RON PAUL - Why is he being ignored? - Page 8

Domainace · 02-09-2012, 12:13 AM

Sad that Santorum is as big government as Obama. Hearing his defense of big government and criticism of "radical individualism" was enough to scare me off. A Republican dictator is no better than a Democratic dictator.
The only reason I can see to vote for Obama is that the challengers are all so bad. If the country is going down the tubes anyway, may as well let the Democrats get the credit.
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Quote: “They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom or in cultural issues. That is not how traditional conservatives view the world.”
So now you know.

Is Portugal offering citizenship these days?

RogueWriter · 02-09-2012, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by JB Lions

Terrorism, we got the guy responsible. Haven't had any major attacks and so on.

Oh yes, I did forget, Obama did continue the policy that Bush initiated and implemented of telling our armed forces/intelligence services to kill terrorists. He should get some credit for following Bush's lead.

GILSAN · 02-09-2012, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by RaiderGirl

I laugh at these polls that ask who would you vote for "Obama or Romney" or whoever... Most voters don't have a friggin clue who the candidates even are, Don't believe me? ask some of your friends or coworkers and see what the response is. It all comes down to name recognition, this is the reason Obama is polling higher than the Romney or anyone else.. Once the Republicans have their nominee, it's going to be a completely different ball game, As Obama will be forced to spend most of his time defending his dismal record of the last 3 years, when that happens, watch for Obama's poll numbers to dramatically decline.
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As for Romney, I don't think people realize how weak a candidate he really is, He's a empty suit just like Obama, NO substance, just a lot of campaign rhetoric and promises he doesn't plan to keep.. This is a guy who LOST against the most Liberal man in the Senate "Ted Kennedy" in 1994, a coward and a murderer.

"It all comes down to name recognition" That's an excellent point. No wonder the MSM keep giving Romney so much air time. "Name Recognition" is the name of the game. Now that Santorum has thrown his spanner into the works with these 3 wins, the MSM were caught off guard.

Lets not forget that Obama will get 90-95% of the Black vote and probably over 70% of the Latino vote, both of which represent over 25% of the total vote. That's a big slice of the pie

Is Portugal offering citizenship these days?

I'm sure they do; Why would you want such a thing? If its to get away from all the earthquakes, tsunamis and the nuclear disaster, than yes Portugal is a good place to live. Hardly any natural disasters here.

JB Lions · 02-09-2012, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by RogueWriter

Oh yes, I did forget, Obama did continue the policy that Bush initiated and implemented of telling our armed forces/intelligence services to kill terrorists. He should get some credit for following Bush's lead.

If he followed Bush's lead, we would still be looking for those responsible in the wrong country. Credit Obama for actually knowing how to read a map and taking care of business. But it's nice to see you give Obama credit for his accomplishments.
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Let's not forget, Bush's last year in office, unemployment went from 5% to almost 8%, big slide in just one year. But looks like things are slowing turning around.

GILSAN · 02-09-2012, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by JB Lions

Credit Obama for actually knowing how to read a map and taking care of business. But it's nice to see you give Obama credit for his accomplishments.

Credit should be given to the US Military, U.S. intelligence, CIA, U.S. Special Forces who tracked down Bin Laden and then the Navy Seals who did the rest. A lot of work was put into that mission over a long period of time, starting back when Bush was still in the White House.

All Obama had to do was to listen to his advisers, say "OK guys, lets do it" and then announced it to the nation that night. Any President can do that.
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Give credit were credit is due.

JB Lions · 02-09-2012, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by GILSAN

Credit should be given to the US Military, U.S. intelligence, CIA, U.S. Special Forces who tracked down Bin Laden and then the Navy Seals who did the rest. A lot of work was put into that mission over a long period of time, starting back when Bush was still in the White House.

All Obama had to do was to listen to his advisers, say "OK guys, lets do it" and then announced it to the nation that night. Any President can do that.

Give credit were credit is due.

