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partall · 04-01-2010, 09:29 PM

I agree too. The domain names really affects the ranking, if you have unique domain. But to stay on top, you have to keep on doing SEO.

kevinnrobert · 04-02-2010, 12:45 AM

While pure CSS menues are not really a trick most people still assume that you need JavaScript or other enhancements to make dynamic menus. Well it’s not true, many advanced CSS only menus offer slick interactivity while being the best choice for Google and other search engine spiders.

arnoldsmithh · 04-27-2010, 03:52 AM

WeightLost.com is good rather than Weight-Lost.com

jimmypagesolo · 04-27-2010, 05:03 AM

domain name is very important, but keep in mind the second is the good content and the third is the more good backlinks you have, the higher rank you gain. Do submit site to social network sites, bookmarking sites, comment for blog, write unique article, link building manage.

czb1972 · 04-27-2010, 07:37 AM

I use hyphen and non hyphen domains. I have not seen any difference in ranking. I always look to see if the non hyphen domain is being used. If not, I buy the hyphen domain.

The keyword in your domain name is very important for ranking. New domains even more. Google is looking for relevance. So if some is doing a search for ‘debt’ and it sees you have ‘debt’ in your domain, in your keywords, in your description, in your body text, and anchor text back links to your website, your website will be ranked higher than domain with no ‘debt’ in it.

That is what I always try to do.

agraj1 · 04-28-2010, 02:26 AM

hello,
for SEO it doesn't matter a lot that what domain name you have with hyphen or without hyphen. But personally i will suggest you to go with without hyphen, since it is easy to remember such url's. The keyword you are trying to target is highly competitive, just you have to be active with your website, use social networking site, get back links. And if possible then use PPC or CPC program.

fattaah · 04-30-2010, 01:32 AM

whatever the domain name it doesn't any matter to the search engine ranking.some sites are always come top in the Google and they don't have keyword in their domain name.

jmarch · 04-30-2010, 04:28 AM

I would go unhyphenated but also consider the branding aspects if you want to build a business.

Mesa SEO Solutions · 04-30-2010, 03:34 PM

The reality is that search engines can easily figure out what your sites name is no matter how you present it to them. Just don't use your business name replace it with your primary keyword phrase and you will do well.

seoservices · 05-01-2010, 02:59 PM

i will go for non hyphenated domain because your potential visitors could quite easily forget that your domain name is hyphenated, and if you chose your domain name because someone already had the unhyphenated version that means they are getting your hard earned traffic especially frustrating if they're your competitor.

renudiz · 05-08-2010, 01:45 AM

I think Weight-Lost.com is better for SEO.

**Robin** · 05-08-2010, 03:01 AM

According to non hyphen rank better than hyphen. But if non hyphen is not available then take hyphen.

Mesa SEO Solutions · 05-08-2010, 03:27 PM

From a search engine perspective to does not matter these days. It may have made a difference in the early days of the internet but no longer. The search engine are much better than they used to be.

**enlytend** · 05-10-2010, 06:01 AM

Can't believe this thread has gotten to be 2 pages long!!! *

Honestly, if you're THAT obsessed with hyphen vs no-hyphen, you're missing the big picture and have a LOT to learn about optimizing a site for organic search

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SEO's a little bit like cooking: a pinch of this, a dash of that and let it simmer for a while. Doesn't matter so much whether you used fresh chives or frozen ones as long as the end result tastes good.

*Though I dare say a lot of the replies are new members promoting their signature links

czb1972 · 05-11-2010, 12:14 AM

Enlytend - So what are you saying? It makes no diffs?

I have been doing SEO for only 1 year now and see hyphen websites rank very well, but I have not been able to test it. Have you?

**enlytend** · 05-11-2010, 03:35 AM

That's exactly what I'm saying. KeywordKeyword or Keyword-Keyword - UNLESS the meaning of the keywords run together is ambiguous, search engines can parse either equally well. And if they ARE ambiguous, the engines will figure it out from the site content. Search engines aren't as "literal" as they were in 1998 - they understand meaning and semantic relationships between words.
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IOW, it's all good, don't make yourself crazy. Do what's best for your visitors.

