The future of .TV - Page 4

freedom30 · 08-02-2009, 08:43 PM

I certainly appreciate the input from ALL who are and have posted here. The responses, for the most part, have been intelligent, entertaining and engaging. Whether we happen to agree or disagree, it is refreshing to sustain a discussion with the protocol that we have experienced here up to this point. I wish to thank all here for your input as I have learned more on this thread than in the years I have been in this enterprise.
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I find that many times one learns from history, and since I only came about this circa 2006(a johnny-come-lately if there ever was one) I have noticed the similarities as well as differences in early .com and late .tv.

Although those who posted differing views seem persuasive, my feeling about .tv and their archaic premiums remains the same. Whether it appears as a domainers pov(point of view) to me is irrelevant as history seems to have displayed a different direction in the form of .com's rites of passage. This only solidifies my perception of the course they need to take to at least start to become more, not less, competitive.

At any rate, it is, of course, out of my hands and in the playbook of Verisign, I guess. But the history of extensions success or failure does beg the question, "can the playing field be level to the profit or success of .tv?"

Realize that the extension is not competing with .com, it has its own niches, and that fact must be seen. I see a lot more development down the road had .tv been down to earth with its reg fees, cancel premiums and forget lofty "pie in the sky" prices that the hungry suits at Verisign are dreaming of.

My opinion is that, along with the economic state of the world and the continuing demise of the parked page (for all extensions), adding another brick on an extension such as .tv as they are doing hurts, not helps, the extension.

Now that leads me to another question, if I may. I am beginning to realize that the parked page is going the way of the eight track tape. Is there something on the horizon that will take its place or are those domainers that put their trust in ppc(or ppv?) going to take a bath? Is there another technoevolutionary path toward a new system of monetization? Or is this it?

localexperts · 08-02-2009, 09:10 PM

Look PPC is not going anywhere until one of the competing business models offer parking solutions.

Pay Per Lead Companies have higher CPM than PPC companies (outside of the big three)

However, none of the Pay Per Lead Companies (IAC, Leads.com, respond.com, Reply.com, etc) have offered Parking Solutions. i built my own parking solution which is a Pay Per lead version of Marchex's OpenList solution.

One other issue, Pay Per Lead Companies specailize in local categories, which is the reason why PPC has remained the defato standard because PPC is universal across all categories.

If you have a local category, in almost all cased Pay Per Lead offers higher return per visitor than PPC. I have websites where I get $1.00 per visitor. That isn't always the case, but it can be done in Pay Per Lead, not PPC

Your answer - Until you start developing, I'm afaird Parking and Parking (Version 2.0) also called MiniSites is your answer.

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Originally Posted by freedom30

going to take a bath? Is there another technoevolutionary path toward a new system of monetization? Or is this it?

I think people miss this point, for most advertisers they either want
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a) a customer
b) a lead
c) a call
d) a click
e) an impression

however you shake it, whatever way you slice it - all models are variants of these five primary ways that advertisers get new customers.

freedom30 · 08-02-2009, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by localexperts

...Your answer - Until you start developing, I'm afaird Parking and Parking (Version 2.0) also called MiniSites is your answer.
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---------- Post added at 12:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:03 AM ----------

I think people miss this point, for most advertisers they either want

a) a customer
b) a lead
c) a call
d) a click
e) an impression

however you shake it, whatever way you slice it - all models are variants of these five primary ways that advertisers get new customers.

I have found that out. With the few sites I have developed using wordpress and magnify.net, I have made more than the total amount of domains I have on sedo and whypark. Developing trumps parking lots, at least in my case.

snoop · 08-02-2009, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by freedom30

I certainly appreciate the input from ALL who are and have posted here. The responses, for the most part, have been intelligent, entertaining and engaging. Whether we happen to agree or disagree, it is refreshing to sustain a discussion with the protocol that we have experienced here up to this point. I wish to thank all here for your input as I have learned more on this thread than in the years I have been in this enterprise.

I find that many times one learns from history, and since I only came about this circa 2006(a johnny-come-lately if there ever was one) I have noticed the similarities as well as differences in early .com and late .tv.

Although those who posted differing views seem persuasive, my feeling about .tv and their archaic premiums remains the same. Whether it appears as a domainers pov(point of view) to me is irrelevant as history seems to have displayed a different direction in the form of .com's rites of passage. This only solidifies my perception of the course they need to take to at least start to become more, not less, competitive.

