'halvarez' at Snapnames auctions uncovered - Page 10

deb · 11-04-2009, 08:48 PM

Still a lot of "Stuff" to come out over the next week as things develop and the Forensic Accountants get to work...

"Especially when Kjel has been defending Halvarez as a high-volume customer and adamantly denied Snapnames was ever shill-bidding!"

Acroplex · 11-04-2009, 08:54 PM

The "forensic accountants" is a company hired by Oversee to protect their interest and their assets against litigation, while minimizing financial damage: Rust Consulting Inc., the Leader in Class Action Settlement Administration > Home

So, anyone want to blindly take that 'blood money' rebate yet? It will arrive with a contract to sign. I can imagine that a class action lawsuit would really hit the spot; it will take a day or two before independent attorneys get a whiff of this manure piling up.

Oversee: reinstate the Snapanems auction history immediately!

MakrsChick · 11-04-2009, 08:55 PM

Here is the deal:

I have privacy protection at SN. If a third party is going through the stuff at SN they will know what I have. That alone is a big case.

robertjr · 11-04-2009, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Acroplex

reinstate immediately the auction history

I could not agree more!

It's unacceptable to ask a customer to trust a third party after such a fiasco. "Trust, but Verify" The only way to rebuild a relationship in such a situation.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/621078-halvarez-at-snapnames-auctions-uncovered.html

With over 150 winning auctions during this time period, I'm not looking forward to going through them all.

Acroplex · 11-04-2009, 09:02 PM

Exactly. Any auction of domains at Snapnames that halvarez participated MUST be accounted for.

daj · 11-04-2009, 09:02 PM

Namejet seizes the opportunity to announce no shill bidding ever takes place at Namejet:
Namejet seizes the opportunity to announce no shill bidding ever takes place at Namejet | DomainGang

LOL...seizes the opportunity for sure.
Has anyone suspected that POOL.com has had shill bidding take place?
I've read on a number of occasions how others have said
they make you compete against yourself in bidding wars as well
(in order to make more money). Isn't that also questionable?

Acroplex · 11-04-2009, 09:08 PM

daj, that's a real email though. Not a spoof; the Editorial section at DomainGang.com is about cauterizing reality. So yes, Namejet is taking that opportunity to kick Snapnames while it's down.

deb · 11-04-2009, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Acroplex

Exactly. Any auction of domains at Snapnames that halvarez participated MUST be accounted for.

From what date?

Acroplex · 11-04-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by deb

From what date?

From the day "halvarez" was created as an account. That's the minimum acceptable; of course, there might be other accounts that performed the same trick.

deb · 11-04-2009, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Acroplex

From the day "halvarez" was created as an account. That's the minimum acceptable; of course, there might be other accounts that performed the same trick.

Acroplex "The "forensic accountants" is a company hired by Oversee to protect their interest and their assets against litigation, while minimizing financial damage: Rust Consulting Inc., the Leader in Class Action Settlement Administration"
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=621078

These are Big Questions that need answering SOON please Rob

*euroflash* · 11-04-2009, 09:39 PM

Could someone please explain why he would get a partial refund when winning auctions?

cmason · 11-04-2009, 09:42 PM

DNJournal's take on the scandal with images of the shill.

**-Nick-** · 11-04-2009, 09:47 PM

Well he was on almost all auctions that I tried in 2006

But then I backed out and don't know what happened to those domains. [As I assume he wasn't buying them all up]

So Snapnames did lost lots of real customers too, due to this guy.

daj · 11-04-2009, 09:49 PM

Guy looks possessed. Such cold dark eyes.
Maybe they should also check his house for dead bodies.

deb · 11-04-2009, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by daj

Guy looks possessed. Such cold dark eyes.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=621078
Maybe they should also check his house for dead bodies.

Maybe we should hear his story....im sure he knows where the bodies are buried but will he spill "Industry Secrets" along the way? Probably Yes to take the spotlight off him imo

maxeaus · 11-04-2009, 10:10 PM

I laughed my head off when i received this email today in my inbox, i have publicly stated my position on these sites before, that they are DODGY. I have never used these sites and never will as long as this type of garbage goes on.

It's about time these companies cleaned up their act.

NP's is the only site i trust 100% when running an auction IMO.