Keyword in the domain is only one of 200+ ranking factors, and it's not currently considered to be in the top 5. Instead of agonizing ad nauseum over one detail of one ranking factor, spend some time on the other 199

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Ideally, you also want to rank for a lot of keywords, and they can't ALL be in the domain!

As for testing: No, I personally haven't tested it. It takes 100 sites minimum for test results to be statistically valid. They should be on different IP's, content different enough that duplicate content penalties don't flavor the results. If you have the time to do that, go for it

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kevinnrobert New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3	While pure CSS menues are not really a trick most people still assume that you need JavaScript or other enhancements to make dynamic menus. Well it’s not true, many advanced CSS only menus offer slick interactivity while being the best choice for Google and other search engine spiders.

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czb1972 New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 4	I use hyphen and non hyphen domains. I have not seen any difference in ranking. I always look to see if the non hyphen domain is being used. If not, I buy the hyphen domain. The keyword in your domain name is very important for ranking. New domains even more. Google is looking for relevance. So if some is doing a search for ‘debt’ and it sees you have ‘debt’ in your domain, in your keywords, in your description, in your body text, and anchor text back links to your website, your website will be ranked higher than domain with no ‘debt’ in it. That is what I always try to do.

04-28-2010, 02:26 AM	#31 (permalink)
agraj1 New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8	hello, for SEO it doesn't matter a lot that what domain name you have with hyphen or without hyphen. But personally i will suggest you to go with without hyphen, since it is easy to remember such url's. The keyword you are trying to target is highly competitive, just you have to be active with your website, use social networking site, get back links. And if possible then use PPC or CPC program.

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Mesa SEO Solutions NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 137	The reality is that search engines can easily figure out what your sites name is no matter how you present it to them. Just don't use your business name replace it with your primary keyword phrase and you will do well. __________________ Google Places Local SEO Services Tucson Phoenix Scottsdale SEO Google Places Citations Tucson Phoenix Glendale Scottsdale Flagstaff Yuma Google Places Citations Tempe Mesa Chandler

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seoservices New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 7	i will go for non hyphenated domain because your potential visitors could quite easily forget that your domain name is hyphenated, and if you chose your domain name because someone already had the unhyphenated version that means they are getting your hard earned traffic especially frustrating if they're your competitor.

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enlytend Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,147 Follow @enlytend	Can't believe this thread has gotten to be 2 pages long!!! * Honestly, if you're THAT obsessed with hyphen vs no-hyphen, you're missing the big picture and have a LOT to learn about optimizing a site for organic search ! ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/search-engines/639300-which-is-better-search-engine-optimization.html SEO's a little bit like cooking: a pinch of this, a dash of that and let it simmer for a while. Doesn't matter so much whether you used fresh chives or frozen ones as long as the end result tastes good. Though I dare say a lot of the replies are new members promoting their signature links __________________ Enlytend Solutions - Internet marketing and web development Was my advice helpful? Please consider a small donation to the National Canine Cancer Foundation - a tax deductible 501(c)(3)that directly funds cancer research Last edited by enlytend; 05-10-2010 at 08:17 AM.*

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05-11-2010, 03:35 AM	#41 (permalink)
enlytend Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,147 Follow @enlytend	That's exactly what I'm saying. KeywordKeyword or Keyword-Keyword - UNLESS the meaning of the keywords run together is ambiguous, search engines can parse either equally well. And if they ARE ambiguous, the engines will figure it out from the site content. Search engines aren't as "literal" as they were in 1998 - they understand meaning and semantic relationships between words. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=639300 IOW, it's all good, don't make yourself crazy. Do what's best for your visitors. Keyword in the domain is only one of 200+ ranking factors, and it's not currently considered to be in the top 5. Instead of agonizing ad nauseum over one detail of one ranking factor, spend some time on the other 199 . Ideally, you also want to rank for a lot of keywords, and they can't ALL be in the domain! As for testing: No, I personally haven't tested it. It takes 100 sites minimum for test results to be statistically valid. They should be on different IP's, content different enough that duplicate content penalties don't flavor the results. If you have the time to do that, go for it . __________________ Enlytend Solutions - Internet marketing and web development Was my advice helpful? Please consider a small donation to the National Canine Cancer Foundation - a tax deductible 501(c)(3)that directly funds cancer research Last edited by enlytend; 05-11-2010 at 03:47 AM.