.CO and is Rick Latona off his rocker ? - Page 3

SDX · 06-19-2009, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by HeyNow

From what I'm able to gather, Latona sponsors or is a co-sponsor (or licensee) of domain conventions and/or auctions. He outsources the actual auctioneering, but still participates in the auctions as a bidder. It leaves with me the impression that he's at least able to jack-up prices by bidding on names I might be interested in buying. Therefore, I stay away from those auctions.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/590229-co-rick-latona-off-his-rocker.html

This whole domainer convention/auction marriage seems like the perfect storm for a scam to be perpetrated on clueless domainer bidders. That's only my opinion. Am I wrong here?

No

cityforums.com · 06-19-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by HeyNow

From what I'm able to gather, Latona sponsors or is a co-sponsor (or licensee) of domain conventions and/or auctions. He outsources the actual auctioneering, but still participates in the auctions as a bidder. It leaves with me the impression that he's at least able to jack-up prices by bidding on names I might be interested in buying. Therefore, I stay away from those auctions.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=590229

This whole domainer convention/auction marriage seems like the perfect storm for a scam to be perpetrated on clueless domainer bidders. That's only my opinion. Am I wrong here?

Well Rick was a recent Domainer of the Year ... so can there potentially be a conflict of interest ?

HeyNow · 06-20-2009, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by cosmicray

Well Rick was a recent Domainer of the Year ... so can there potentially be a conflict of interest ?

So who bestowed "Domainer of the Year" on him? Was it the two dudes he gave money to for the licensee rights to co-sponsor the latest domainer convention? It wasn't me.

**matt_bodis** · 07-07-2009, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by labrocca

Everyone that Rick Latona will sell them to.

Saying that .co is a threat to com is like saying .tv is a threat. It's for all intense purposes an empty threat and I am sure Latona used it once again to gain interest and spark discussion. Latona calls it "biggest threat" and heck..he might be right if you compare the threat to say something like mobi.
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One a scale of 1-10 were 10 is a complete threat...let's scale extensions vs com.

.co 3
.cm 2
.everything else 1

So yeah... dot.co is the biggest threat. I hope you see my point. It's like being a millionaire in yen. It's only about (10k USD). It's relative.

I don't really believe it's a real threat but the term "biggest threat" might actually be true. dotcom has no legitimate threats imho.

Well I think .co and .om are going to be real big in the typo world. 10% of the .com's will automatically be profitable for .co/.om. So if these TLDs come out, and registrations will be rather cheap, it will be one of the biggest TLD launches ever.

.co gets about 1/15 of the traffic of .com.
.om gets about 1/80 of the traffic of .com.
.cm gets about 1/1000 of the traffic of .com.

This should show you the comparison between value of .co and .cm. Big difference. .CM though, still profitable for many top .com typos. But the high registration fees (and 2 year minimum registration) makes it unattractive for a lot of smaller names.

RogueWriter · 07-07-2009, 12:14 PM

I just do not see how a '.co' extension could be allowed, legally, to be introduced, it is confusingly similar to an existing extension. Maybe it would take a class action suit against the sponsor or ICANN to shut it down?

akcampbell · 07-07-2009, 01:51 PM

I don't see any problem with .co being allowed. It's the natural ccTLD for Columbia. .pr is allowed for Puerto Rico and .pro is a gTLD. And as people have pointed out .om and .cm already exist, although obviously they don't have the company abbreviation angle of .co. The Rick Latona article is nonsensical for many reasons;

1) No extension will ever rival .com, every subsequent extension released will have on average less and less impact on the domaining world, whatever the logic is for its success.

2) .co could have a problem with SEO geo-relevance. Google already marks down newer domains on age in terms of PageRank so newness would also count against .co.

3) .co isn't a naturally brandable company name suffix. You wouldn't think how do I make my Coupon website sound better, I know I'll call it CouponCo, it doesn't add any branding value. Other alternative extensions like .tv and .me add more to their keywords in a branding context.
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4) New extensions are often touted by self interested .com domainers looking for new profit making avenues. Remember Rick Schwartz and .mobi? Flowers.mobi was $200,000 down the drain. Making easy money by being in the right industry at the right time doesn't guarantee wisdom.

Serial landrushers pre-order the next big thing however flimsy the logic but in reality people aren't making any money out of new extensions. 267,000 .asia applications were received in the first 24 hours of landrush. If you look at .asia sales on dnsaleprice in 2009, all 29 of them, the highest is $4,725, then $2,950, then $1,750, the total is a miserly $25,300. Considering the hype and how much the DotAsia registry raked in during the landrush auctions, that's beyond pathetic.

Michal Right · 07-24-2009, 12:28 AM

That was and is a very nice gesture from him. Thumbs up to him, and congrats again to you and yours! I wonder if I told him what name I’d like.......

07-07-2009, 12:14 PM	#55 (permalink)
RogueWriter NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Smalltown USA Posts: 5,024	I just do not see how a '.co' extension could be allowed, legally, to be introduced, it is confusingly similar to an existing extension. Maybe it would take a class action suit against the sponsor or ICANN to shut it down? __________________ "I'm so mean I make MEDICINE sick." -Muhammad Ali

07-07-2009, 01:51 PM	#56 (permalink)
akcampbell .Pro Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,346	I don't see any problem with .co being allowed. It's the natural ccTLD for Columbia. .pr is allowed for Puerto Rico and .pro is a gTLD. And as people have pointed out .om and .cm already exist, although obviously they don't have the company abbreviation angle of .co. The Rick Latona article is nonsensical for many reasons; 1) No extension will ever rival .com, every subsequent extension released will have on average less and less impact on the domaining world, whatever the logic is for its success. 2) .co could have a problem with SEO geo-relevance. Google already marks down newer domains on age in terms of PageRank so newness would also count against .co. 3) .co isn't a naturally brandable company name suffix. You wouldn't think how do I make my Coupon website sound better, I know I'll call it CouponCo, it doesn't add any branding value. Other alternative extensions like .tv and .me add more to their keywords in a branding context. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=590229 4) New extensions are often touted by self interested .com domainers looking for new profit making avenues. Remember Rick Schwartz and .mobi? Flowers.mobi was $200,000 down the drain. Making easy money by being in the right industry at the right time doesn't guarantee wisdom. Serial landrushers pre-order the next big thing however flimsy the logic but in reality people aren't making any money out of new extensions. 267,000 .asia applications were received in the first 24 hours of landrush. If you look at .asia sales on dnsaleprice in 2009, all 29 of them, the highest is $4,725, then $2,950, then $1,750, the total is a miserly $25,300. Considering the hype and how much the DotAsia registry raked in during the landrush auctions, that's beyond pathetic. __________________ Total.pro August 2011 registry stats added 4 December 2011 Last edited by akcampbell; 07-07-2009 at 01:56 PM.

07-24-2009, 12:28 AM	#57 (permalink)
Michal Right Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 8 Follow @seqt	That was and is a very nice gesture from him. Thumbs up to him, and congrats again to you and yours! I wonder if I told him what name I’d like.......

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