Is this a fraud email inquiry about my domain?

ambitnfun · 10-09-2011, 06:37 AM

Any1 got the same email like mine, which is shown below:

Hello,

We are going to buy your domain name.

Our company is in hosting and domain name business.

Please email us your desired price in USD or euros for the domain name in the subject line.

If you have other names for sale please email us your domains with prices.

Looking forward to doing business with you.

Regards,

Michael Bortman

CEO

Web Hosting Investment Inc
Domain Name Investing & Web Development
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/722388-has-anyone-had-email-domain-investors.html

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I have replied back to him. stated that I dont really want to sell my domain, if he really wants to buy, then make an offer.and there he goes below:

This domain name can be very profitable with right marketing.

What do you think about 4000 USD for your domain name?

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

Do you think this is a fraud?

Bannen · 10-09-2011, 07:42 AM

yes, this is definitely the common appraisal scam template letter. Wish some governing body could rise up and crush this scam beneath their bootheels

MrNewbs · 10-09-2011, 12:46 PM

I just got this email the other day, way to bum people out. lol

MrNewbs · 10-10-2011, 06:36 AM

also if anyone has visited his site(s) there are viruses being downloaded in the background. luckly comodo and avast caught them. just be warned!

WGS_Thunder · 10-10-2011, 08:04 AM

only $4000? He offered me $40000

ambitnfun · 10-10-2011, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by WGS_Thunder

only $4000? He offered me $40000

It looks like your domain is much valuable than mine, show us ur domain lol

Paul200 · 10-10-2011, 04:39 PM

Wow these guys just never stop trying to scam people

ESell · 10-11-2011, 02:01 AM

Last day I got an e-mail about one of my domains.
I was thinking why the hell didn't he made an offer on sedo? Clearly raised allot of questions after he offered 4,000 dollars for a mid $xxx domain.

His e-mail:

Quote:

Hello,

We are going to buy your domain name.

Our company is in hosting and domain name business.

Please email us your desired price in USD or euros for the domain name in the subject line.

If you have other names for sale please email us your domains with prices.

Looking forward to doing business with you.

Regards,

Michael Hendrix

President

Web Hosting Investment Inc
Domain Name Investing & Web Development

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information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
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My reply:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=722388

Quote:

Good evening, please make us an offer or a price you have in mind.
Thank you for your interest.

His reply:

Quote:

This domain name can be very profitable with right marketing.

What do you think about 40000 USD for your domain name?

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
thenamepros.com/Archive/942578361.htm

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

At this point I was thinking, this guy is an newbie or it's a scam.
I clearly realized it's SCAM after reading that "post", so I was curious what is he going to say if I would offer another appraisal from another company.

My reply:

Quote:

If you wish I can provide a sedo appraisal (paid appraisal, not automatic), which is more than acceptable.
I will not offer any appraisal mentioned on that website.
Please let me know if you agree.

His reply:

Quote:

I see, but it's a standard practice to show independent valuation to
buyers/resellers. Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and
have no intention of changing rules which help both parties to avoid
additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So
manual valuation is a "must" too.

I read the following information about appraisals at
thenamepros.com/Archive/942578361.htm

Without the independent valuation from a trusted source we don't spend a
penny. This is our financial policy. So our offer is just a rought estimate.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=722388
If the appraisal comes higher we are ready to offer a bit more. If it comes
lower we will discuss the price with you again.

Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to doing business with you.

On certifieddomainvalue.com it says:

Quote:

Average sale price: $ 4,082

Obvious, if I made an appraisal website and tried to scam people into it, I would put another price.

My guess is after you paid and got an underrated appraisal, the guy is going to say, "I am sorry, but I thought it was a good name" or he would not answer.
Hope you guys learn from this experience.
Have a perfect day,
ESell.

L.E: Now I see it was 40k not 4k.

shane mac · 10-11-2011, 02:13 AM

Scam written all over it

tomcarl · 10-11-2011, 02:30 AM

Yep, I received the same email from this guy wanting to buy some .info's from me for $500 a piece considering I paid for $200 appraisals for them from his 'reputable sources'.

ESell · 10-11-2011, 02:58 AM

I am sure that there are more people that got e-mails from this guy.
Thank you for sharing your experience tomcarl. Did yo managed to block the payment?

iDigitize · 10-19-2011, 01:04 PM

Also received this email!!!!

Hello,

We are interested in purchasing your domain name.

Our company is in hosting and domain name business.

Please email us your desired price in USD or euros for the domain name in the subject line.

