What Broker Do You Recommend?

-Joe- · 02-05-2012, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by wwwweb

Tell me where you can get 16 year old, 2 word .com's for $60 all day, and everyday, you are a domainer end user, big difference from an actual professional end user who doesn't trade domains all day.

Many companies are purchasing shortners for their current domains, as they can get them, as with anything, it all co,es down to cost, and value. A doctor with 6 figures in billings, can easily absorb a few k domain cost, it is not out of the question....... It doesn't look like domain has been paid for as of yet?

I've found that you get the majority of age benefit after ~1 year, and almost the maximum at ~5. .com adds to the value, definitely. A two word domain for such a niche term, though, does not. If anything, it decreases it, as it's less of a 'buying' keyword. I rarely trade domains, the main aspect of my business is PPC affiliate marketing & SEO - domaining takes up a very very small percentage.

Agreed, you could luck out and find some chiropractor with little knowledge of domains & their profitability, but there are domains like this all the time. I'd assume that the main method of selling a domain like this would be to a client? Personally, selling a domain for a few k to a client that will make them close to diddly-squat, is a business move that'll lose your business with them.

defaultuser · 02-05-2012, 08:13 PM

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wwwweb · 02-05-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by -Joe-

I've found that you get the majority of age benefit after ~1 year, and almost the maximum at ~5. .com adds to the value, definitely. A two word domain for such a niche term, though, does not. If anything, it decreases it, as it's less of a 'buying' keyword. I rarely trade domains, the main aspect of my business is PPC affiliate marketing & SEO - domaining takes up a very very small percentage.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-appraisals/745639-please-appraise-spinepain-com.html

Agreed, you could luck out and find some chiropractor with little knowledge of domains & their profitability, but there are domains like this all the time. I'd assume that the main method of selling a domain like this would be to a client? Personally, selling a domain for a few k to a client that will make them close to diddly-squat, is a business move that'll lose your business with them.

Names to end user are not always about income, like your business as you stated is affiliate income, sometimes it is about the vanity of the name, if you have a domain you are using such as SPINE PAIN KEYWORD.com, and you are a professional in a business that brings in 6-7 figures a year, you will want to consider owing the SPINE PAIN .com domain. End users are catching on, and only one can own the .com, the consumer would put a lot more credibility weight to their website simply based on the vanity of the domain. It is instant credibility, you still have to provide the end product, but it helps to hook the client.

JB Lions · 02-07-2012, 02:14 PM

It's funny reading some of the reg fee comments, as if chiropractors don't have any money to spend. Simple Google search and you see: spinepains.com, spineandpain.com, spinepaindocs.com, spinepaininc.com, spinepainny.com etc, that's just in the first 2 pages. End users? How about thousands of them, 50,000+ from looking, 44% of them self employed. I'm sure, if you try, you can find at least one of them that can part with a measly $3,000.

videoexpert · 02-07-2012, 02:58 PM

Thanks everyone for your comments. Based on the comments, it seems only way I can sell this is to contact individual chiropractors directly.
Is their call centers or anything that can contact a massive amount of chiropractors in a short amount of time?

Bannen · 02-07-2012, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by videoexpert

Thanks everyone for your comments. Based on the comments, it seems only way I can sell this is to contact individual chiropractors directly.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639
Is their call centers or anything that can contact a massive amount of chiropractors in a short amount of time?

There is a huge thread here on finding end users and how to deal with them:
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...end-users.html

Scan down it and collect a few tips. Basically google your term, collect a large list of email addies of anyone you think may be interested. Write a very short form letter, personalize it whenever you can so it doesn't look like a form letter. Get contact names wherever you can, in addition to their email addy, send it to a person. Do not bulk email, send one by one. Something extremely short and simple, professional, no hype, like:

Quote:

Hello xxxxx
I am selling my domain name xxxxxxxx.com.
I look online for possible interested parties, those of you whose website/s may benefit from a premium and descriptive domain like this, and I email you one at a time. If you're not interested in this domain, thank you for your time and I won't email you again.

If interested, please respond and I will walk you through the negotiation, selling and transfer process of this domain name.

Thank you,
[your name, phone and/or whatever you want to sign with. Including your phone does help considerably when dealing with premium names, as yours is, and with professionals, as your end users are. When dealing with reg fee names and questionable end users, including phone # can be an invitation for people to bother you, so I wouldn't risk it. Just my opinion/experience.]

