Bing is up... - Page 2

usa666 · 06-01-2009, 01:55 PM

Lipstick on a pig IMHO

They will gain some users due to hype and having 2 domains, but it is still a joke.

If they want to get more serious users they should work on making a better algorithm and results.

Their search results are horrible in my experience. Then again I have never been very impressed with yahoo or any other non google search engine.

One day I predict that there will be some search engines that can seriously compete with google. Probably not for some time though.

I don't get it though, these companies have lots of $$$$ but they spend it on everything else.

richrf · 06-01-2009, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by usa666

Lipstick on a pig IMHO

They will gain some users due to hype and having 2 domains, but it is still a joke.

If they want to get more serious users they should work on making a better algorithm and results.

Their search results are horrible in my experience. Then again I have never been very impressed with yahoo or any other non google search engine.

One day I predict that there will be some search engines that can seriously compete with google. Probably not for some time though.

I don't get it though, these companies have lots of $$$$ but they spend it on everything else.

Unfortunately, money cannot create magic. Google's results are excellent because of the enormous information that they have collected via Analytics and their Toolbar, as well as Adsense click-thru's and Adwords. MS's engineers do not have this information at their disposal, and I don't see how they are going to be able to access similar info, unless Google opens up their APIs to their data warehouses - something that they will do over their graves.

Recognizing that they cannot compete with Google on general search results, they have decided to go a different track. If they are successful in verticalizing the search engine market, they will make it more competitive. But, how many users are going to start using multiple search engines. They will only do it, if there is a big advantage using engines like Bing when searching for specific results such as travel and shopping bargains. I'm going to give it a try, and see if I get better results when shopping in the verticals that MS is targeting. It might work.

usa666 · 06-01-2009, 05:11 PM

^^

I do not think it would be too hard for MS to collect the data if they really wanted to. I just think that they are short sited or lazy.

For one Microsoft has their own browser and toolbar, so that is not an excuse not to have various data.

I am suggesting that there is someone at Google making all of the right decisions, and someone at Microsoft making the wrong decisions.

AdamWestdomains · 06-01-2009, 06:27 PM

Im impressed with it, definitely head and shoulders above the few search engine attempts we've seen, its based on a few other companies technologies, such as Powerset, so it should be at least better than live.com in the long run..

For Microsoft its an awesome tool to take market share away from Yahoo, and swallow it up into Bing

Bing SEO here we come...

shockie · 06-01-2009, 06:31 PM

bing results seem to be a step up from live/msn, but i wonder how microsoft is going to market this in trying to gain market share. lots of tv ads maybe?

Alex · 06-01-2009, 07:01 PM

My sites are well positioned in Bing, and this is the only thing I like in it. I like the results page too actually.

onlinelife · 06-01-2009, 09:49 PM

Its look like they just switch from live.com to bing.com huh

richrf · 06-01-2009, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by usa666

^^

I do not think it would be too hard for MS to collect the data if they really wanted to. I just think that they are short sited or lazy.

For one Microsoft has their own browser and toolbar, so that is not an excuse not to have various data.

I am suggesting that there is someone at Google making all of the right decisions, and someone at Microsoft making the wrong decisions.

The toolbar is just one piece. Analytics data is used, plus the data that advertisers provide them. I think it is a mistake to underestimate the immense advantage this provides to Google - by plan and design. I am a technologist by trade (over 35 years experience), and I would not know how to overcome this advantage if I was given the job of building a competitor to Google. However, if you know of a way, I would love to hear it, because it it the technology moat that Google has at this time.

Rich

NP02139 · 06-01-2009, 10:34 PM

lol, check out what happens when you search 'Linux' on Bing compared to the same search on Google.

Is Bing biased? You decide... | frank-dejong.com

Pretty obvious bias there ;-)

GF · 06-01-2009, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Seems like a pretty cuil search engine to me.

