How to Find Potential End Users? - Page 9

Damion · 04-17-2007, 03:38 PM

I did misinterpreted his post

panterrasbox · 04-17-2007, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Lasher

I think he means that the name is listed for 6 figures. Any of these could fetch 6 figures with the right buyer:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/68798-how-to-find-potential-end-users.html

LoanQuotes.com TrafficReport.com ConsumerSafety.com

Lasher is correct. Now I see Damion's point; I should have used a semicolon to make my sentence a little sturdier.

Anyway, we shall see what time will tell...

Damion · 04-18-2007, 04:59 AM

I noticed LoanQuotes.com mentioned in the Daily Domainer Newsletter today, nice exposure for your domain

Great domain you got there!

You should really develop it

panterrasbox · 04-18-2007, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Damion

I noticed LoanQuotes.com mentioned in the Daily Domainer Newsletter today, nice exposure for your domain

Great domain you got there!

You should really develop it

Yeah, thanks. I had to learn that there is a lot of the content in their email that is not on their site (or rather that even though some of their site content is in the newsletter, the newsletter is not on the site). So, I was skimming through quickly before rushing out the door, when it caught my eye. (The other day they answered I question I asked about eBay; I almost deleted the newsletter because I assumed it was a duplicate of the DailyDomainer.com Website - the question/answer presented on my site at DestinationWebsites.com. Though I have been domain-minded for a long time, I am new to the domainer community and am realizing how much there is to learn).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68798

Anyway, their appraisal was lower than I wanted to hear, but still in line with one I actually paid to have done a little while ago. Not to say that I necessarily believe in paying for appraisals, because I am thinking I don't. However, I do appreciate the thoughts provided by the DailyDomainer. Ultimately, it is the market (buyer and seller) that will truly determine the price.

Having taken a retail-type position with this domain, I think I probably will do some sort of development as you suggest. I recently ignored an offer for $10k. Not sure what it will actually bring, but I aim to find out. It is the end user (i.e. bank, mortgage/credit company, etc...) that I want to reach. A little "shining up" ought to help. Thanks, and God bless us everyone!

Damion · 04-18-2007, 12:09 PM

Send you a PM with a suggestion

panterrasbox · 04-19-2007, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Damion

Send you a PM with a suggestion

Yep, some great ideas [for my very-limited development "budget"]; thank you. True, in my opinion, that the better developed a domain/site is, or the more traffic it is receiving, the greater the interest by prospective buyers (and thus, the higher the value).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68798

While it is nice to turn an asset into a sale and move on, I also realize that having held it for so long, why not take a little more time if it can make a dramatic difference in the value - as well as the potential cash flow.

All this is said in keeping with the title of the thread: Make it easier for the potential end users to find you - or at least to be able to have more to talk to them about when you find them.

(Not exactly what I wanted to hear either since I had a sell-it-now attitude at first. But, we want to do our best, right?)!

Lasher · 04-19-2007, 11:01 AM

There's a paradox here. If you decide you're going to hold the domain, develop it into a business then it doesn't apply. But when you're developing a site to try to generate revenue while you wait for the end user to come along, a couple of things to be cautious of:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68798

1. Any kind of 'this site/domain is for sale' banner might put off potential users. Particularly if there is any kind of community atmosphere involved such as blog rolls, forums, user posted content etc.

2. Developing a site well and NOT putting a banner up might cause prospective buyers to not even bother contacting you.

3. If you're just going to stick up an MFA site (made for adsense) with scraped content that really ads no value to the internet that isn't already there, you might be better off (financially and in terms of time) just sticking with a simple well optimized landing page.

Very interested to hear other people's thoughts on this.

Either way, it's a great domain, good luck with it!

1901gt · 05-04-2007, 11:15 AM

Well, so far I've sold two domains for $500 each using tips from this thread. Lolx.

Lasher · 05-04-2007, 11:41 AM

How many emails did you have to send out to make those sales, and do you mind if I ask what markets they were in?

1901gt · 05-04-2007, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Lasher

How many emails did you have to send out to make those sales, and do you mind if I ask what markets they were in?

I have a wide range of domain coming from different industries.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68798
In both email, I've include a DATELINE of not more than 5 days for them to response.

Charley · 05-05-2007, 01:52 AM

What was the subject of your email? Any example !!

Quote:

I have a wide range of domain coming from different industries.
In both email, I've include a DATELINE of not more than 5 days for them to response.

1901gt · 05-05-2007, 05:33 AM

<domain name> for sale!!!!

OR

I'm Selling <Domain Name> To You!

panterrasbox · 05-05-2007, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by adiboy

Well, so far I've sold two domains for $500 each using tips from this thread. Lolx.

Congratulations!