That's a bare bones letter, I always try to personalize it a bit according to their site and business, but my letters are never longer than the above.

I can write for an hour on this process, but do some reading in that thread I linked above. Or, as mentioned, maybe hire one of the expert end user sellers here at NP and have them broker it for you.

GL

greatwebss · 02-07-2012, 09:52 PM

Enduser may pay 3k IMO. (ReSellers may pay 1K at max)
But you have to do some homework. Just locate endusers.
I have sold lot of domains to endusers ( Even all are hand regd. Even I had sold .org also @ 1.5K on hand regd domains)

Don't feel sad. Work smart to get back your money. Or even with profit.

Nothing bad with the domain. But there are very good alternatives available for 3K. Thats rocky

sdsinc · 02-08-2012, 03:28 AM

I know you are looking to liquidate the domain quick but you need to make sure the domain is not in auction lock.
For example, domains won through Namejet that are registered with Enom are locked for 6 weeks and cannot be transfered to somebody else in the meantime. During that period the name can be redeemed by the previous owner.
In your case, this would be a good scenario...

Now I see your domain is with Network Solutions, so perhaps there is no lock period or a shorter one.
It's always best to check that the name can be readily transfered to a potential buyer - when you have found one.

bmugford · 02-08-2012, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by sdsinc

Now I see your domain is with Network Solutions, so perhaps there is no lock period or a shorter one.
It's always best to check that the name can be readily transfered to a potential buyer - when you have found one.

Network Solutions does not have an auction lock.

I frequently transfer NameJet wins out right away.

Brad

Fonzie · 02-11-2012, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by CureCancer

Yeah okay dude keep telling yourself that, if you had any experience dealing with end users then you wouldn't be hyping the OP over a reg fee domain he got sucked into. Not a single end user would pay anywhere near the price tag he paid.

You valuation of this domain is so off that I'll just unsubscribe myself from this thread so I don't have to read anymore silly appraisals over a reg fee domain name.

LMAO that you've been registered on this site since 2005 and think this is a reg fee domain.

You should tell that to the people who own:

spinepain.com Taken
spinepain.org Taken
spinepain.net Taken
spinepain.me Taken
spinepain.tv Taken
spinepain.in Taken
spinepain.info Taken
spinepain.co Taken
spinepain.eu Taken
spinepain.us Taken
spinepain.biz Taken
spinepain.co.uk Taken

... or the 183 other domains that incorporate "Spine Pain" into their string, or the businesses forking over $200 Adwords/edc to advertise on P1 for "Spine Pain" or the 18K global phrase-match searchers...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639

OP, there's a reason this domain went off for $3K. If you overspent relative to your personal finances that's your own problem, but god only knows I've blown a few grand on crap a LOT worse than SpinePain.com.

That is a very nice domain.
I'd suggest consulting with an experienced domain name broker and having him go to work.
You might make out like a bandit, I'd be shocked if you came out any less than even.

And the fact that you have a member who's been here for seven f***ing years telling you that SpinePain.com is a reg fee names demonstrates just what kind of crowd remains at Namepros.

You people had better be thankful Brad still hangs around here.
He's damn near all you got left.

videoexpert · 02-12-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Fonzie

That is a very nice domain.
I'd suggest consulting with an experienced domain name broker and having him go to work.
You might make out like a bandit, I'd be shocked if you came out any less than even.

And the fact that you have a member who's been here for seven f***ing years telling you that SpinePain.com is a reg fee names demonstrates just what kind of crowd remains at Namepros.

Thank you for your post! I am new and I am sorry if this is a very dumb question... what does everyone mean when they refer to "reg fee names"?

Who is a good broker that is highly motivated to sell domain names? Has anyone had any good experiences with a particular broker or have any recommendations?

Fonzie · 02-12-2012, 12:33 AM

Oops. I didn't read carefully enough.

defaultuser · 02-12-2012, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Fonzie

In the case of the OP, he spent a considerable sum of money on a very good domain on the aftermarket.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639

He is the OP, numnut. This attention to detail is one of the things that makes NP look bad, don't ya think.

Elliot has a broker section. Not sure if it's valuable or not...
http://www.elliotsblog.com/work-with...in-broker-1024

Fonzie · 02-12-2012, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by defaultuser

He is the OP, numnut. This attention to detail is one of the things that makes NP look bad, don't ya think.

