All domains are useless so there should be no appraisal for domains

Would have have created these exact same threads if you received positve feedback from the names you posted to be appraised??

Chances are no.

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And what makes you think of that? Are you a Gene or something like a shaman?
Opinion is different from judgement and what you said was a judgement.

From the looks of most names you posted for appraisal, Im going say say that you are still somewhat inexperienced in the "domain industry".

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I see... so you mean webpronews purchased myseoblog.net for thousands of dollars from someone who don't have experience 4 years ago? LOL

Now alot of the time with inexperience comes frustration.
And sometimes with frustration comes anger.
And sometimes with anger comes posts like these.

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Again,, another false claim. You are saying everything based on assumption and not based on what others are saying. I can say "you are idiot because you said this and that" - would you accept that statement?

Again, and I'll repeat it over and over again. That thread was created based on my observation about what is happening in general on that particular appraisal folder. I can make money even if all people would give $0 to my domains and I don't care.. I just don't like seeing pointless and dumb assessment not on my domains but in all other domains owned by other members.

Let see how an expert pick some "high quality domains" and sell it for some dimes.. Is this something you are proud of? I can't help myself... lol

Raps.co exp: 10/12
CardGame.co exp: 11/12
Skull.mobi exp: 10/12
Surtax.info exp: 10/12
SurTax.us exp: 10/12
Cone.tv exp: 10/12
DateRental.com exp: 10/12
PokerOnline.cc exp: 10/12
MeteorInfo.com exp: 11/12
PPS4.com exp: 11/12

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... I can't even imagine what were you thinking when you registered the above domains. I guess you were thinking that someday, some idiots can be fooled and buy some of these domains...

If I challenge you to post all domains in your possession and mine for public judgement, if who has better domains, would you agree?...
I doubt....

And sometimes with anger come threads like these.

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This thread itself has no anger (read the opening post). It's just that people who are not convinced of what being posted here are getting angry and that includes you.. lol

silveraden said:

Because I said I did it, am I committed to prove it? I see you are losing an argument so I'll just sit and wait here...

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Well, yes.

If I make a bold claim that is a major point in a debate and someone asked me to provide proof, I would have no issues with doing that.

Also, I wasn't arguing a point - I was actually pointing out that I saw both sides of the coin, so please read my posts before you comment.

Before you post comments about potato farming, please remember that you can't have chips without potatoes and chips are delicious. I don't want to see you starting a potato farmer revolt with your comments.

Although, it does seem to me that you have a chip on your shoulder. :blink:

OK, in all seriousness, I'm done now... I am struggling to take this thread too seriously and for that I apologise.

Sabre said:

Well, yes.

If I make a bold claim that is a major point in a debate and someone asked me to provide proof, I would have no issues with doing that.

Also, I wasn't arguing a point - I was actually pointing out that I saw both sides of the coin, so please read my posts before you comment.

Before you post comments about potato farming, please remember that you can't have chips without potatoes and chips are delicious. I don't want to see you starting a potato farmer revolt with your comments.

Although, it does seem to me that you have a chip on your shoulder. :blink:

OK, in all seriousness, I'm done now... I am struggling to take this thread too seriously and for that I apologise.

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I said nothing wrong with potato farming. It's more easier than domaining so that will be a good option when domaining business gets bad... lol

I'm sure Frank Schilling and Rick Schwartz agree with you all the way silveraden.

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I'm sure Frank Schilling and Rick Schwartz agree with you all the way silveraden.

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Of course they did. No more valuable domains after they took almost everything and they knew that for sure.... :D

silveraden said:

If I challenge you to post all domains in your possession and mine for public judgement, if who has better domains, would you agree?...
I doubt....

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Honestly I know lots of his names, the competition would be over in seconds.

firefly said:

One thing is certainly clear; you need to bold nearly everything in your posts to make it seem important..... Do I need to highlight the incessant bolding again that you use to make it seem like you come from a position of authority?

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I use the bolding of fonts to emphasize my key points. It's the text equivalent of making hand gestures. LOL

Someone bust out the popcorn this thread is at least worth it!

I think to become a Domainer, you need to be atleast a graduate of Liberal Arts, like Philosophy perhaps. lol

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You are a genius and a domainer that actually gets it. The domain isn't valuable by itself although it may represent value to someone.

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I think the best way to determine whether a domain has value is to consider what the government thinks.

Amortizing cost of an $0.99c domain over 15 years makes it close to worthless.
Paying 30% Income Tax on Revenue Earned makes it pretty valuable.

The IRS doesn't care about the Name though.. just the monetary transactions associated with that name.

firefly said:

This whole analogy of land and domains is faulty to the nth degree.

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Hallelujah!

firefly said:

You can't own a domain, you can only rent it out on an annual basis. The fact that you can eventually own land puts it in a completely different league to domains full stop.

