A Domainer's Sale - more than likely

bmugford · 07-26-2010, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by fmontagny

bmugford, do not know who you are and I have nothing against you, but those icons under your avatar scare me.

You mean the charity ribbons?
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Brad

NLP · 07-26-2010, 10:02 PM

At this point I'm wondering if it could have been a typo, but according to his Twitter, Mike Mann sold Flying.co for $3500. His first premium .CO sale.

Is it just me, or does this seem a little low, based on the keyword? Maybe I'm missing something, but his other names are all priced at $100-250K.

If *this* is any indication, the rest of our little pigeon turd scraps won't be worth $35.99. Sheesh.

bmugford · 07-26-2010, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by NLP

At this point I'm wondering if it could have been a typo, but according to his Twitter, Mike Mann sold Flying.co for $3500. His first premium .CO sale.
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Is it just me, or does this seem a little low, based on the keyword? Maybe I'm missing something, but his other names are all priced at $100-250K.

If *this* is any indication, the rest of our little pigeon turd scraps won't be worth $35.99. Sheesh.

Well, Mike Mann has without a doubt the best .CO portfolio possible pretty much. If Flying.co is only worth $3,500 then good luck to everyone else.

Let's be honest, most of those asking prices are absurd. They would get a fraction of those prices for a much more credible extension like .NET

Flying.com sold for 1.1M. I guess there is a difference between the .CO hype and reality.

Brad

KevDomains · 07-26-2010, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by NLP

At this point I'm wondering if it could have been a typo, but according to his Twitter, Mike Mann sold Flying.co for $3500. His first premium .CO sale.
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Is it just me, or does this seem a little low, based on the keyword? Maybe I'm missing something, but his other names are all priced at $100-250K.

If *this* is any indication, the rest of our little pigeon turd scraps won't be worth $35.99. Sheesh.

Sold for higher than the .org version.

bmugford · 07-26-2010, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by KevDomains

Sold for higher than the .org version.

Where did you see that?
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If someone bought Flying.org for that price recently they need to be congratulated for getting an amazing steal.

Brad

KevDomains · 07-26-2010, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by bmugford

Where did you see that?
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If someone bought Flying.org for that price recently they need to be congratulated for getting an amazing steal.

Brad

12/26/09 - sold for €2,000, 7 months 1 day ago at Sedo

bmugford · 07-26-2010, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by KevDomains

12/26/09 - sold for €2,000, 7 months 1 day ago at Sedo

Well, if that reported sale is true then it was an amazing buy. Considering it is not listed on DNJournal, or NameBio.com I have my doubts it actually sold at that time for that price.
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It turned up @ TRAFFIC Milan auction recently with a much higher reserve -
Targeted T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Milan Live Auction Results | Domain Name News

Brad

lexisdomains · 07-26-2010, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by bmugford

Well, Mike Mann has without a doubt the best .CO portfolio possible pretty much. If Flying.co is only worth $3,500 then good luck to everyone else.
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Let's be honest, most of those asking prices are absurd. They would get a fraction of those prices for a much more credible extension like .NET

Flying.com sold for 1.1M. I guess there is a difference between the hype and reality.

Brad

I'm almost certain that this sale (flying.co) was a 'domainer's sale' or sold to another domain investor based on price data. This is in no way indicative of what .CO is truly worth as large fortune 100 companies see a more intrinsic value for these type of domains. (e.g Overstock)

Why I Invested In .CO

The reasons for my .Co investments were because, the .coms were either permanent 301 redirects to large corporations. This in essence leaves a void to be filled for .CO, assuming that the other more popular extensions are not developed.

In my case, the .COM versions were all 301 permanent redirects. (ex. Lollipops.com is a permanent redirect to PromotionInMotion.com, one of the largest North American manufacturers and marketers of popular brand name confections, fruit snacks and other fine foods. )

The same is also true of clothiers.com which redirects to Reflex Publishing Inc, which states that the .COM version is 'NOT For Sale'.