Originally Posted by daj

Namejet seizes the opportunity to announce no shill bidding ever takes place at Namejet:
Namejet seizes the opportunity to announce no shill bidding ever takes place at Namejet | DomainGang

LOL...seizes the opportunity for sure.
Has anyone suspected that POOL.com has had shill bidding take place?
I've read on a number of occasions how others have said
they make you compete against yourself in bidding wars as well
(in order to make more money). Isn't that also questionable?

deb · 11-04-2009, 10:27 PM

Snapnames was and Still is the Leader in Dropping Domains....they are a Great Company spoiled by a "Few Rotten Eggs". The company Has Done the Right Thing and i am sure one way or another things will work out "Fairly" for all involved.

A tip - be Very Careful of RUST's Agenda.

bmugford · 11-04-2009, 10:33 PM

4 years of repeated warnings to SnapNames about Halvarez. They have defended the bidder in the past saying he was a high volume customer.

They were either unwilling, or unable to catch him sooner. It had to effect so many divisions of SnapNames I have a hard time believing this has not been known for awhile. How was this hidden from accounting for over 4 years?

I have used SnapNames.com a lot, but in my opinion this could be a death blow to the company, and everything under Oversee.net is tarnished.

There is more to this story which I am sure will come out.

Brad

Originally Posted by deb

Snapnames was and Still is the Leader in Dropping Domains....they are a Great Company spoiled by a "Few Rotten Eggs". The company Has Done the Right Thing and i am sure one way or another things will work out "Fairly" for all involved.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=621078

A tip - be Very Careful of RUST's Agenda.

Jaco · 11-04-2009, 10:38 PM

There isn't even anything about Rust Consultings "agenda" to be careful about. It's all very much up-front.

They are what they are; dog-waggers, pure and simple. They are paid (probably enormous sums of) money by businesses in trouble to get their heads out of the mousetrap, perform miracles of damage control and mitigate liability outlays. They're basically the corporate equivalent of Winston Wolf

"Oh, crap... Some janitor left the lunchroom door open at Capital One, a kid snuck in and stole three laptops containing the names and social security numbers of 2,000,000 people... CEO Of Capital One: Call Rust Consulting..."

"Crap... Some pervert hid cameras in fifty hotel rooms at fifty different Holiday Inns... CEO of Holiday Inn: Call Rust Consulting..."

"Crap... Some employee at Casino XYZ was running a slot machine fraud and manipulated 600 machines, played buy tens of thousands of customers over the last 5 years... CEO of Casino XYZ: Get Rust on the line..."

"Crap... Some pencil-necked computer geek at an online domain name auction house had been manipulating the auctions for the past few years, to the tune of many millions of dollars in fraudulent bid prices... CEO At Oversee: Get on the phone to Rust...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=621078

There are outfits like this in the airline industry that get the phone call whenever a plane crashes, they have 'em in politics and RUST apparently makes a damn good business out of handling calamities for businesses that suffer some sort of catastrophic failure of policy that places them in the liability crosshairs.

MakrsChick · 11-04-2009, 10:41 PM

I know people received emails from SnapNames about this in the past. Please forward them to me, as I'm building a case against them. I have few evidence, but I need more. Thanks in advance.

Jaco · 11-04-2009, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by MakrsChick

I know people received emails from SnapNames about this in the past. Please forward them to me, as I'm building a case against them. I have few evidence, but I need more. Thanks in advance.

Who are you?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=621078
Because if I were "Rust Consulting" or an Oversee attorney, I'd do something very similar to this in an effort to gather as many loose ends as possible so I know where I stood; where I had deniability and what I could 'make disappear', what I couldn't deny and generally, what I was up against... It's probably best for no one to divulge anything unless it's to their lawyer.

deb · 11-04-2009, 10:43 PM

I have over 850 Snapnames Auctions with a 98% Win success rate since Nov-2004 Halvarez was in roughly 40% and second highest bidder....

CureCancer · 11-04-2009, 10:45 PM

LOL

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4828/snapnames.jpg

**Michelle** · 11-04-2009, 11:18 PM

Snap

They knew

daj · 11-04-2009, 11:19 PM

Maybe this is also slightly relevant to some of you who think Oversee.net is such a decent company...
it's from back in 2006-2007 when oversee.net was involved in domain squatting, tasting, and phishing under various other "holding" companies.