At any rate, it is, of course, out of my hands and in the playbook of Verisign, I guess. But the history of extensions success or failure does beg the question, "can the playing field be level to the profit or success of .tv?"

Realize that the extension is not competing with .com, it has its own niches, and that fact must be seen. I see a lot more development down the road had .tv been down to earth with its reg fees, cancel premiums and forget lofty "pie in the sky" prices that the hungry suits at Verisign are dreaming of.

My opinion is that, along with the economic state of the world and the continuing demise of the parked page (for all extensions), adding another brick on an extension such as .tv as they are doing hurts, not helps, the extension.

When you look at it though, $50million was paid for .tv and personally I think it is somewhat of a cashcow because the renewals are so high. I suspect it is probably the most profitable of the rebranded domain extensions.

Going back in time what we are seeing now, domainers leaving the .tv space in droves or staying but dropping most of their names, is a repeat of what happened around 2002. Verisign will no doubt earn less for a while though give it another 3-5 years and speculators will probably have forgotten the past and be climbing all over overpriced premiums once again. I suspect it will be all the same old arguments, the video revolution is coming, Internet Tv, merging of TV and video etc.

Originally Posted by freedom30

Now that leads me to another question, if I may. I am beginning to realize that the parked page is going the way of the eight track tape. Is there something on the horizon that will take its place or are those domainers that put their trust in ppc(or ppv?) going to take a bath? Is there another technoevolutionary path toward a new system of monetization? Or is this it?

Personally I haven't seen anything sustainable. Lots of people trying mini sites though I don't think it scales myself.

localexperts · 08-02-2009, 09:56 PM

Another key point is that the person who controls the advertiser relationship makes the decisions.

Parking companies are dependent on Google and Yahoo/Bing to provide the advertisers

How many companies have the reach of the two largest search companies to provide a comprehensive advertiser list that crosses so many categories.

freedom30 · 08-02-2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

When you look at it though, $50million was paid for .tv and personally I think it is somewhat of a cashcow because the renewals are so high. I suspect it is probably the most profitable of the rebranded domain extensions.

Going back in time what we are seeing now, domainers leaving the .tv space in droves or staying but dropping most of their names, is a repeat of what happened around 2002. Verisign will no doubt earn less for a while though give it another 3-5 years and speculators will probably have forgotten the past and be climbing all over overpriced premiums once again. I suspect it will be all the same old arguments, the video revolution is coming, Internet Tv, merging of TV and video etc.
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By their actions then, I would be compelled to assume that they are anticipating quite a resounding rebound of the economy, as I have witnessed the dropped premium domain names skyrocket exponentially, many going from 3 figures to 4 and even at times 5 figures.

That, sir, is quite a leap of faith on Verisigns behalf that this economic slowdown will turnaround and they will experience a resurgence. It does sound rather confident that the economic stagnation we have today is not only waning but will flourish in an accelerated fashion.

I really see Verisign as being more of a gambler than speculator in the risk they are taking and potential loss they are willing to absorb. To my mind it does sound risky.

What you regard as the same old arguments I foresee as the niche that the extension fits into. As well as both you and I may realize that ALL extensions have that capability, it IS the very initials that have been branded for over half a century and the term TV that the world, not just the nation relate to. This hasn't changed over time and does not appear to change into the future as far as I can ascertain. It is just a branch, not the tree, of the internet extensions and can be a healthy one if allowed to grow.

I am not arguing and do not want to belabor the point, just stating the reason why I myself do find that this extension is a good one for several niches in the long tail and can accomodate the world with excellent developed sites that fit these niches. That would be my speculation at any rate. Many ambitious endusers that want to discover the extension will not get the opportunity to do this on a prohibitively expensive and exclusive fee.

Tempus fugit, as they say, and I would also venture to guess that things may evolve down the road, so same old arguments may not be a correct assertion. Just look at the past 10-20 years in the past and try to visualize 10-20 years into the future. Alot of ground will surely have transpired and this thread may be read with amusement 10 years from now like we looked at the TI99 4/a as a state of the art computer.

snoop · 08-02-2009, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by freedom30

By their actions then, I would be compelled to assume that they are anticipating quite a resounding rebound of the economy, as I have witnessed the dropped premium domain names skyrocket exponentially, many going from 3 figures to 4 and even at times 5 figures.

More likely they have done some trials and found they make more money be charging higher renewals depite the reduced number of sales. I think buydomains found much the same thing a while ago. It is very likely given what they have done, if it wasn't working it would have changed back to the old pricing by now.