Is there an opportunity for .CO in this instance?...., we'll have to wait and see.

KevDomains · 07-26-2010, 10:31 PM

I'm not sure where estibot gets their sale history, but it's also posted there.

NLP · 07-26-2010, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by lexisdomains

I'm almost certain that this sale (flying.co) was a 'domainer's sale' or sold to another domainer.

That's what I think too, and I think they may have gotten a very good deal. Sure, the extension is new, but certain words will always be worth more. It's a gamble, but it may turn out to be a good one, if it ends up being one of those names that's flipped for a higher price a few years down the road.
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If not, well, at least they weren't out $xx,xxx.

I just can't understand the need to sell that right now. It's not like M.M. is digging for pocket change to get a Slurpee at 7-11. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to move some names while there's interest in .CO and I'm pricing accordingly (i.e., realistically), but there are others that I won't even contemplate selling in the next 2-3 years (unless it's a really good offer).

bmugford · 07-26-2010, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by NLP

That's what I think too, and I think they may have gotten a very good deal. Sure, the extension is new, but certain words will always be worth more. It's a gamble, but it may turn out to be a good one, if it ends up being one of those names that's flipped for a higher price a few years down the road.

Well, the truth is the vast majority of all sales are between domainers. It happens in every niche LLL.com / CVCV.com / LLL.net / etc.

There are end user sales in every extension, but domainers create liquidity around many different domain types.

I would not be surprised if the buyer was Flying.com. If you are going to spent 1.1M on a generic .COM, spending $3500 on brand protection is not a bad deal.
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Brad

defaultuser · 07-26-2010, 10:48 PM

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lexisdomains · 07-26-2010, 10:50 PM

Which one is worth more- O.biz or O.co?

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Here's the answer: From DomainWire.com

Quote:

And at $350,000, Overstock.com paid a lot more for o.co than o.biz, right?

Don’t jump to that conclusion.

Overstock was awarded o.biz, which it currently uses as a b2b commerce store, through a request for proposal from .biz registry Neustar. Although the RFP didn’t require Overstock to pay much money directly to the registry, it did have to agree to spend significant resources promoting the o.biz web site. It may sound outlandish, but word on the street is RFP responses to Neustar’s release of one character .biz domains may have included a commitment to spend over a million dollars promoting the site.

Any thoughts on this?.....

bmugford · 07-26-2010, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by lexisdomains

Which one is worth more- O.biz or O.co?

Here's the answer: From DomainWire.com
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Any thoughts on this?.....

It is hard to compare different types of deals, but I am sure the RFP process, development, and marketing cost a fair amount for O.biz

Brad

Animator · 07-26-2010, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by bmugford

It is hard to compare different types of deals, but I am sure the RFP process, development, and marketing cost a fair amount for O.biz
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Brad

Remmember the "O" face from in the movie Office Space to describe the face one makes when achieving orgasm.

I'm gonna be showing her my O face.
I think I might take that girl from logistics, if everything goes well I might be showin' her my O Face, OH OH OH, yeah you know what I'm talking about OH!

youtube.com/watch?v=k6UPR3OdroY

bmugford · 07-26-2010, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Animator

Remmember the "O" face from in the movie Office Space to describe the face one makes when achieving orgasm.
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I'm gonna be showing her my O face.
I think I might take that girl from logistics, if everything goes well I might be showin' her my O Face, OH OH OH, yeah you know what I'm talking about OH!

youtube.com/watch?v=k6UPR3OdroY

I think anyone who works in an office would appreciate that movie. One of my favorites.

Brad

syncvb · 07-26-2010, 11:10 PM

Does the .CO registry allows to GRACE DELETE a .CO domain??
If yes what is the period??