Quote:

To summarize:

Chesterton Holdings swipe domains following whois searches in online whois portals
Chesterton Holdings register those domains through NameKing.com
Chesterton Holdings use the Information.com service to monetize the domains
The same goes for Jucco, Munchale, and LaPorte, and all of the other "holdings" companies.

And the link to Oversee.net?

Oversee.net own NameKing.com, their pet domain registrar
Oversee.net own DomainSponsor, which operates Information.com
Oversee.net share a corporate HQ with Chesterton Holdings

Interesting timeline:

Quote:

Sep 2004 - Karsten M. Self identifies domainsponsor.com as a homepage hijacking site

Dec 2005 - A blogger details AdWords clickfraud involving searchportal.information.com

Dec 2005 - Respected Search Engine Watch (and now Search Engine Land) editor Danny Sullivan declares Google AdSense For Domains Program Overdue For Reform

Dec 2005 - Microsoft Research includes information.com and domainsponsor.com in a list of Typo-Squatting Domains that Serve Questionable Advertisements

Dec 2005 - AdWords for Domain Garbage Traffic thread on SEW forum illustrates search traffic pattern that suggest click fraud: "The proportion of the search traffic is way out of line (Google 20%, domainsponsor 29%, information 41%)"

Jan 2006 - Search Engines Making Millions Off Type-In Traffic From Domains

Apr 2006 - Click Fraud thread on SEO Chat says, "virtually all of google traffic is coming from searchportal.information.com"

Jun 2006 - Oversee.net Buys Domain Portfolio of 35,000 Names, CEO claims, "An estimated 10-20% of paid search traffic now comes through direct navigation. This provides a great opportunity for Oversee.net, which has a rich history in this space."

Jul 2006 - An outfit called Chesterton Holdings is exposed as a "domain tasting" rat

Sep 2006 - Chesterton Holdings shares the same corporate address as the Oversee.net company headquarters?

Sep 2006 - Oversee.net Completes Acquisition of Ten Domain Portfolios
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=621078

Nov 2006 - Oversee.net posts a 640% growth rate through 2005

Dec 2006 - Jeffrey K. Rohrs drafts The Sausage Manifesto, An Open Letter to Paid Search Networks on Behalf of PPC Advertisers

Jan 2007 - I pose this question: Is Google Partnered with Spammers?

Links about this:
Spam Links Blog: Chesterton Holdings are swiping spammers' domains from under their noses - but who are "Chesterton"?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=621078
Spam Links Blog: Oversee.net's Chesterton Holdings carry on domain swiping as Maltuzi Holdings
Apogee Weblog: Not Search Engine Spam

The whole company is shady, and has been since it's conception, as far as I'm concerned.

11-04-2009, 08:54 PM	#227 (permalink)
Acroplex Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,862	The "forensic accountants" is a company hired by Oversee to protect their interest and their assets against litigation, while minimizing financial damage: Rust Consulting Inc., the Leader in Class Action Settlement Administration > Home So, anyone want to blindly take that 'blood money' rebate yet? It will arrive with a contract to sign. I can imagine that a class action lawsuit would really hit the spot; it will take a day or two before independent attorneys get a whiff of this manure piling up. Oversee: reinstate the Snapanems auction history immediately! __________________ DomainGang.com - Digital Entertainment for Domainers Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog

11-04-2009, 09:02 PM	#230 (permalink)
Acroplex Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,862	Exactly. Any auction of domains at Snapnames that halvarez participated MUST be accounted for. __________________ DomainGang.com - Digital Entertainment for Domainers Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog

11-04-2009, 09:02 PM	#231 (permalink)
daj Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,092	Namejet seizes the opportunity to announce no shill bidding ever takes place at Namejet: Namejet seizes the opportunity to announce no shill bidding ever takes place at Namejet \| DomainGang LOL...seizes the opportunity for sure. Has anyone suspected that POOL.com has had shill bidding take place? I've read on a number of occasions how others have said they make you compete against yourself in bidding wars as well (in order to make more money). Isn't that also questionable? Last edited by daj; 11-04-2009 at 09:14 PM.