On Thursday I decided to take my own advice and pick up the phone in checking to see if there might be any interest in an undeveloped news-related domain I have. First I spent quite a while trying to find specific contact numbers for several companies including Yahoo! and Google. For the latter two, I ended up calling their general numbers. In both cases my requests to talk to someone in Marketing were rebuffed and I was referred to an online form. Usually I am able to get a lot further than that. What really helps is if you have a specific contact name or referral from someone you know.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68798

That does not mean I will give up on trying to make phone contact whenever possible, but it does reinforce what people are saying here about the importance of sending carefully-prepared emails!

Anyway, I am usually optimistic, but I am not carrying too much hope for hearing back from anyone whose form I used. But I'll let you know if I do.

Lasher · 05-05-2007, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by panterrasbox

Anyway, I am usually optimistic, but I am not carrying too much hope for hearing back from anyone whose form I used. But I'll let you know if I do.

I've bought a few batches of domains in bulk in the past, and usually find myself with a trademark or two, not typos but the actual company name in a TLD other than .COM (or in one case the .COM when their company was a non-generic .NET).

Out of 15 or so emails or contact forms explaining the situation and offering to give (not sell or barter) the domains to them rather than let them drop where they'll be picked up by someone else, I've never received a single response. Maybe they think it's a scam, or maybe they just don't care.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68798

Nowadays I just delete them, not worth the hassle trying to do someone a favor who doesn't even respond..

Markith · 05-15-2007, 02:56 PM

Anyone have a good professional letter template or an example of a letter offering a domain for sale to a company/person who may be interested?

One that has been successful would be best! Anything appreciated.

Charley · 05-16-2007, 01:21 AM

I would choose the first one as the second one doesn't seem all that professional.

Quote:

<domain name> for sale!!!!

OR

I'm Selling <Domain Name> To You!

panterrasbox · 05-22-2007, 06:41 PM

In a followup to my previous post, I did actually receive a call back from one of the news and information companies I contacted a few weeks ago. Then, after sending an email to another one yesterday, I received another reply this morning.

If you swing at the ball you could strike out. But if you don't swing, you will never make a home run - in fact, you will never even hit the ball.

pexus1976 · 06-12-2007, 01:53 PM

Excellent posts.

Just sold my first domain for $xxx high. Thanks for all the tips

dotnom · 06-12-2007, 02:42 PM

How do you present your self ?
As a single individual or a company related with domains ?
What worked best for you ?

dotnom · 06-13-2007, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by dotnom

How do you present your self ?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68798
As a single individual or a company related with domains ?
What worked best for you ?

What's your opinion about this ?

The reason i ask is because both have advantages and disadvantages

If you tell them you are a simple user that didn't have time to develop the name they may try to trow a low bait, you lower the credibility value of your offer and you may be treated as a random guy that they can sweep easily

If you tell the you're a company may sound too promotional, may afraid of the offer, deny it because they think it has some sort of catch or several other things

What worked better for you and how your customers reacted with your approach ?

dgridley · 06-18-2007, 02:35 AM

My number 1 thing is NEVER overlook sales to end-users OFFLINE.. think outside the box and approach people offline a bit as there are many businesses who may not be "online" but may be interested in the idea. Could be your next end-user is right next door!

NameBaby · 07-13-2007, 06:56 PM

i own buraubay(.)com

its DMOZ listed and PR3
do i contact the owner of www.mutiara-buraubay.com?
is it a copyrighted domain?

namegame · 07-17-2007, 03:20 PM

When contacting a number of companies in the same business, is it more adviseable to only mention one name or all names I have that apply to that business in the same email or letter? Does listing more than one dilute the potential offers or might it help in getting multiple offers from the same buyer? For example, it I'm offering flowers.com should I only offer it or also offer flowershop.com, roses.com, florist.com, floraldesigns.com, and weddingflowers.com etc.? It seems counter-productive to contact the potential buyers over and over again with a new name.

kwakkwak · 07-19-2007, 04:09 AM

this is a fantastic thread with many tips and tools. Maybe i will use them in the future.

regards

elina · 07-28-2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Tippy

I personally wouldnt use a gmail, hotmail or yahoo email account to contact possible buyers, it just doesnt look pro to me, use one of your own Domains if possible.

Is it always a necessary that we should use our own domain mail service to get the customer. Does the use of gmail or yahoo make a lot of difference?

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Lasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,223	There's a paradox here. If you decide you're going to hold the domain, develop it into a business then it doesn't apply. But when you're developing a site to try to generate revenue while you wait for the end user to come along, a couple of things to be cautious of: ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68798 1. Any kind of 'this site/domain is for sale' banner might put off potential users. Particularly if there is any kind of community atmosphere involved such as blog rolls, forums, user posted content etc. 2. Developing a site well and NOT putting a banner up might cause prospective buyers to not even bother contacting you. 3. If you're just going to stick up an MFA site (made for adsense) with scraped content that really ads no value to the internet that isn't already there, you might be better off (financially and in terms of time) just sticking with a simple well optimized landing page. Very interested to hear other people's thoughts on this. Either way, it's a great domain, good luck with it!

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