-05-2009, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by JoshuaPz

Energy / Crops () com - $1795 (GD Premium)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628

Picked for only mid $xx (NJ backorder) a few months back.

Top sale Josh. My GD account rep has been onto me to talk to him about the GD premium listings and getting some domains in it. I'll have to find the time and get onto this by the looks.

garptrader · 11-05-2009, 09:24 AM

p.s. Regarding the recent Spanish .COM domain sale - I had a fixed price at SEDO but received a separate communication from the buyer with an initial offer about 40% below the price at SEDO. I felt the price was fair for a .COM but as the buyer approached me asking about "beauty" domains I offered a few others (.nets) at prices "within his budget." He seemed fixated on that particular domain though. I did some research and found the buyer was affiliated with a Spanish development firm with numerous high-profile web portals including Bodas (.) net. It also turns out they already held the .net equivalent of my domain and apparently wanted the .COM. I stood my ground on price through several back and forth emails. In the end they accepted my fixed price. I followed up afterwards congratulating the buyer and wishing them best of luck on their project (with a reference to my Spanish domain sales site). You never know - they might want to buy another domain in the future

tonecas · 11-05-2009, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by garptrader

IMO a hand reg placed at SEDO which sells for $200 in two years with no marketing effort might be an OK sale depending on the name. But if you spend hours scouring through drop lists to find a domain and hours contacting potential end users and only one out of twenty or more domains sells, $200 is a horrible sale. I have seen a few folks mention Jigsaw to obtain contact info. I stumbled across it recently as I am making a more concerted effort to find a contact inside the company other than merely rely on info@company.com. But if you pay $1 per contact for dozens of contacts before you make a $200 sale, those contact fees eat into your margin as well.

Note one thing I have found is that you can often find the name of the founder, management team, or executives either on the company website or via a Google search. Then you can try typing in the marketing director's name + company.com + email. Try the same with the CEO. Sometimes you can find the pattern of email addresses within a company. This may also be apparent with the Whois info. Using John Smith for example, it may be John.Smith@company.com or JSmith@company.com or John@company.com or JohnS@company.com etc. But if you can find one individual's email from that company you can often guess the email of the marketing contact. And of course you can check Google and see if your guess has any results...

i second that. i would also search in LinkedIn and Manta. and when sending emails by pattern guessing send another test email to a non-existent email just to check if your email is not beeing silent blocked/ignore by the target email server.

many times the info is on the net free of charge, specially when it comes to US citizens/companies.

regards,
tonecas

---------- Post added at 06:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:23 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Federer

Just sold UsedFoundry(dot)com for $1,500.

Picked up for reg fee last week.

i just love it

it is inspiring to see these kind of sales.

keep up Federer!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628

regards,
tonecas

Federer · 11-05-2009, 10:27 AM

Thanks, Tonecas...

Now looking for an buyer for my latest acquisitions: DVDDrive.com & DVDDrives.com

Jingles · 11-05-2009, 10:31 AM

Orgasm / Enhancement dot com $150.00

My gut still tells me too low, but the money allows me to do something else important so I guess all is good.

tonecas · 11-05-2009, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by siga

Stair / lifts.org sedo £750
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628
picked up using josh's marketing lists

very nice for a .org.
high paying keywords.

regards,
tonecas

JoshuaPz · 11-05-2009, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by AussieDomainer

Top sale Josh. My GD account rep has been onto me to talk to him about the GD premium listings and getting some domains in it. I'll have to find the time and get onto this by the looks.

Yes! I would very highly recommend listing as many domains as possible with GD premium (except maybe those you'd price at $1000+ reseller as you'd probably want to set these at "make offer" anywhere). GoDaddy takes a pretty fat commission -- always 30% now -- but GoDaddy premium domains get massive numbers of eyeballs from end-users who think they're paying an established company rather than an individual off the street. I simply price the domains on GD premium about 20% higher than the Sedo listings and 30% higher than those I'd cite via direct inquiry to compensate for the large commission so that the end-user bears most of it.

Speaking of which, another one of my GoDaddy premium listings, Pet / Passports () com sold for $995 a few minutes ago! That's two sweethearts in one day. The domain was a mid-$xx SnapNames drop-catch.

My "passive" sales volume since 3/20 has been divided as follows between 4 types of sources:

* GoDaddy Domain Buy Service: 2 sales for $1515 ($1475.00 after wire fees)
* Direct Inquiry: 6 sales for $5115 ($4910.40 after PayPal fees)
* Sedo: 9 sales for $5335 ($4801.50 after commissions)
* GoDaddy Premium: 10 sales for $8650 ($6055.00 after commissions)

So as of now with GoDaddy Premium I have made more "passive" sales for a larger sum than via any other method, even after commissions are deducted. This tells me that GoDaddy is earning their fair share off my premium listings -- 20% more end-user exposure than with Sedo yet selling for beyond 20% more in volume.