LOL no pun intended?

athletec64 · 06-01-2009, 10:58 PM

I actually kinda like it, though it seems like search results could improve. I hope Microsoft is successful.

seeker · 06-02-2009, 02:15 AM

If anything, I'd think for domainers it seems that bing is on our side.
I tried the linux search on both and it seems that bing favors domains with linux in the url!
I then tried searches for many of my sites that have keywords for the domain, and I am almost always on the first page!
So far so good. Lets see how it goes.

Joep · 06-02-2009, 03:50 AM

works for me!
All of my sites appear on the first results page.

me.julia · 06-02-2009, 04:42 AM

i don't see any big changes in it , its just same like live , Microsoft just gave new name to live (bing) otherwise its same like Old live SE... And honestly its look Bit spammy to me , And Speed is Also very slow like live had before ... maybe in future we'll see some changes on it ...

namewaiter · 06-06-2009, 09:49 AM

imo, bing is awesome so far, love seeing a summary of the page before i actually click and it is so damn fast.

lzy · 06-06-2009, 10:20 AM

TBH, I think it's pretty good and have now started using it more often. Love the video preview feature!

Morph · 06-06-2009, 10:53 AM

Totally un bias

http://i42.tinypic.com/2cz6kjt.jpg

seeker · 06-06-2009, 11:43 AM

I turn off that feature even in google.
It makes sense for a company that makes OS's that placing an OS in the there, the suggestions for search terms might get mixed up.
The results however are indeed unbiased.

brianlai · 06-06-2009, 11:47 AM

Bing will not win Google, at least it cannot attract me to use it. Changing a background does not mean anything.

The "The search xxxxxx may return sexually explicit content." IS EXTREMELY SUCKS

There is "To get results, change your search terms." but NO OPTION for me to adjust the searching criteria

nmridul · 06-08-2009, 09:36 AM

I just tried my first name last name, it gets my site on top. So its better than google ;-)

lexisdomains · 06-08-2009, 01:28 PM

Got my new website indexed within 48hours on Bing.com!

copper · 06-08-2009, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Morph

Totally un bias

http://i42.tinypic.com/2cz6kjt.jpg

Nice point

Totally un-biased!

One thing I don't understand.
Why would they forward live.com to bing.com?
If it's me, I would keep live.com as is to keep it's SE market share
and start Bing on it's own.

owntype · 06-08-2009, 04:52 PM

Bing Sucks?

johname · 06-16-2009, 09:37 PM

i look at the pic each day, then go back to google lol

kim robin · 06-16-2009, 11:49 PM

I've heard a lot of positive feedbacks about Bing. Some says that it has potential to beat google but for me I don't think so. Google is always the best for me but its too early to say though.

06-01-2009, 01:55 PM	#26 (permalink)
usa666 NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SellingForum.com Posts: 819 178.05 NP$ (Donate)	Lipstick on a pig IMHO They will gain some users due to hype and having 2 domains, but it is still a joke. If they want to get more serious users they should work on making a better algorithm and results. Their search results are horrible in my experience. Then again I have never been very impressed with yahoo or any other non google search engine. One day I predict that there will be some search engines that can seriously compete with google. Probably not for some time though. I don't get it though, these companies have lots of $$$$ but they spend it on everything else. __________________ Advertising Forums - Link Exchange Forum - Search Engine Optimization Forum - link website

06-01-2009, 05:11 PM	#28 (permalink)
usa666 NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SellingForum.com Posts: 819 178.05 NP$ (Donate)	^^ I do not think it would be too hard for MS to collect the data if they really wanted to. I just think that they are short sited or lazy. For one Microsoft has their own browser and toolbar, so that is not an excuse not to have various data. I am suggesting that there is someone at Google making all of the right decisions, and someone at Microsoft making the wrong decisions. __________________ Advertising Forums - Link Exchange Forum - Search Engine Optimization Forum - link website

06-01-2009, 06:31 PM	#30 (permalink)
shockie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,701 176.85 NP$ (Donate)	bing results seem to be a step up from live/msn, but i wonder how microsoft is going to market this in trying to gain market share. lots of tv ads maybe? __________________ - shockie newly updated blog