Originally Posted by freedom30

That, sir, is quite a leap of faith on Verisigns behalf that this economic slowdown will turnaround and they will experience a resurgence. It does sound rather confident that the economic stagnation we have today is not only waning but will flourish in an accelerated fashion.

Nothing stays the same, generally expectations look to be improving to me. Make sure you are on the right side of the fence when things pick up.
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Originally Posted by freedom30

I really see Verisign as being more of a gambler than speculator in the risk they are taking and potential loss they are willing to absorb. To my mind it does sound risky.

They are neiher, I think this is a profitable business that they have.

Originally Posted by freedom30

What you regard as the same old arguments I foresee as the niche that the extension fits into. As well as both you and I may realize that ALL extensions have that capability, it IS the very initials that have been branded for over half a century and the term TV that the world, not just the nation relate to. This hasn't changed over time and does not appear to change into the future as far as I can ascertain. It is just a branch, not the tree, of the internet extensions and can be a healthy one if allowed to grow.

So what do you think will change?

.tv has always done badly for speculators and Verisign aren't ever likely to reduce registration even though it would be a gift for domainers. As we can see it is going the other way! I think it is more likely they'll keep raising prices rather than putting them down, like a good landlord they have a history of doing that.

Originally Posted by freedom30

just stating the reason why I myself do find that this extension is a good one for several niches in the long tail and can accomodate the world with excellent developed sites that fit these niches. That would be my speculation at any rate.

Agree, but that doesn't really help domainers, the above has always been the case. The extension has its niche, has always had a degree of enduser support.
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Originally Posted by freedom30

Many ambitious endusers that want to discover the extension will not get the opportunity to do this on a prohibitively expensive and exclusive fee.

I'm crying....seriously though who cares about any of this. Today's reality is what matter, not what could have been. Can we domainers make money from this extension? The answer seems to be no in the vast majority of examples. It is priced so that Verisign makes the money domain speculators would have made. There is nothing wrong with that, it is just no good for domainers.

Originally Posted by freedom30

Tempus fugit, as they say, and I would also venture to guess that things may evolve down the road, so same old arguments may not be a correct assertion. Just look at the past 10-20 years in the past and try to visualize 10-20 years into the future. Alot of ground will surely have transpired and this thread may be read with amusement 10 years from now like we looked at the TI99 4/a as a state of the art computer.

Let's me guess, you are vizualizing a world where domainers are suddenly making money from registering 3/4/5 figure premium names and regular names with $30 reg fees? Personally I think it is better to focus on what works today rather than trying to second guess the future. Let's face it 50% of the time we are wrong on those guesses, me inlcuded.

freedom30 · 08-03-2009, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

So what do you think will change?

.tv has always done badly for speculators and Verisign aren't ever likely to reduce registration even though it would be a gift for domainers. As we can see it is going the other way! I think it is more likely they'll keep raising prices rather than putting them down, like a good landlord they have a history of doing that.

Let's me guess, you are vizualizing a world where domainers are suddenly making money from registering 3/4/5 figure premium names and regular names with $30 reg fees? Personally I think it is better to focus on what works today rather than trying to second guess the future. Let's face it 50% of the time we are wrong on those guesses, me inlcuded.

Snoop, the points you elaborate on clarify to a certain extent the state of the extension vis-a-vis Verisign and its relation with domainers or speculators, if you will. While I appreciate and respect the ideas presented I seem to take exception, though, with just a point or two.

When you make mention of a "good" landlord, that may be a false analogy as a good landlord's priority would appear to be to make sure their building has as full an occupancy as they can have. I am looking at the landlord as, say a landlord of a building more like Trump Tower or Sears(now called Willis) than a two flat. These buildings have reduced their prices in order to uo the residency.

Second, I am taking the crystal ball and visualizing the entire future of the internet, not just a limited hazy view of a domainers world. a 50% accuracy rate would be pretty high, indeed. Suddenly making money? And what works today may or may not even be around tomorrow.

It is not only not so bad to speculate on the future, which is exactly what we do, but by doing that it dictates the other forces that influence decision-making. Is that not exactly what Verisign is doing, after-all? They are blazing their own path apart from the historical and successful path that .com took. I do not see it as a healthy course to take but they do, and that is what is important. Time will tell as to the success or failure of that journey.

I guess most of what you elaborated on made sense, at least on the part of Verisign, but it does mean that they still need the support(read money) of domainers to still purchase enough names to at least keep them afloat during the course of the year. I do feel that the extension needs more developers or endusers than domainers or speculators, especially with the road less travelled that Verisign is taking at any rate.