Of course for most of that. Not the Bush part tho, you have to put the resources in the right places -

Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) - YouTube

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Now if we had Ron Paul in the White House, it wouldn't have happened. Talking about taking Bin Laden out. Which could relate to the title of this thread, another reason he's being ignored (besides the many I touched on earlier). I will agree with him a little bit, in the sense I think there are times we meddle in other people's affairs when we shouldn't, but there are times you need to take action on stuff like this, and he would be unwilling to do so. This kind of thing wouldn't fly:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...in-laden-raid/

Can't have a pushover mentality in the White House.

GILSAN · 02-09-2012, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by JB Lions

Now if we had Ron Paul in the White House, it wouldn't have happened. Talking about taking Bin Laden out. Which could relate to the title of this thread, another reason he's being ignored (besides the many I touched on earlier). I will agree with him a little bit, in the sense I think there are times we meddle in other people's affairs when we shouldn't, but there are times you need to take action on stuff like this, and he would be unwilling to do so. This kind of thing wouldn't fly:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...in-laden-raid/

Can't have a pushover mentality in the White House.

Ron Paul's foreign policy is the best by far. If Ron Paul had been president instead of George W. 9/11 would probably never had happened and Bin Laden would never have become so notorious, famous and wanted. When Bush was elected most people in Europe and I assume around the world were highly disappointed and surprised that a cowboy had been elected to the White House.

Obama came in saying he would end the wars, stop Guantanamo, etc, but he just continued Bushes policies. 10 years later, with thousands of dead soldiers, and even more Afghanis dead, trillions of dollars spent, all the bombed out infrastructure, and all the increase in hatred towards Americans, the Taliban are back in force and you can bet the US will probably leave Afghanistan soon with their tail between their legs and licking their wounds, just like Vietnam.

That's a lot to just get Bin Laden. There must be thousands out there wanting to fill his shoes. Its like suicide bombers. One dies but there are 1000 waiting for the next mission.

I'm willing to bet that Obama will probably announce the withdrawal from Afghanistan sometime this year, perhaps a few months before the next elections, so that everyone will be happy that the war is over. Or maybe Obama will just transfer the soldiers to Iran which looks like the next likely war scenario.

Ron Paul's Foreign policy is the most sensible and would considerably lessen all that hatred against Americans especially from Muslim countries, that absolutely hate the fact that the US is waging wars in their lands.
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Sooner or later the US won't be able to afford any more wars. Look at the massive foreign debt of almost 16 trillion, and rising. Sooner or later the US will have to cut their debt, because China is not going to buy US debt forever.

The link you put up is from Fox News who obviously hate Ron Paul. Correct me if I'm wrong but I've heard the "old guy" say that he's not against going to war, but it should be done with the approval of congress.

Of course it

dgridley · 02-09-2012, 04:08 PM

People forget we put a lot of these guys like Bin Laden in business in the first place.. I personally think that's why it took so long to "find" him..
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Originally Posted by JB Lions

Of course for most of that. Not the Bush part tho, you have to put the resources in the right places -

Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) - YouTube

Now if we had Ron Paul in the White House, it wouldn't have happened. Talking about taking Bin Laden out. Which could relate to the title of this thread, another reason he's being ignored (besides the many I touched on earlier). I will agree with him a little bit, in the sense I think there are times we meddle in other people's affairs when we shouldn't, but there are times you need to take action on stuff like this, and he would be unwilling to do so. This kind of thing wouldn't fly:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...in-laden-raid/

Can't have a pushover mentality in the White House.

JB Lions · 02-09-2012, 04:54 PM

"People forget we put a lot of these guys like Bin Laden in business in the first place.. I personally think that's why it took so long to "find" him.."

That would actually be a good reason for "handling" him and not letting him wander the earth and I'm sure Bush would have loved to get it done before he left office. So the not wanting to find him, doesn't really hold up.

RogueWriter · 02-09-2012, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by JB Lions

Credit Obama for actually knowing how to read a map

I'm sure an aid showed him where Pakistan was on a map.

JB Lions · 02-09-2012, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by RogueWriter

I'm sure an aid showed him where Pakistan was on a map.

So he might be guilty of good hiring practices?

It would have been nice if Bush was guilty of that.

RogueWriter · 02-10-2012, 05:19 AM

JB, could you remind me when and where Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the planner of 9/11, was captured? It seems to have escaped me. Oh, and who was President then?