If you have other names for sale please email us your domains with prices.

Looking forward to doing business with you.

Regards,

Michael Kogan

President

Name Investment Boutique LLC
================================================== ======
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
================================================== ======

Followed by this email.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=722388

Looking forward to your reply.

Domaines · 12-14-2011, 03:18 AM

I receveid the same message a few days ago for the same purpose but with another name (begin i-a)and other company.
During the conversation(s), the person insist for having an apraisal and a certificate and do not have any consideration for my own price and my own wishes.

*RWD* · 12-20-2011, 02:52 PM

What do you think about 25,000 USD for your domain name?

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
thenamepros.com/Archive/697420369.htm

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=722388

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

Andrew Baumann was the name this time LOL

10-09-2011, 06:37 AM	#51 (permalink)
ambitnfun NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 62	Is this a fraud email inquiry about my domain? Any1 got the same email like mine, which is shown below: Hello, We are going to buy your domain name. Our company is in hosting and domain name business. Please email us your desired price in USD or euros for the domain name in the subject line. If you have other names for sale please email us your domains with prices. Looking forward to doing business with you. Regards, Michael Bortman CEO Web Hosting Investment Inc Domain Name Investing & Web Development ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/722388-has-anyone-had-email-domain-investors.html ================================================== ====== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ====== I have replied back to him. stated that I dont really want to sell my domain, if he really wants to buy, then make an offer.and there he goes below: This domain name can be very profitable with right marketing. What do you think about 4000 USD for your domain name? Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. Do you think this is a fraud? Last edited by mis_chiff; 10-09-2011 at 09:33 AM.

10-09-2011, 07:42 AM	#52 (permalink)
Bannen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Beautiful British Columbia, Canada Posts: 2,621	yes, this is definitely the common appraisal scam template letter. Wish some governing body could rise up and crush this scam beneath their bootheels __________________ BANNEN'S Best Available Dot.Com's List!

10-10-2011, 08:04 AM	#55 (permalink)
WGS_Thunder certified domainiac Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: PcGamersWorld Posts: 1,463	only $4000? He offered me $40000 __________________ PC Gamers World PC Gamers World PC Gamers advocates, all about PC gaming

10-11-2011, 02:13 AM	#59 (permalink)
shane mac Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Uk Posts: 1,035	Scam written all over it __________________ 3DPlasmatv.com/net

10-19-2011, 01:04 PM	#62 (permalink)
iDigitize New Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 9	Also received this email!!!! Hello, We are interested in purchasing your domain name. Our company is in hosting and domain name business. Please email us your desired price in USD or euros for the domain name in the subject line. If you have other names for sale please email us your domains with prices. Looking forward to doing business with you. Regards, Michael Kogan President Name Investment Boutique LLC ================================================== ====== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ====== Followed by this email. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=722388 Looking forward to your reply. Last edited by mis_chiff; 04-14-2012 at 09:36 AM.

Is this a fraud email inquiry about my domain?

scam certifieddomainvalue

Same with other name

10-09-2011, 12:46 PM	#53 (permalink)
MrNewbs NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 35	I just got this email the other day, way to bum people out. lol

10-10-2011, 06:36 AM	#54 (permalink)
MrNewbs NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 35	also if anyone has visited his site(s) there are viruses being downloaded in the background. luckly comodo and avast caught them. just be warned!

10-10-2011, 04:39 PM	#57 (permalink)
Paul200 NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: UK Posts: 29	Wow these guys just never stop trying to scam people

10-11-2011, 02:30 AM	#60 (permalink)
tomcarl NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 105	Yep, I received the same email from this guy wanting to buy some .info's from me for $500 a piece considering I paid for $200 appraisals for them from his 'reputable sources'.

10-11-2011, 02:58 AM	#61 (permalink)
ESell NamePros Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 100	I am sure that there are more people that got e-mails from this guy. Thank you for sharing your experience tomcarl. Did yo managed to block the payment?

12-14-2011, 03:18 AM	#63 (permalink)
Domaines New Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 4	Same with other name I receveid the same message a few days ago for the same purpose but with another name (begin i-a)and other company. During the conversation(s), the person insist for having an apraisal and a certificate and do not have any consideration for my own price and my own wishes.

12-20-2011, 02:52 PM	#64 (permalink)
RWD Carpe Diem Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New Hampshire USA Posts: 122	What do you think about 25,000 USD for your domain name? Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: thenamepros.com/Archive/697420369.htm Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=722388 After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. Andrew Baumann was the name this time LOL Last edited by mis_chiff; 04-14-2012 at 09:36 AM.

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