why should I buy .net? - Page 3

testingyou · 06-12-2009, 04:51 PM

"btw..I wouldn't develop a net where the com is already a successful site. That imho is just not wise for a variety of reasons." - Labrocca

Then let me ask you this Labrocca...

Would you develope a .com where the .net is already a successful site? I guess we all know the answer to this one, and thats exactly the reason why .net should not even be mentioned in the same book as the .com.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/589063-why-should-i-buy-net.html

"My #1 site is a net. It ranks very well for thousands of keywords. The com was parked forever and eventually I did acquire it and redirect the com to my net. I just didn't want a competitor to grab it one day." - Labrocca

Would you have done the same if it was the .com you had developed and the .net was owned and parked by some other one? Would you have bought the .net then too?

How many times have you seen .com taken and .net available? How many times have you seen the opposite?

I respect all your opinions, but please do not try to raise the level of .net to anywhere near .com.

hawkeye · 06-12-2009, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by testingyou

I respect all your opinions, but please do not try to raise the level of .net to anywhere near .com.

That's the part you're missing. No one is saying .net is on the level of .com. We are just saying it can be developed and used, if one knows the existing and arising parameters involved.

labrocca · 06-12-2009, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Would you have done the same if it was the .com you had developed and the .net was owned and parked by some other one? Would you have bought the .net then too?

Let me tell you of an experience I did have.

I was able to gain the com forum domain that has a very popular .net site. The net ranked well in SERPS. I was hoping to steal some thunder and get my site rocking. Never happened. The net ruled and still does over my com. It was first to market and has better content. COM was epic fail and NET is king.

Again...this situation requires that one is parked or undeveloped. If you can dev a net and launch well before a com...the net imho will be the top result over the com. The bleed to com will be very small.

Quote:

Would you develope a .com where the .net is already a successful site?

So the answer is no I would not.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=589063

Gotta ask you something...have you ever developed a net?

EDIT: Oh I was going to give you another example of a failed com vs net. Speedtest.com which was a site and is now once again parked. Obviously speedtest.net is king and those that tried to monetize speedtest.com failed and have gone back to parking. More evidence that a developed net can beat a com and maintain it's position.

**mntor** · 06-12-2009, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

A 2% bleed does not justify the 20x multiple you may need to pay for owning the com vs the net.

Good point. Many believe more than 50% of the traffic will leak to .com which is not true atleast in the majority of the cases imho.

chandan · 06-12-2009, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by mntor

Good point. Many believe more than 50% of the traffic will leak to .com which is not true atleast in the majority of the cases imho.

if .net gets traffic from search enngines then .com wont get traffic

but its not true for generic names where .com gets traffic from typins from .net name too

testingyou · 06-13-2009, 02:56 AM

Lets look at the domain name you provide Labrocca.

Speedtest.com even though it is non-developed and parked it still ranks aprox. 56.xxx in Alexa:
Source: Domaintools.com

.com
Compete Rank: #46,793 with 41,636 U.S. visitors per month

.net
Compete Rank: #2,474 with 780,871 U.S. visitors per month

So it seems that there is a bleed of around 5% to .com from .net. This may not sound that much, but how many of you would not have liked the 41.636 U.S. visitors to your site?

Do you think the opposite would have been true, if the .com was developed and the .net was parked? Would the non-developed and parked .net get 41.636 U.S. visitors and rank 56.xxx in Alexa? I am not so sure about that.

Further analysis: speedtest.com

Destination sites from speedtest.com
speedtest.net - 25.95%
google.com - 11.91%
freespeedtest.com - 11.88%
speedplexer.com - 4.71%
msn.com - 4.41%

So it seems around 10.800 go to speedtest.net from .com, so the .net loose around 30.000 to other sites, like f.ex. competitors freespeedtest.com, speedplexer.com and so on.

Referral sites: speedtest.com
google.com - 10.11%
yahoo.com - 9.35%
msn.com - 7.10%
facebook.com - 5.63%
freespeedtest.com - 5.07%

Source: Compete.com

It seems that search engines stands for around 26.50% (11.000 visitors), 73.50% (30.600 visitors) are referred from other sites (who may have typed the wrong extension) and direct visitors/typins.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=589063

And we know from previous stats above, that these aprox. 30.000 do not end going to the .net. So this is a direct lost for the .net, and keep in mind that these numbers are only for U.S. visitors, think about how high the numbers would be for the international visitors.

Even though we don't agree, this kind of discussions are good for the NP-community and newbies, so I hope you all dont take this personally.

labrocca · 06-13-2009, 09:27 AM

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Do you think the opposite would have been true, if the .com was developed and the .net was parked?