06-01-2009, 07:01 PM	#31 (permalink)
Alex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oradea Posts: 3,128 231.51 NP$ (Donate)	My sites are well positioned in Bing, and this is the only thing I like in it. I like the results page too actually. __________________ Lake Titicaca Neuschwanstein Castle Sedlec Ossuary

06-01-2009, 09:49 PM	#32 (permalink)
onlinelife NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Taipei Posts: 649 447.00 NP$ (Donate)	Its look like they just switch from live.com to bing.com huh __________________ DotsDomain.Com

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06-01-2009, 06:27 PM	#29 (permalink)
AdamWestdomains Account Suspended Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 163 178.00 NP$ (Donate)	Im impressed with it, definitely head and shoulders above the few search engine attempts we've seen, its based on a few other companies technologies, such as Powerset, so it should be at least better than live.com in the long run.. For Microsoft its an awesome tool to take market share away from Yahoo, and swallow it up into Bing Bing SEO here we come...

06-01-2009, 10:34 PM	#34 (permalink)
NP02139 NamePros Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 166 17.00 NP$ (Donate)	lol, check out what happens when you search 'Linux' on Bing compared to the same search on Google. Is Bing biased? You decide... \| frank-dejong.com Pretty obvious bias there ;-)

06-01-2009, 10:58 PM	#36 (permalink)
athletec64 NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 894 1,124.06 NP$ (Donate)	I actually kinda like it, though it seems like search results could improve. I hope Microsoft is successful.

06-02-2009, 02:15 AM	#37 (permalink)
seeker Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,160 136.00 NP$ (Donate)	If anything, I'd think for domainers it seems that bing is on our side. I tried the linux search on both and it seems that bing favors domains with linux in the url! I then tried searches for many of my sites that have keywords for the domain, and I am almost always on the first page! So far so good. Lets see how it goes. __________________ Seek and you shall find!

06-02-2009, 03:50 AM	#38 (permalink)
Joep NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 315 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	works for me! All of my sites appear on the first results page.

06-02-2009, 04:42 AM	#39 (permalink)
me.julia New Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 16 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	i don't see any big changes in it , its just same like live , Microsoft just gave new name to live (bing) otherwise its same like Old live SE... And honestly its look Bit spammy to me , And Speed is Also very slow like live had before ... maybe in future we'll see some changes on it ... __________________ Resume Examples \| Administration Resumes

06-06-2009, 09:49 AM	#40 (permalink)
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06-06-2009, 10:20 AM	#41 (permalink)
lzy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,050 1,034.80 NP$ (Donate)	TBH, I think it's pretty good and have now started using it more often. Love the video preview feature! __________________ ...

06-06-2009, 10:53 AM	#42 (permalink)
Morph Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: England Posts: 4,653 31.29 NP$ (Donate)	Totally un bias http://i42.tinypic.com/2cz6kjt.jpg __________________ You're now free to do what we tell you to do.

06-08-2009, 09:36 AM	#45 (permalink)
nmridul NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Global roaming Posts: 513 891.15 NP$ (Donate)	I just tried my first name last name, it gets my site on top. So its better than google ;-) __________________ Income tax slab 2010-2011, Income tax calculator \|Solar powered toy Baby Slides \| Camera holsters \| Foreign exchange charts\| Men's casual jacket

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06-06-2009, 11:43 AM	#43 (permalink)
seeker Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,160 136.00 NP$ (Donate)	I turn off that feature even in google. It makes sense for a company that makes OS's that placing an OS in the there, the suggestions for search terms might get mixed up. The results however are indeed unbiased. __________________ Seek and you shall find!

06-06-2009, 11:47 AM	#44 (permalink)
brianlai NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 244 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Bing will not win Google, at least it cannot attract me to use it. Changing a background does not mean anything. The "The search xxxxxx may return sexually explicit content." IS EXTREMELY SUCKS There is "To get results, change your search terms." but NO OPTION for me to adjust the searching criteria

06-08-2009, 04:52 PM	#48 (permalink)
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06-16-2009, 09:37 PM	#49 (permalink)
johname NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,623 1,798.00 NP$ (Donate)	i look at the pic each day, then go back to google lol

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