JB Lions · 02-10-2012, 10:35 AM

In the end, why he's being ignored, he's just a little coo-coo, video evidence -

"Ron Paul" â€” A BLR Soundbite - YouTube

GILSAN · 02-10-2012, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by JB Lions

In the end, why he's being ignored, he's just a little coo-coo, video evidence -
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"Ron Paul" â€” A BLR Soundbite - YouTube

Is this video the best you can find to show why Ron Paul should be ignored?

Surely you can find better.. or maybe you can't.

JB Lions · 02-10-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by GILSAN

Is this video the best you can find to show why Ron Paul should be ignored?

Surely you can find better.. or maybe you can't.

Watch the video again, but watch the first 3 seconds, very, very closely. Those are joke videos, good ones at that.

"why Ron Paul should be ignored?"

It's already been gone over, just have to reread the thread. Has nothing to do with the media. It has to do with his views on various subjects. They're very libertarian and some of them are just out there. We've had people talking for years about him running for President when he can't even win 1 state against his Republican rivals. He's always had a zero chance of winning. That's reality.

RaiderGirl · 02-10-2012, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Domainace

Sad that Santorum is as big government as Obama. Hearing his defense of big government and criticism of "radical individualism" was enough to scare me off. A Republican dictator is no better than a Democratic dictator.

I got a taste of that when he was asked in the last debate about SOPA, where he said the Internet should not be a place where "Anything Goes" Meaning more Government regulation is the answer, that it's the job of congress to police the internet.
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No candidate is going to be everything you want him to, theirs always going to be something you don't agree with, I disagree with Newt on many issues such as Man being blamed for Global Warming, or Federal money being spent to go to the moon, now is NOT the time, you want to fund it publicly? knock yourself out. The point is, these issues are not as important to me than balancing the budget, paying down the debt, putting Americans back to work and revitalizing this economy, I think Newt and Ron Paul are the most qualified to accomplish all of these... Unfortunately, Paul and Newt are not looking very good on the delegate count.

And to their credit, we should note that Santorum and Ron Paul are the two who are most opposed to the Health care mandate, citing it's a violation of the Constitution.. Romney is OK with mandates so long as those mandates are imposed by the states, What he fails to recognize is the mandate alone to buy ANYTHING private is a VIOLATION of the commerce clause, So we'll find out when it goes to the Supreme Court this year.

GILSAN · 02-10-2012, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by JB Lions

"why Ron Paul should be ignored?"

It's already been gone over, just have to reread the thread. Has nothing to do with the media. It has to do with his views on various subjects. They're very libertarian and some of them are just out there. We've had people talking for years about him running for President when he can't even win 1 state against his Republican rivals. He's always had a zero chance of winning. That's reality.

Too bad so many people don't like Ron. Send him to Portugal, he would be very welcome here. Much better than the useless snakes we have in our parliament.

liquidcherry · 02-10-2012, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by GILSAN

Too bad so many people don't like Ron. Send him to Portugal, he would be very welcome here. Much better than the useless snakes we have in our parliament.

So, basically you are just fed up with your own politicians, that's why you created this thread???
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but i am glad you did, it is a very interesting one with a lot of different views and opinions(thx mods not to delete it because it is political, i remember a while ago it was not even possible to have a thread like this)

I am searching Google right now like a maniac for Ron Paul's phone number so that i can call him to tell him that Portugal has a presidents seat waiting for him since he has no chance to be the prez of the US of A,

cheers

liquid

dgridley · 02-11-2012, 01:46 AM

Ron Paul crazy? Like a fox..

Could he actually pull this off?

http://youtu.be/2OkN2npJR-4

GILSAN · 02-11-2012, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by liquidcherry

So, basically you are just fed up with your own politicians, that's why you created this thread???
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but i am glad you did, it is a very interesting one with a lot of different views and opinions(thx mods not to delete it because it is political, i remember a while ago it was not even possible to have a thread like this)

I am searching Google right now like a maniac for Ron Paul's phone number so that i can call him to tell him that Portugal has a presidents seat waiting for him since he has no chance to be the prez of the US of A,

cheers

liquid

Thanks for your help in looking for his phone#

Hope you can convince him.
If he does come here we'll change his name to Ronaldo Paulo...

sounds more Portuguese

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Originally Posted by dgridley

Ron Paul crazy? Like a fox..