NLP · 07-26-2010, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by bmugford

I think anyone who works in an office would appreciate that movie. One of my favorites.
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Brad

Not to get too far off topic, but I love that movie. It once saved me on a night when I was incredibly depressed back in college. I couldn't sleep, decided to rent the DVD, and ended up laughing so much that I nearly fell off my couch. It's a highly quotable movie, and one of my favorites, too, although I've never worked in an office.

To the person who asked about grace deletes: Yes, I was able to do them through GoDaddy. It has to be within 5 days, and you usually have to call and speak to someone in person to make sure the refund is processed.

NLP

defaultuser · 07-26-2010, 11:21 PM

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bgmv · 07-27-2010, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by defaultuser

I think people are overvaluing .co [obviously]

As I have said before. Colombia has a population 1/2 the size of Germany and 20% the per capita GDP. It's growing; however, Germany's industry/commerce is central to the functioning of Europe and the World.. they are also very net savvy. So it's not really a fair comparison.

I also think that .com.co will only become a stronger link to "commerce".

All talk of a TLD being 2 characters is just nonsense. Average people can type between 60-120 words per minute now... kids can text that... and autocomplete makes it easier. What's one character? COnfusion is how I read it best.

To me? It seems like a fair price. I think that 1% of the .com would be about top dollar right now... with a curve at the bottom end where it gets higher. A 3K .com would be worth more than $30 in the .co (especially with reg fee at that level)

The only names I really like are Spanish. In particular Colombian/Latin American dialect... I wouldn't want to deal with them because I don't want to do transactions in Spanish - I don't speak it - let alone with Colombian nationals. I don't have anything against the people of Colombia but I know first hand from business that I've been involved in that negotiations in Latin America don't work like they do in the US/Europe.

I think English single word keywords will sell domainer to domainer for small ROI. There will be a LOT of shill bidding and domain pumping. This is natural.

You will NOT see a lot of type in offers. What are the chances that you are found amongst the debris of the internet? Development? I'd be surprised if more than 5% of domains came close to something of merit.. and I include functioning blogs.

I don't think I will post on .co anymore until I'm proved right or totally wrong. I would look at some of the big pushers of .co here at NP... they talk development but have everything for sale.. mention their own domain at every turn and have a total of < 100 posts all done since March this year... it's quiet telling :-)
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Those of you with GREAT - top 1% of English keywords - shouldn't fret. Those with great SPANISH names will do alright too.

The .CO will survive and will be valuable - just not in the way everyone wants... in the same way that .de is... but smaller.

Remember: this is ALL an OPINION. Though I do have the advantage of being from the future.

Couldnt of said it better myself - + rep and Cheers!

.co may prove successful for some but the majority of the .co registered are absolute garbage and have 0 value...people that have no experience with domains are registering their first domains in an extension which resides in a country they nothing about in a foreign language dreaming of riches from SonyBluRayHitachiSamsungDVD.co.....ill be back in 11 months when everyone here is dumping their crap

stoppingfear · 07-27-2010, 12:20 AM

I only invested in 3 .co domains because I wasn't sure how it would turn out. I think the one with the most potential is FBLike.co with many potential endusers I'm quite sure I should be able to sell it off at least.

If not I can always develop it to another similar site like FBLike.com FBlike.net Likeit.com ect ect. There has to be about 30 of these types of sites with many looking to start new.

BTW if anyone is interested in buying it off me just pm me please

piklets · 07-27-2010, 12:42 AM

Most people, especially the newbies got caught up in the hype and media and took a gamble, and probably half of them are now regretting it. My advice to them is to wait a while to see how it turns out before jumping to conclusions.

In my opinion, due to the amount of money put into marketing it as a global domain, and with Google accepting it as one, as long at continues to be marketed, it will be accepted.
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All average-joes may have never heard of .co but it wouldn't surprise them that it exists, and they would get used to it very quickly. Come on - no denying it is already a part of many ccTLDs. People won't be able to tell the difference.

Only worry is people assuming it is mistyped and putting .com instead.