Thanks for the education that I am receiving thus far. I am still a highly-confident speculator of the .tv extension, though, regardless of the direction Verisign is taking it.

khalids19 · 08-03-2009, 05:52 AM

.com is still the best other percent for the rest!

freedom30 · 08-03-2009, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by khalids19

.com is still the best other percent for the rest!

cute...but you can do a tad better, at least on this thread, khali!

MicroGuy · 08-03-2009, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by freedom30

I am still a highly-confident speculator of the .tv extension, though, regardless of the direction Verisign is taking it.

The registry's and registrars have fine-tuned their entire business models to capitalize on this mentality. You can find it in the .PRO threads, the .TEL threads, the .MOBI threads, and almost ever appraisal thread. I was there once, so I know the feeling.

I am now of the mindset that a website is much, much, more than simply the sum of it's domain extension. The first choice will always be .COM because it is ingrained in the consumer's mind much like Kleenex and Reynolds Wrap.

Yes, it is possible (extremely difficult, but possible) for a typical internet user to overcome the inclination to add .COM to the end of a web address. But when you leave for another extension, it really makes no difference which extension you choose as long as you build a unique and compelling website that people need and/or enjoy, and most importantly, want to return to, time and time again. Just make sure the name "as a whole" is short, snazzy, and easy to remember (eg. blip.fm, whois.sc, justin.tv).
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Based on everything I've read on this forum, I can find no valid argument that would support being highly-confident in .TV at this time as opposed to other extensions. IMHO.

freedom30 · 08-03-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by MicroGuy

...Based on everything I've read on this forum, I can find no valid argument that would support being highly-confident in .TV at this time as opposed to other extensions. IMHO.

Nor do you have to, sir, as it is my tenet, not yours. I am quite happy and comfortable with my "mentality" which you seem to disdain.

Your quibbling and attempts to demean or at least minimize another's confidence holds no water with me, so you may hop merrily along your way to another thread on this forum and direct your assaults elsewhere as I really have nothing to say to you and you from all appearances have nothing constructive to elaborate.
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Snoop, for all his seemingly negative opinion of the extension, does have a logical evaluation rather than a "Ive been there approach". The man may be just as negative of .tv as you but I gained knowledge and a pretty good communication from him on this thread without his bellittling me, unlike your sad volleys lofting fruitlessly into the cyberspace.

To that end, I bid you a good day, sir.

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garptrader · 08-04-2009, 03:32 PM

How safe are parking revenues on .COM domains if a domain like Dolphins.com can be lost via a UDRP filing...

Dolphins.com UDRP Update | Elliot's Blog

From what I understand about UDRP, had that domain been developed, the Miami Dolphins would have had a weak case.

snoop · 08-04-2009, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by garptrader

How safe are parking revenues on .COM domains if a domain like Dolphins.com can be lost via a UDRP filing...
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Dolphins.com UDRP Update | Elliot's Blog

From what I understand about UDRP, had that domain been developed, the Miami Dolphins would have had a weak case.

That is not saying much, the name was obviously being used in an infringing way. If it were developed in an infringing way it would have been lost aswell. (then again we don't actually know what happened ie whether it was lost or settled for cash).

How safe are developed domains?

MrRhee · 08-05-2009, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

How safe are developed domains?

I don't get the joke. ?

garptrader · 08-05-2009, 04:01 PM

There was a webinar at DomainSuccess.com on the topic of development as a defensive measure against UDRP claims. You could hold Apple.tld or Dolphins.tld and be safe if the site were developed in a way which does not compete with or infringe on the trademark.

Enrico Schaefer: “Protecting Domain Assets” | Domain Success

snoop · 08-05-2009, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by garptrader

There was a webinar at DomainSuccess.com on the topic of development as a defensive measure against UDRP claims. You could hold Apple.tld or Dolphins.tld and be safe if the site were developed in a way which does not compete with or infringe on the trademark.
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Enrico Schaefer: “Protecting Domain Assets” | Domain Success

You'd also be safe if the PPC ads didn't compete, a generic domain is as safe as the content on it.

Something like apple.anything or dolphins.anything should ordinarly be safe domains when used in the ordinary sense of the word. If you put up a park page with ads relating to apple computer, or develop a site related to apple computer you'll likely lose it. There is nothing magical about development that keeps the domain safe, it is the the way in which name is used.

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Originally Posted by MrRhee

I don't get the joke. ?