Could he actually pull this off?

http://youtu.be/2OkN2npJR-4

Bloody confusing....

but very, very, very interesting.

Gonna have to watch this video a second time to try and understand this confusion.

GILSAN · 02-11-2012, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by RaiderGirl

I got a taste of that when he was asked in the last debate about SOPA, where he said the Internet should not be a place where "Anything Goes" Meaning more Government regulation is the answer, that it's the job of congress to police the internet.

No candidate is going to be everything you want him to, theirs always going to be something you don't agree with, I disagree with Newt on many issues such as Man being blamed for Global Warming, or Federal money being spent to go to the moon, now is NOT the time, you want to fund it publicly? knock yourself out. The point is, these issues are not as important to me than balancing the budget, paying down the debt, putting Americans back to work and revitalizing this economy, I think Newt and Ron Paul are the most qualified to accomplish all of these... Unfortunately, Paul and Newt are not looking very good on the delegate count.
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And to their credit, we should note that Santorum and Ron Paul are the two who are most opposed to the Health care mandate, citing it's a violation of the Constitution.. Romney is OK with mandates so long as those mandates are imposed by the states, What he fails to recognize is the mandate alone to buy ANYTHING private is a VIOLATION of the commerce clause, So we'll find out when it goes to the Supreme Court this year.

Thanks for your input

You explain things very well and make a lot of sense.

RogueWriter · 02-14-2012, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by RogueWriter

JB, could you remind me when and where Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the planner of 9/11, was captured? It seems to have escaped me. Oh, and who was President then?

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JB, you still lookin' this up for me?

JB Lions · 02-14-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by RogueWriter

JB, you still lookin' this up for me?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Khalid+Sheikh+Mohammed
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And? We're talking about the prime suspect, Bin Laden - http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archiv...0010917-3.html

Bush - "All I can tell you is that Osama bin Laden is a prime suspect, and the people who house him, encourage him, provide food, comfort or money are on notice."

Plus, I didn't answer at first, because this is a thread about Ron Paul. I didn't think we needed to go over how much of a failure Bush was, that's been done to death.

RogueWriter · 02-15-2012, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by JB Lions

And? We're talking about the prime suspect, Bin Laden -

Actually, you were suggesting that Bush forced his intelligence services to hunt for Osama only in Afghanistan. And, yes, the anti-Bush liberal league has made it abundantly clear that they are willing to stretch all sorts of truths in order to imply that Bush was a terrible President. I did not like several of his policies, as I am sure most did not.

However, the current administration has added trillions upon trillions of debt upon us, just one of a string of failures. That has nothing to do with the previous President. The fact that the intelligence services that Bush strengthened finally tracked Osama down during Obama's presidency should not be a cornerstone to Obama's reelection campaign; if he had had the opportunity, Obama would have gutted the intelligence services years ago during his blindingly brief tenure as a Senator.
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You want to get back to discussing Ron Paul, that's just fine.

dgridley · 02-15-2012, 11:59 AM

Not seeing much re: Ron Paul on any of the major news sites I visit..

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Domainace Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Japan Posts: 1,879	Sad that Santorum is as big government as Obama. Hearing his defense of big government and criticism of "radical individualism" was enough to scare me off. A Republican dictator is no better than a Democratic dictator. The only reason I can see to vote for Obama is that the challengers are all so bad. If the country is going down the tubes anyway, may as well let the Democrats get the credit. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/the-break-room/743640-ron-paul-why-he-being-ignored.html Quote: “They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom or in cultural issues. That is not how traditional conservatives view the world.” So now you know. Is Portugal offering citizenship these days? Last edited by Domainace; 02-09-2012 at 12:17 AM.

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JB Lions NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Orlando Posts: 994 Follow @JBLions	"People forget we put a lot of these guys like Bin Laden in business in the first place.. I personally think that's why it took so long to "find" him.." That would actually be a good reason for "handling" him and not letting him wander the earth and I'm sure Bush would have loved to get it done before he left office. So the not wanting to find him, doesn't really hold up.

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