But we are talkin about end-user development of a net. No one is suggestion you buy net's to park.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=589063

Quote:

And we know from previous stats above, that these aprox. 30.000 do not end going to the .net.

You can't be sure the people go and correct their type-in to hit the .net. I have done that myself a number of times.

Tim Schoon · 06-13-2009, 09:45 AM

I dislike .net domains, unless they're great keywords for development.

Jingles · 06-13-2009, 11:29 AM

According to alot of folks around here, there are still a vast amount of end users out there that are still clueless as to how a generic keyword .com which relates to their particular business can boost their bottom line and is a valuable asset to have......yet these endusers ARE smart enough to know things like, .net is second tier and LACKS value?? That's kinda weird...

I've done ok with my .nets, but all have went to endusers so far.

06-12-2009, 04:51 PM	#51 (permalink)
testingyou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Copenhagen - Denmark Posts: 1,789	"btw..I wouldn't develop a net where the com is already a successful site. That imho is just not wise for a variety of reasons." - Labrocca Then let me ask you this Labrocca... Would you develope a .com where the .net is already a successful site? I guess we all know the answer to this one, and thats exactly the reason why .net should not even be mentioned in the same book as the .com. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/589063-why-should-i-buy-net.html "My #1 site is a net. It ranks very well for thousands of keywords. The com was parked forever and eventually I did acquire it and redirect the com to my net. I just didn't want a competitor to grab it one day." - Labrocca Would you have done the same if it was the .com you had developed and the .net was owned and parked by some other one? Would you have bought the .net then too? How many times have you seen .com taken and .net available? How many times have you seen the opposite? I respect all your opinions, but please do not try to raise the level of .net to anywhere near .com. __________________ World Food Programme - No Children Should Go To Bed Hungry. It's simple, it's not rocket science, not political, not cultural, not religion, not complicated... It's this simple!.

06-13-2009, 02:56 AM	#56 (permalink)
testingyou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Copenhagen - Denmark Posts: 1,789	Lets look at the domain name you provide Labrocca. Speedtest.com even though it is non-developed and parked it still ranks aprox. 56.xxx in Alexa: Source: Domaintools.com .com Compete Rank: #46,793 with 41,636 U.S. visitors per month .net Compete Rank: #2,474 with 780,871 U.S. visitors per month So it seems that there is a bleed of around 5% to .com from .net. This may not sound that much, but how many of you would not have liked the 41.636 U.S. visitors to your site? Do you think the opposite would have been true, if the .com was developed and the .net was parked? Would the non-developed and parked .net get 41.636 U.S. visitors and rank 56.xxx in Alexa? I am not so sure about that. Further analysis: speedtest.com Destination sites from speedtest.com speedtest.net - 25.95% google.com - 11.91% freespeedtest.com - 11.88% speedplexer.com - 4.71% msn.com - 4.41% So it seems around 10.800 go to speedtest.net from .com, so the .net loose around 30.000 to other sites, like f.ex. competitors freespeedtest.com, speedplexer.com and so on. Referral sites: speedtest.com google.com - 10.11% yahoo.com - 9.35% msn.com - 7.10% facebook.com - 5.63% freespeedtest.com - 5.07% Source: Compete.com It seems that search engines stands for around 26.50% (11.000 visitors), 73.50% (30.600 visitors) are referred from other sites (who may have typed the wrong extension) and direct visitors/typins. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=589063 And we know from previous stats above, that these aprox. 30.000 do not end going to the .net. So this is a direct lost for the .net, and keep in mind that these numbers are only for U.S. visitors, think about how high the numbers would be for the international visitors. Even though we don't agree, this kind of discussions are good for the NP-community and newbies, so I hope you all dont take this personally. __________________ World Food Programme - No Children Should Go To Bed Hungry. It's simple, it's not rocket science, not political, not cultural, not religion, not complicated... It's this simple!.

06-13-2009, 09:45 AM	#58 (permalink)
Tim Schoon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,180	I dislike .net domains, unless they're great keywords for development. __________________ PEJ.com - high-end domain name brokerage & portfolio management

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06-13-2009, 11:29 AM	#59 (permalink)
Jingles NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 760	According to alot of folks around here, there are still a vast amount of end users out there that are still clueless as to how a generic keyword .com which relates to their particular business can boost their bottom line and is a valuable asset to have......yet these endusers ARE smart enough to know things like, .net is second tier and LACKS value?? That's kinda weird... I've done ok with my .nets, but all have went to endusers so far.

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