I personally think .CO is great however for starting up a new business/website. Works like a .COM, and with more publicity and time people will know it exists.

jacpar · 07-27-2010, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by piklets

Most people, especially the newbies ...

Only worry is people assuming it is mistyped and putting .com instead.

I personally think .CO is great however for starting up a new business/website.

Thats's the problem : the emails sent to you will be, by mistyping, received by the yourdomain.COM !
That is a big problem. This is why I will never reg myfamilyname.CO because some else has my familyname.COM

duodec · 07-27-2010, 10:53 AM

GoDaddy finally finalized my friend's 'global sunrise' domain name. Apparently the problem was it also had multiple landrush pre-orders at GoDaddy (allowed since a global sunrise order had to be approved after verification of trademark by Deloitte, so it could have become available if any sunrise applications failed). His was the only sunrise application that was approved. Apparently the presence of the landrush orders caused some confusion, even though his name and info have been in the WHOIS for a few weeks.
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I'm glad for his sake he didn't try to save a few bucks by doing a landrush pre-order, or worse waiting for general availability; no way he would have received it or likely been able to afford it at auction.

Szise · 07-27-2010, 11:09 AM

"Anyone used Moniker to pre-register .co domains during the General Availability period? I didn't received a refund yet (to my Moniker account how they said and the ticket was closed)."

My mistake, they refunded the money to my Paypal account on july 23 but I didn't saw. Sorry.

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stoppingfear NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 264	I only invested in 3 .co domains because I wasn't sure how it would turn out. I think the one with the most potential is FBLike.co with many potential endusers I'm quite sure I should be able to sell it off at least. If not I can always develop it to another similar site like FBLike.com FBlike.net Likeit.com ect ect. There has to be about 30 of these types of sites with many looking to start new. BTW if anyone is interested in buying it off me just pm me please __________________ PLEASE REVIEW SIGNATURE RULES - Links to Parked Pages are not permitted.

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NLP NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 546 Follow @DomainSushi	At this point I'm wondering if it could have been a typo, but according to his Twitter, Mike Mann sold Flying.co for $3500. His first premium .CO sale. Is it just me, or does this seem a little low, based on the keyword? Maybe I'm missing something, but his other names are all priced at $100-250K. If this is any indication, the rest of our little pigeon turd scraps won't be worth $35.99. Sheesh.

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KevDomains NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 82	I'm not sure where estibot gets their sale history, but it's also posted there.

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syncvb NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: .in Posts: 434	Does the .CO registry allows to GRACE DELETE a .CO domain?? If yes what is the period??

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piklets New Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 6	Most people, especially the newbies got caught up in the hype and media and took a gamble, and probably half of them are now regretting it. My advice to them is to wait a while to see how it turns out before jumping to conclusions. In my opinion, due to the amount of money put into marketing it as a global domain, and with Google accepting it as one, as long at continues to be marketed, it will be accepted. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=573976 All average-joes may have never heard of .co but it wouldn't surprise them that it exists, and they would get used to it very quickly. Come on - no denying it is already a part of many ccTLDs. People won't be able to tell the difference. Only worry is people assuming it is mistyped and putting .com instead. I personally think .CO is great however for starting up a new business/website. Works like a .COM, and with more publicity and time people will know it exists.

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duodec NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ill Annoy Posts: 55	GoDaddy finally finalized my friend's 'global sunrise' domain name. Apparently the problem was it also had multiple landrush pre-orders at GoDaddy (allowed since a global sunrise order had to be approved after verification of trademark by Deloitte, so it could have become available if any sunrise applications failed). His was the only sunrise application that was approved. Apparently the presence of the landrush orders caused some confusion, even though his name and info have been in the WHOIS for a few weeks. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=573976 I'm glad for his sake he didn't try to save a few bucks by doing a landrush pre-order, or worse waiting for general availability; no way he would have received it or likely been able to afford it at auction.

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A Domainer's Sale - more than likely

O.biz or O.co - Which is worth more?