The joke is that the poster has missed the point by suggesting that parking is unsafe but development isn't. It isn't parking or development that is inheriantly safe or unsafe, it is what people decide to have on their site that causes issues. Regarding dolphins.com the former owner was C&D's year ago on it, blind freddy should know this is a name that needs to be watched carefully because the most economic usage on the name is to run it in an infringing way, it is like cowboys.com or jets.com it screams potential legal issues.

qO_Op · 08-06-2009, 06:03 AM

Russia Today is now promoting WWW.RT.TV instead of RussiaToday.com

Live link: streaming.visionip.tv/Russia_Today

Vladimir.TV · 08-07-2009, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by vJRB

Russia Today is now promoting WWW.RT.TV instead of RussiaToday.com

Live link: streaming.visionip.tv/Russia_Today

Russia Today is UK channel not russian

Doctor Banjo · 08-07-2009, 07:48 AM

Yes, people must develop .tv
.com is a twentieth century technology
facebook, twitter probably won't be around within five years that doesn't reflect something of lasting quality
My best to you Vladimir!

MicroGuy · 08-07-2009, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Doctor Banjo

Yes, people must develop .tv
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.com is a twentieth century technology..

How are the "technologies" between these two different?

zhizhinihao · 08-10-2009, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Samit
The thousands of tv channels who were supposed to be 'perfect end users' for .tv are not really bothered with the extension, they're going on with their business with .com or tv.com or cctlds.

Blastoff · 09-13-2009, 01:05 PM

The writing is on the wall....Convergence & iTV (internet TV) is coming fast.

With the Federal Government's massive rollout of high speed internet which will allow for convergence to grow rapidly in the U.S. the .TV domains will offer a sensible alternative to web developers offering video content.

Furthermore, with major brands like mercedes-benz.tv, vogue.tv and bmw.tv lauching .TV sites and not so famous brands like fora.tv winning a spot on TIME Magazine's "50 Best Websites 2009" it is clear that it we are investing in a viable product.

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garptrader NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 857	How safe are parking revenues on .COM domains if a domain like Dolphins.com can be lost via a UDRP filing... Dolphins.com UDRP Update \| Elliot's Blog From what I understand about UDRP, had that domain been developed, the Miami Dolphins would have had a weak case. __________________ http://www.genericdomains.net/ http://www.dominericos.com/ http://www.premiumdomains.tv/

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garptrader NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 857	There was a webinar at DomainSuccess.com on the topic of development as a defensive measure against UDRP claims. You could hold Apple.tld or Dolphins.tld and be safe if the site were developed in a way which does not compete with or infringe on the trademark. Enrico Schaefer: “Protecting Domain Assets” \| Domain Success __________________ http://www.genericdomains.net/ http://www.dominericos.com/ http://www.premiumdomains.tv/

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freedom30 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Windy City Posts: 2,427	I certainly appreciate the input from ALL who are and have posted here. The responses, for the most part, have been intelligent, entertaining and engaging. Whether we happen to agree or disagree, it is refreshing to sustain a discussion with the protocol that we have experienced here up to this point. I wish to thank all here for your input as I have learned more on this thread than in the years I have been in this enterprise. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/593446-the-future-of-tv.html I find that many times one learns from history, and since I only came about this circa 2006(a johnny-come-lately if there ever was one) I have noticed the similarities as well as differences in early .com and late .tv. Although those who posted differing views seem persuasive, my feeling about .tv and their archaic premiums remains the same. Whether it appears as a domainers pov(point of view) to me is irrelevant as history seems to have displayed a different direction in the form of .com's rites of passage. This only solidifies my perception of the course they need to take to at least start to become more, not less, competitive. At any rate, it is, of course, out of my hands and in the playbook of Verisign, I guess. But the history of extensions success or failure does beg the question, "can the playing field be level to the profit or success of .tv?" Realize that the extension is not competing with .com, it has its own niches, and that fact must be seen. I see a lot more development down the road had .tv been down to earth with its reg fees, cancel premiums and forget lofty "pie in the sky" prices that the hungry suits at Verisign are dreaming of. My opinion is that, along with the economic state of the world and the continuing demise of the parked page (for all extensions), adding another brick on an extension such as .tv as they are doing hurts, not helps, the extension. Now that leads me to another question, if I may. I am beginning to realize that the parked page is going the way of the eight track tape. Is there something on the horizon that will take its place or are those domainers that put their trust in ppc(or ppv?) going to take a bath? Is there another technoevolutionary path toward a new system of monetization? Or is this it?

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