No, it just makes me, personally, look like a flaming retard. It has nothing to do with Namepros (although it doesn't do much to allay the stereotype that this place is filled with dumba**es

)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639

OP, I'll PM you a couple suggestions later.

carob · 02-12-2012, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by videoexpert

Thank you for your post! I am new and I am sorry if this is a very dumb question... what does everyone mean when they refer to "reg fee names"?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639

Who is a good broker that is highly motivated to sell domain names? Has anyone had any good experiences with a particular broker or have any recommendations?

Hi Sedo.com offer a brokering service. Check their reputation for yourself.

Registration Fee is abbreviated to regfee and is domainer shorthand for "domain is worth no more than the cost of the registration fee" of a previously unregistered name, say $10.

Did you buy this name out of personal interest, as an investment, as a gamble? Just curious, and curious about what the actual sale price was at Namejet.

***johname*** · 02-12-2012, 08:36 AM

Well you now know ebay doesnt work, it's like trying to sell a Ferrari in the ghetto.

Code:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spine-Pain-com-16-yrs-old-110k-Monthly-Search-4-73-PPC-Premium-Domain-/260949257935?pt=Domain_Names&hash=item3cc1c9aecf#ht_500wt_1361

freedom30 · 02-12-2012, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by johname

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639
Every Chiropractor would be a potential end user. Back relief products too...

yes, the domain name has HUGE potential for the categories you describe.

Sometimes wonder if those members that have similar names ascribe "reg fee" because they may see an encroachment upon their "territory" and feel the need to dissuade someone from a name that is close to one of their own that they are attempting to sell. I understand the psychology, but it fades when the name overpowers the weak appraisal, as in this case...

evirtual1 · 02-14-2012, 12:29 AM

should have been spinalpain for real value , sorry low $xxx for me , good luck

Keith · 02-14-2012, 05:59 AM

Spineconsult.com sold for $2588. You should contact owners of these type of domains and try to sell them yours. You could get more than you paid IMO.

.X. · 02-14-2012, 10:13 PM

I think you made a wise investment in this name.

You may have paid just a tad to much for it in today's market value. But some times that is a necessary evil in this industry at this time.

You are looking at a wide spectrum of end users. Chiropractic, Neurosurgeon, Rehabilitation and ect.

Ride it out and you could make high X,XXX To low XX,XXX in return

videoexpert · 03-13-2012, 11:26 PM

This was my first domain investment and I came to this forum to get help and support. Instead of getting help and support it seems I got a lot of people posting negative comments and a lot of discouragement. To the few that posted helpful information and encouragement I want to say thank you!!!!

I am pleased to report I sold the domain in the mid-high 4 figure range and made a nice profit!!!

To those that said it was worth the 3 figure range or said I wasted my money, I'm sorry but your wrong. I think its crazy how I have no experience and yet I was able to prove many pro's wrong.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639

Again I appreciate Brad, .x., Fronzie, bannen, wwwweb, and others who provided helpful information and encouragement to a newbie. Thanks!

koelkast · 03-14-2012, 12:00 AM

Great! Congrats!

Originally Posted by videoexpert

This was my first domain investment and I came to this forum to get help and support. Instead of getting help and support it seems I got a lot of people posting negative comments and a lot of discouragement. To the few that posted helpful information and encouragement I want to say thank you!!!!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639

I am pleased to report I sold the domain in the mid-high 5 figure range and made a nice profit!!!

To those that said it was worth the 4 figure range or said I wasted my money, I'm sorry but your wrong. I think its crazy how I have no experience and yet I was able to prove many pro's wrong.

Again I appreciate Brad, .x., Fronzie, bannen, wwwweb, and others who provided helpful information and encouragement to a newbie. Thanks!

Bannen · 03-14-2012, 08:43 AM

That's great to hear; nice that your first domain investment, where you took a BIG chance, paid off so well. That is rare, but it worked for you.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639

I'm not surprised you profited by this name, as I mentioned earlier; but I AM surprised by how well you did... mid-high xx,xxx is fantastic. I would have shot for mid-high x,xxx and figured that's where the sweet spot was, so you blew my valuation out the window

How did it happen, did you hire a domain broker or did you launch a campaign to send emails to end users yourself?

