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Old 06-01-2009, 02:55 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Lipstick on a pig IMHO

They will gain some users due to hype and having 2 domains, but it is still a joke.

If they want to get more serious users they should work on making a better algorithm and results.

Their search results are horrible in my experience. Then again I have never been very impressed with yahoo or any other non google search engine.

One day I predict that there will be some search engines that can seriously compete with google. Probably not for some time though.

I don't get it though, these companies have lots of $$$$ but they spend it on everything else.
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Old 06-01-2009, 03:05 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Lipstick on a pig IMHO

They will gain some users due to hype and having 2 domains, but it is still a joke.

If they want to get more serious users they should work on making a better algorithm and results.

Their search results are horrible in my experience. Then again I have never been very impressed with yahoo or any other non google search engine.

One day I predict that there will be some search engines that can seriously compete with google. Probably not for some time though.

I don't get it though, these companies have lots of $$$$ but they spend it on everything else.
Unfortunately, money cannot create magic. Google's results are excellent because of the enormous information that they have collected via Analytics and their Toolbar, as well as Adsense click-thru's and Adwords. MS's engineers do not have this information at their disposal, and I don't see how they are going to be able to access similar info, unless Google opens up their APIs to their data warehouses - something that they will do over their graves.

Recognizing that they cannot compete with Google on general search results, they have decided to go a different track. If they are successful in verticalizing the search engine market, they will make it more competitive. But, how many users are going to start using multiple search engines. They will only do it, if there is a big advantage using engines like Bing when searching for specific results such as travel and shopping bargains. I'm going to give it a try, and see if I get better results when shopping in the verticals that MS is targeting. It might work.
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:11 PM   #28 (permalink)
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^^

I do not think it would be too hard for MS to collect the data if they really wanted to. I just think that they are short sited or lazy.

For one Microsoft has their own browser and toolbar, so that is not an excuse not to have various data.

I am suggesting that there is someone at Google making all of the right decisions, and someone at Microsoft making the wrong decisions.
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Im impressed with it, definitely head and shoulders above the few search engine attempts we've seen, its based on a few other companies technologies, such as Powerset, so it should be at least better than live.com in the long run..

For Microsoft its an awesome tool to take market share away from Yahoo, and swallow it up into Bing

Bing SEO here we come...
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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bing results seem to be a step up from live/msn, but i wonder how microsoft is going to market this in trying to gain market share. lots of tv ads maybe?
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Old 06-01-2009, 08:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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My sites are well positioned in Bing, and this is the only thing I like in it. I like the results page too actually.
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Its look like they just switch from live.com to bing.com huh
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I do not think it would be too hard for MS to collect the data if they really wanted to. I just think that they are short sited or lazy.

For one Microsoft has their own browser and toolbar, so that is not an excuse not to have various data.

I am suggesting that there is someone at Google making all of the right decisions, and someone at Microsoft making the wrong decisions.

The toolbar is just one piece. Analytics data is used, plus the data that advertisers provide them. I think it is a mistake to underestimate the immense advantage this provides to Google - by plan and design. I am a technologist by trade (over 35 years experience), and I would not know how to overcome this advantage if I was given the job of building a competitor to Google. However, if you know of a way, I would love to hear it, because it it the technology moat that Google has at this time.

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Old 06-01-2009, 11:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
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lol, check out what happens when you search 'Linux' on Bing compared to the same search on Google.

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Pretty obvious bias there ;-)
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Seems like a pretty cuil search engine to me.
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I actually kinda like it, though it seems like search results could improve. I hope Microsoft is successful.
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If anything, I'd think for domainers it seems that bing is on our side.
I tried the linux search on both and it seems that bing favors domains with linux in the url!
I then tried searches for many of my sites that have keywords for the domain, and I am almost always on the first page!
So far so good. Lets see how it goes.
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works for me!
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Old 06-02-2009, 05:42 AM   #39 (permalink)
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i don't see any big changes in it , its just same like live , Microsoft just gave new name to live (bing) otherwise its same like Old live SE... And honestly its look Bit spammy to me , And Speed is Also very slow like live had before ... maybe in future we'll see some changes on it ...
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imo, bing is awesome so far, love seeing a summary of the page before i actually click and it is so damn fast.
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TBH, I think it's pretty good and have now started using it more often. Love the video preview feature!
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I turn off that feature even in google.
It makes sense for a company that makes OS's that placing an OS in the there, the suggestions for search terms might get mixed up.
The results however are indeed unbiased.
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Bing will not win Google, at least it cannot attract me to use it. Changing a background does not mean anything.

The "The search xxxxxx may return sexually explicit content." IS EXTREMELY SUCKS

There is "To get results, change your search terms." but NO OPTION for me to adjust the searching criteria
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One thing I don't understand.
Why would they forward live.com to bing.com?
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If it's me, I would keep live.com as is to keep it's SE market share
and start Bing on it's own.
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I've heard a lot of positive feedbacks about Bing. Some says that it has potential to beat google but for me I don't think so. Google is always the best for me but its too early to say though.
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