11-04-2009, 09:08 PM	#232 (permalink)
Acroplex Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,862	daj, that's a real email though. Not a spoof; the Editorial section at DomainGang.com is about cauterizing reality. So yes, Namejet is taking that opportunity to kick Snapnames while it's down. __________________ DomainGang.com - Digital Entertainment for Domainers Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog

11-04-2009, 09:47 PM	#238 (permalink)
-Nick- I'll do it Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: India Posts: 6,927 Follow @keralpatel	Well he was on almost all auctions that I tried in 2006 But then I backed out and don't know what happened to those domains. [As I assume he wasn't buying them all up] So Snapnames did lost lots of real customers too, due to this guy. __________________ Delq\|Fhur\|Kegh\|Vhir\|Juhy\|Ruuz\|Jyos\|Jupt\|Vhek Webmaster Blog \| Software Downloads Makeup & Beauty Tips \| Sponsor Ads

11-04-2009, 08:48 PM	#226 (permalink)
deb NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 509 Follow @polarbeartrust	Still a lot of "Stuff" to come out over the next week as things develop and the Forensic Accountants get to work... "Especially when Kjel has been defending Halvarez as a high-volume customer and adamantly denied Snapnames was ever shill-bidding!"

11-04-2009, 08:55 PM	#228 (permalink)
MakrsChick Account Closed Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2	Here is the deal: I have privacy protection at SN. If a third party is going through the stuff at SN they will know what I have. That alone is a big case.

11-04-2009, 09:39 PM	#236 (permalink)
euroflash NamePros Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 759	Could someone please explain why he would get a partial refund when winning auctions?

11-04-2009, 09:42 PM	#237 (permalink)
cmason Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,282 Follow @ColeMason	DNJournal's take on the scandal with images of the shill.

11-04-2009, 09:49 PM	#239 (permalink)
daj Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,092	Guy looks possessed. Such cold dark eyes. Maybe they should also check his house for dead bodies.

11-04-2009, 10:27 PM	#242 (permalink)
deb NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 509 Follow @polarbeartrust	Snapnames was and Still is the Leader in Dropping Domains....they are a Great Company spoiled by a "Few Rotten Eggs". The company Has Done the Right Thing and i am sure one way or another things will work out "Fairly" for all involved. A tip - be Very Careful of RUST's Agenda.

11-04-2009, 10:38 PM	#244 (permalink)
Jaco Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 1,442	There isn't even anything about Rust Consultings "agenda" to be careful about. It's all very much up-front. They are what they are; dog-waggers, pure and simple. They are paid (probably enormous sums of) money by businesses in trouble to get their heads out of the mousetrap, perform miracles of damage control and mitigate liability outlays. They're basically the corporate equivalent of Winston Wolf "Oh, crap... Some janitor left the lunchroom door open at Capital One, a kid snuck in and stole three laptops containing the names and social security numbers of 2,000,000 people... CEO Of Capital One: Call Rust Consulting..." "Crap... Some pervert hid cameras in fifty hotel rooms at fifty different Holiday Inns... CEO of Holiday Inn: Call Rust Consulting..." "Crap... Some employee at Casino XYZ was running a slot machine fraud and manipulated 600 machines, played buy tens of thousands of customers over the last 5 years... CEO of Casino XYZ: Get Rust on the line..." "Crap... Some pencil-necked computer geek at an online domain name auction house had been manipulating the auctions for the past few years, to the tune of many millions of dollars in fraudulent bid prices... CEO At Oversee: Get on the phone to Rust... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=621078 There are outfits like this in the airline industry that get the phone call whenever a plane crashes, they have 'em in politics and RUST apparently makes a damn good business out of handling calamities for businesses that suffer some sort of catastrophic failure of policy that places them in the liability crosshairs. Last edited by Jaco; 11-04-2009 at 10:53 PM.

11-04-2009, 10:41 PM	#245 (permalink)
MakrsChick Account Closed Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2	I know people received emails from SnapNames about this in the past. Please forward them to me, as I'm building a case against them. I have few evidence, but I need more. Thanks in advance.

11-04-2009, 10:43 PM	#247 (permalink)
deb NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 509 Follow @polarbeartrust	I have over 850 Snapnames Auctions with a 98% Win success rate since Nov-2004 Halvarez was in roughly 40% and second highest bidder....

11-04-2009, 10:45 PM	#248 (permalink)
CureCancer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,165	LOL http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4828/snapnames.jpg __________________ Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth. Abraham Lincoln

11-04-2009, 11:18 PM	#249 (permalink)
Michelle Be Happy... Don't Worry Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 16,047	Snap They knew

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