Kudos, congratulations

hawkeye · 03-14-2012, 09:03 AM

Congrats to you. And if you did get mid 5 figs for it, even a bigger congrats. Just goes to show you who here 'really' knows domains and their potential, and those that 'think' they know because they post here a lot.

***johname*** · 03-14-2012, 10:05 AM

(op made a mistake, wasnt 5 figures, so i edit my post) Nice normal endusre sale!

I think only one person used the r-word. And we all knew that was silly.

We all say here that you cant predict how high a enduser will go, and that any decent name can hit a homer under the right conditions. The better the "decent" name the better chance for a get out the tape monster home run.

You did what you had to do, hustle up an enduser. Good job, now tell the wife you need some of the money for your domaining career. lol

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JB Lions NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Orlando Posts: 994 Follow @JBLions	It's funny reading some of the reg fee comments, as if chiropractors don't have any money to spend. Simple Google search and you see: spinepains.com, spineandpain.com, spinepaindocs.com, spinepaininc.com, spinepainny.com etc, that's just in the first 2 pages. End users? How about thousands of them, 50,000+ from looking, 44% of them self employed. I'm sure, if you try, you can find at least one of them that can part with a measly $3,000.

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videoexpert New Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6	Thanks everyone for your comments. Based on the comments, it seems only way I can sell this is to contact individual chiropractors directly. Is their call centers or anything that can contact a massive amount of chiropractors in a short amount of time?

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02-14-2012, 05:59 AM	#44 (permalink)
Keith Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: "D" town Posts: 3,615	Spineconsult.com sold for $2588. You should contact owners of these type of domains and try to sell them yours. You could get more than you paid IMO.

02-14-2012, 10:13 PM	#45 (permalink)
.X. Revolution Calling! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NamePros Avenue Posts: 5,909	I think you made a wise investment in this name. You may have paid just a tad to much for it in today's market value. But some times that is a necessary evil in this industry at this time. You are looking at a wide spectrum of end users. Chiropractic, Neurosurgeon, Rehabilitation and ect. Ride it out and you could make high X,XXX To low XX,XXX in return

03-13-2012, 11:26 PM	THREAD STARTER #46 (permalink)
videoexpert New Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6	I Sold It!!! This was my first domain investment and I came to this forum to get help and support. Instead of getting help and support it seems I got a lot of people posting negative comments and a lot of discouragement. To the few that posted helpful information and encouragement I want to say thank you!!!! I am pleased to report I sold the domain in the mid-high 4 figure range and made a nice profit!!! To those that said it was worth the 3 figure range or said I wasted my money, I'm sorry but your wrong. I think its crazy how I have no experience and yet I was able to prove many pro's wrong. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639 Again I appreciate Brad, .x., Fronzie, bannen, wwwweb, and others who provided helpful information and encouragement to a newbie. Thanks! Last edited by videoexpert; 03-14-2012 at 01:23 PM.

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Bannen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Beautiful British Columbia, Canada Posts: 2,621	That's great to hear; nice that your first domain investment, where you took a BIG chance, paid off so well. That is rare, but it worked for you. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=745639 I'm not surprised you profited by this name, as I mentioned earlier; but I AM surprised by how well you did... mid-high xx,xxx is fantastic. I would have shot for mid-high x,xxx and figured that's where the sweet spot was, so you blew my valuation out the window How did it happen, did you hire a domain broker or did you launch a campaign to send emails to end users yourself? Kudos, congratulations __________________ BANNEN'S Best Available Dot.Com's List!

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hawkeye Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hollyweird Posts: 2,601	Congrats to you. And if you did get mid 5 figs for it, even a bigger congrats. Just goes to show you who here 'really' knows domains and their potential, and those that 'think' they know because they post here a lot. __________________ FixedPriceDomains.com "Dream, Believe, Achieve!"

03-14-2012, 10:05 AM	#50 (permalink)
*johname* Business Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,512	(op made a mistake, wasnt 5 figures, so i edit my post) Nice normal endusre sale! I think only one person used the r-word. And we all knew that was silly. We all say here that you cant predict how high a enduser will go, and that any decent name can hit a homer under the right conditions. The better the "decent" name the better chance for a get out the tape monster home run. You did what you had to do, hustle up an enduser. Good job, now tell the wife you need some of the money for your domaining career. lol Last edited by johname; 03-14-2012 at 01:30 PM.

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