The only two issues I have with GD Premium are (1) You can't list domains that GD thinks are TM-infringing, even if in actuality they aren't (e.g. all LLLL.com I attempted to list were rejected), and (2) It takes a while -- about 2 month -- to receive your proceeds check. Still, I think it's pretty stupid not to list your non-premium

domains with GD Premium for 20% more than you have them listed for on Sedo. What have you got to lose?

tonecas · 11-05-2009, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Jingles

Orgasm / Enhancement dot com $150.00

My gut still tells me too low, but the money allows me to do something else important so I guess all is good.

i have some difficulties in evaluating adult domains but i share the same thougths. in the right eyes that could go to 1k. the spammers would love a site like that

regards,
tonecas

---------- Post added at 07:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 PM ----------

Originally Posted by JoshuaPz

Energy / Crops () com - $1795 (GD Premium)

Picked for only mid $xx (NJ backorder) a few months back.

very nice sale! i wouldn't give a dime for that just looking at a glance to the name and google info. well picked

Originally Posted by JoshuaPz

My "passive" sales volume since 3/20 has been divided as follows between 4 types of sources:

* GoDaddy Domain Buy Service: 2 sales for $1515 ($1475.00 after wire fees)
* Direct Inquiry: 6 sales for $5115 ($4910.40 after PayPal fees)
* Sedo: 8 sales for $5335 ($4801.50 after commissions)
* GoDaddy Premium: 10 sales for $8650 ($6055.00 after commissions)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628

So as of now with GoDaddy Premium I have made more "passive" sales for a larger sum than via any other method, even after commissions are deducted. This tells me that GoDaddy is earning their fair share off my premium listings -- 20% more end-user exposure than with Sedo yet selling for beyond 20% more in volume.

"passive" sales you mean you list them for sale in some place and don't contact any potential buyer correct? so the "Direct Inquiry" venue are contacts from buyers that you receive even if the domains are listed for sale in some place?

regards,
tonecas

JoshuaPz · 11-05-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

very nice sale! i wouldn't give a dime for that just looking at a glance to the name and google info. well picked

Thanks! The domain actually corresponds to an entire industry (check the Wikipedia entry) and I knew domainers would underrate it because Energy Crops are sort of their own, insular world. I use proprietary software to pinpoint such underrated domains but occasionally give software access to good people who request it.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628

Quote:

"passive" sales you mean you list them for sale in some place and don't contact any potential buyer correct? so the "Direct Inquiry" venue are contacts from buyers that you receive even if the domains are listed for sale in some place?

Correct on both counts. "Passive" means the other party initiates contact and "Active" means I pitched them first. "Direct Inquiry" means the end-user contacted me directly via e-mail or phone even if domain was listed on various venues. GD Premium are the most passive of passive sales because there's no negotiation or transfer work involved; GD takes care of everything.

garptrader · 11-05-2009, 12:27 PM

Thanks JoshuaPZ for sharing those sales stats. It is interesting to note how effective Godaddy's platform has been for you while you note no sales at AfternicDLS...

JoshuaPz · 11-05-2009, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by garptrader

Thanks JoshuaPZ for sharing those sales stats. It is interesting to note how effective Godaddy's platform has been for you while you note no sales at AfternicDLS...

I don't have any domains listed at AfternicDLS. Are they effective? I've heard mixed reports.

adinfinite · 11-05-2009, 02:02 PM

Hey Joshua, do you pitch end users under your real name or your company name? I noticed that end users respond differently when i send emails under my name as opposed to my LLc. Any thoughts on this?

xdomainer · 11-05-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by adinfinite

Hey Joshua, do you pitch end users under your real name or your company name? I noticed that end users respond differently when i send emails under my name as opposed to my LLc. Any thoughts on this?

Not to mention presenting yourself as a "group". I think people are more reluctant to sell to even a single individual with a business then someone from a business with many employees. And I don't mean just trust but how much they are willing to spend.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628

Josh signs his pitches with the term "institute". Great idea I think. My business website is clear I'm a go-at-it-alone person.

It's like in addition to the domain name and price you want to create a certain "aura" about yourself. Cultivate a feeling in the buyer. How do you put this in a formula?

JoshuaPz · 11-05-2009, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by adinfinite

Hey Joshua, do you pitch end users under your real name or your company name? I noticed that end users respond differently when i send emails under my name as opposed to my LLc. Any thoughts on this?