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That's one of the least compelling differences.

Try going to court to defend your "property" and showing up with a GoDaddy receipt...

Try transporting directly to a Gucci store bypassing all the traffic and bad neighborhoods.

firefly said:

Because someone put a value on it; decided what it was worth to them personally, or based on a business decision. Before that it was worthless. If you don't follow, try to keep up.

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It has the appearance of value if it has a fairly predictable liquid market valuation.

Using your argument a lot of financial instruments that exist that make money for people based on a false reality are worthless... the name just masks the underlying asset which is the associate usage rights.

Just like "a square appliance with rounded corners" is valueless until you put an Apple stamp on it (or Samsung tries to)

A name has value if it has associated IP (or mindshare equivalent). Most don't UNTIL they are used and in that regard you are still correct.

firefly said:

You do much the same simply because you don't understand what you are doing. You are not buying or selling a domain - you are simply buying or selling the right to rent the domain.

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The domain may have no value but those RIGHTS come with (in most cases) resale of RIGHTS. You're investing in intangible assets - intangible assets can still have value if they come with rights that can be converted to tangible cash (which is being replace by the company that owns NFCOnlineCashlessContactlessWallet.com to a an intangible asset)

firefly said:

All value comes from those who buy them, not from anything inherent to any particular name you buy or sell.

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If we're talking about a specific "name" then you're right.

firefly said:

Up until someone decides that the name is worth something to them it is indeed, worthless.

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The "name" is still worthless. The transferrable rights of usage of that name is what has value.

firefly said:

So do you and you seem blissfully unaware of it. Buying the right to rent a domain in the hope that it may make some money sounds very much like gambling to me, regardless of what value you have put on it.

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It's more of a calculated investment. People like me have shitty calculators.

firefly said:

He doesn't have to prove anything. He made the opening qualifying statement and the burden of prove now lays with all the responders, who, to this point, have done a God awful job of doing so. All I see are ad hominem attacks and pure fallacies.

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Why does anyone have to prove anything? I'm quite happy not believing the word that comes from anyone here. Me included.
People think that English is the common language of the internet. They are mistaken, it's actually bullshit and we're all pretty fluent in it here. efFluent?

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Wikipedia is a prime example of a site that regularly outranks exact match domains simply because the value of the information that is present. The domain isn't valuable but what has been put on there is.

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Hmmm...

And remember, QUALITY content is king.
Sweet Jesus!!

I'm going to go and kick a kitten now.

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firefly said:

I can't bothered wasting more time replying to this thread.

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I should copyright that to prevent others from using it.


I reserve the right to refute or take back anything that I may have said. I'm multi-tasking...

Some domains have inherent value. Hand reg a domain with direct convertible traffic. Park it. Collect PPC. Renew the name if PPC > renewal fee. Build wealth. QED.

Sabre said:

Before you post comments about potato farming, please remember that you can't have chips without potatoes and chips are delicious.

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Not true



But be aware that a large "american" company could aggressively try and take over your product.

silveraden said:

Show me a valuable domain and let's discuss....

There should be no appraisal for domains... only websites worth the appraisal...

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Starting for the thread title " All domains are useless so there should be no appraisal for domains"

No, there are useful domains and useless domains, not black or white


For "Show me a valuable domain and let's discuss...."

Supposing you want to build a site about song lyrics, what domain would you choose if these domain would be available:

songlyrics.com or ilikemysite.com?

You could say anything but I have no doubt you would choose songlyrics. The election of this option goes beyond whether google is giving importance to exact matches or not, it's just because is an ideal choice (although of course not the unique) so most people think like this and this turns a domain valued


For "There should be no appraisal for domains"

I think so, because domains have a price, would be $0 or any orher $100, etc etc. Obviosly appraisals might be wrong but people want to have opinions, they don't go blindly to sell a domain for a given appraisal or at least this would be the logical

I'm not against your view point, just I give mine

Domains are worthless if you consider the Internet itself worthless as a medium of communication.

Else domains are the only method to brand products / services online.

And will be for a long time to come.

While I'm not into this aspect as much as some of you guys are, perhaps this can give some food/s for thought:

http://www.elliotsblog.com/group-domain-name-appraisals-9101

In the meantime, enjoy, everyone. Life's too short wasting time on usually and potentially frustrating things like these.

Dave Zan said:

In the meantime, enjoy, everyone. Life's too short wasting time on usually and potentially frustrating things like these.

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Life has no actual value. Life is meaningless and empty. It's how you build on that nothing that matters

Wittenstein said it best

"The purpose of life is a life of purpose."

defaultuser said:

Life has no actual value. Life is meaningless and empty. It's how you build on that nothing that matters

Wittenstein said it best

"The purpose of life is a life of purpose."

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first time ive heard anyone else say this.. life certainly is meaningless - but not useless.