The ideal would probably be to build a polished website showcasing your portfolio and identify yourself as the owner of the company behind your website. Pick a memorable domain like AmazingDomains.com rather than MyReallyAwesomeDomains.com to build your portfolio on -- it's well worth the investment. I have not yet done this myself, believe it or not, but am on the verge of doing so as I feel this would help boost my credibility further. Talk to other successful end-user sellers with portfolio sites (bmugford, HuntingMoon, etc.) and ask them how they identify themselves to end-users.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=83628

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PORTFOLIO SITE:

From my experience, it's best to present yourself as a (highly educated) individual when dealing with other individuals or small businesses; this way you don't have to B.S. about having other employees, etc. When pitching to anything larger than a 7-person business, slip on the LLC facade as the business probably won't deal with you otherwise.

garptrader · 11-05-2009, 06:37 PM

JoshuaPZ you raise an interesting point regarding the email contact with an end user. Thus far I have used my personal email address which is what I use for my domain registrations. If they were to ever check the Whois, they would see a match. I do mention my primary sales website (English or Spanish) below my signature. But I could perhaps use info@DomainSalesSite.tld. It might sound more professional. Hmm....

11-04-2009, 02:41 PM	#2853 (permalink)
garptrader NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 857	SEDO GuiaBelleza.com $799 (beauty guide in Spanish) __________________ http://www.genericdomains.net/ http://www.dominericos.com/ http://www.premiumdomains.tv/

11-05-2009, 03:25 AM	#2858 (permalink)
JoshuaPz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,127	Energy / Crops () com - $1795 (GD Premium) Picked for only mid $xx (NJ backorder) a few months back. __________________ NameFlipper: Make $250/hour catching & reselling domains to end-users! (Soon-to-drop domains with sales leads, free end-user e-mail sales templates, and free pricing guide) DandyDomains.com: Discount exact-match domains, pre-screened to ensure quality, end-user need, and zero trademark conflicts.

11-05-2009, 09:24 AM	#2862 (permalink)
garptrader NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 857	p.s. Regarding the recent Spanish .COM domain sale - I had a fixed price at SEDO but received a separate communication from the buyer with an initial offer about 40% below the price at SEDO. I felt the price was fair for a .COM but as the buyer approached me asking about "beauty" domains I offered a few others (.nets) at prices "within his budget." He seemed fixated on that particular domain though. I did some research and found the buyer was affiliated with a Spanish development firm with numerous high-profile web portals including Bodas (.) net. It also turns out they already held the .net equivalent of my domain and apparently wanted the .COM. I stood my ground on price through several back and forth emails. In the end they accepted my fixed price. I followed up afterwards congratulating the buyer and wishing them best of luck on their project (with a reference to my Spanish domain sales site). You never know - they might want to buy another domain in the future __________________ http://www.genericdomains.net/ http://www.dominericos.com/ http://www.premiumdomains.tv/

11-05-2009, 10:27 AM	#2864 (permalink)
Federer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,358	Thanks, Tonecas... Now looking for an buyer for my latest acquisitions: DVDDrive.com & DVDDrives.com __________________ - KEY DOMAINS -

11-05-2009, 12:27 PM	#2870 (permalink)
garptrader NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 857	Thanks JoshuaPZ for sharing those sales stats. It is interesting to note how effective Godaddy's platform has been for you while you note no sales at AfternicDLS... __________________ http://www.genericdomains.net/ http://www.dominericos.com/ http://www.premiumdomains.tv/

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11-04-2009, 10:50 AM	#2851 (permalink)
siga Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,026	Stair / lifts.org sedo £750 picked up using josh's marketing lists

11-04-2009, 04:32 PM	#2854 (permalink)
Fold NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 39	DNinvestor.com sold for $1800 at sedo. Hope I didnt sell too cheaply.

11-05-2009, 10:31 AM	#2865 (permalink)
Jingles NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 760	Orgasm / Enhancement dot com $150.00 My gut still tells me too low, but the money allows me to do something else important so I guess all is good.

11-05-2009, 02:02 PM	#2872 (permalink)
adinfinite NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: FL & DC Posts: 392	Hey Joshua, do you pitch end users under your real name or your company name? I noticed that end users respond differently when i send emails under my name as opposed to my LLc. Any thoughts on this? __________________ I Make Money With These Guys!

11-05-2009, 06:37 PM	#2875 (permalink)
garptrader NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 857	JoshuaPZ you raise an interesting point regarding the email contact with an end user. Thus far I have used my personal email address which is what I use for my domain registrations. If they were to ever check the Whois, they would see a match. I do mention my primary sales website (English or Spanish) below my signature. But I could perhaps use info@DomainSalesSite.tld. It might sound more professional. Hmm.... __________________ http://www.genericdomains.net/ http://www.dominericos.com/ http://www.premiumdomains.tv/

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