.co .CO - The Discussion, Showcase and Sales Report Thread

Aboutdomains said:

I just wonder the value of ".com.co". Do you think that .com.co is just for colombia users?

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Yes, just like, for example, Mexican prefer .com.mx over .mx

xuxamus said:

Just registered one of the first dropped domains... It was pending delete yesterday.
Afrika.co (13.99 at GoDaddy)
Couldn't let it pass... it might be worth regular registration value!!!

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I think you got a good one there. It means Africa in German. There seems to be some popularity for German words in .co. I'm actually surprised you managed to get that one for $13. But kudos to you for being alert...

Google Estimated to Have Spent a Cool $1.5 Million for “G.co”

Google Estimated to Have Spent a Cool $1.5 Million for “G.co”

Nothing new, but just wanted to share it.

since when did overstock.com became o.co ?

since when did overstock.com became o.co ?

I took GameGear from a drop list few days ago. Not sure worth anything, but I saw lots of developed sites on other extensions. Though I would give it a try

Anyway, do you know any site to get .co droplist?

cache said:

since when did overstock.com became o.co ?

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Since they had to refile their earnings and had a name that was getting ground into the dirt with a CEO that has a reputation for being well... something.

A Leopard can dress up like a Tiger but at the end of the day he's still got spots and he's not fooling the herds he's chasing.

Overstock.com is still overstock.com - they've just changed to that new little O logo.

O.co still redirects so I don't get it :bah:

on the website...in bold:

"Shop O.co Best Sellers"

"What's Hot Right Now on O.co"

good for them and .co

Sedo:

men.co
$32,000

Just registered another "K" (German) dropped domain... Amerika.co

It's on sale already... LOL

This one I don't want (also German) major word:
Asien.co - Was available a minute ago.

Go get it.

Search Google for .CO domains and get a 13.99 offer from GoDaddy.

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Hi Guys,

I just wanted to clarify Domainmonster’s position on .CO Backordering. We *are* utilising the Reservation System unique to .Co in the five day non restorable period. This means if you place a backorder with us today for example, for somedomain.co that is due to enter the non-restorable period in a week, our system will place the reservation for you as soon as we are able at the very start of this non- restorable period. Obviously at this time there may be competition from other registrars to place the same reservation, but once the reservation has been placed by Domainmonster this prevents any other registrars from doing the same, guaranteeing you the domain.

Apologies if there was any confusion previously - but I hope this helps clear things up!

April

a bit confused. Say a 7/21/10 reg domain is expired and is at name.com and backordered right now at both name and dm. What's the situation there? I am guessing that name will hold the name, any input?

BD said:

a bit confused. Say a 7/21/10 reg domain is expired and is at name.com and backordered right now at both name and dm. What's the situation there? I am guessing that name will hold the name, any input?

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I don't believe that there's anything in place to stop name.com keeping the name and simply transferring it (ethics aside) or keeping it (ethics aside).

Bottom line:

Deletion, Transfer or Recovery during Redemption Grace Period

At the end of the Hold Period we may, in our sole discretion, delete the domain name or transfer it to a third party. We reserve the right to make any domain name that has gone through the twenty-five (25) day Expiration Period available for registration to a third party.

So there you have it. Top Tier names will likely appear at Snapnames as a preRelease. I'm not sure they will be sold. I read that a number of name.com names mysteriously vanished from auction.

Who knows? It would be nice if registrars were clear and upfront with what they did. Here they are clear about taking your name, at least. (Though saying "your" name when 25 days expired is dubious owership)

My guess is that if the name is not sold by 3rd Party then they will drop catch per the backorder. Technically the domain is "deleted" and not still held by Name.com by that point and the recover cost is more than a backorder. They would need to renew well in advance of the recovery grace period to make it worthwhile and backorders are not permanent until a few hours before due.. so they would be financially on the hook.

Basically defaultuser is correct. If the name is already with name.com with one of their customers, they can prevent it from ever entering the non-restorable period where a reservation can be placed (in theory- as per their Ts and Cs). If it never enters this phase, we can't get to it!

April

DM_April said:

Basically defaultuser is correct. If the name is already with name.com with one of their customers, they can prevent it from ever entering the non-restorable period where a reservation can be placed (in theory- as per their Ts and Cs). If it never enters this phase, we can't get to it!

April

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Will DM use that method on names registered there?

Looking at the dropping and dropped names.

Seeing reasonable CPC, high competition, reasonable search keyword domains sitting unregistered.

Some drops are FAR FAR better than the names people have renewed, imho. Some decent LLL too.

Somewhat interesting is that I'm finally seeing keywords where the .TV is registered and the .CO is NOT registered - an irrelevant aside.

Waiting for Mr Hosterstats to publish some factoids

Good Luck to those picking off the decent keywords - there are some out there... Hopefully Robert Cline is paying attention and is rescuing the gold from the scraps.

If anybody wants .co drops caught but don't think it's worth the $85 backorder at registrars, I can catch the domain for you for $40 each (includes 1 year of registration). Just send me the name and drop date. PM me for more details. Thanks.

1rrr1 said:

If anybody wants .co drops caught but don't think it's worth the $85 backorder at registrars, I can catch the domain for you for $40 each (includes 1 year of registration). Just send me the name and drop date. PM me for more details. Thanks.

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Are you just saying you will catch them when the reservation end time is met? Meaning that if anyone else buys a backorder you won't even try?

I don't think you are saying you are competing with the $85 for the same "reservation" as this would cost you a minimum of $43 out of pocket.

Just clarification.

1rrr1 said:

If anybody wants .co drops caught but don't think it's worth the $85 backorder at registrars, I can catch the domain for you for $40 each (includes 1 year of registration). Just send me the name and drop date. PM me for more details. Thanks.

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Seems like any name worthwhile will be or has been backordered.

Keith said:

Seems like any name worthwhile will be or has been backordered.

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Define worthwhile?

I can find keyword terms with 8,000 exact with CPC of $2 taken in every TLD but .CO developed by just one aspect of the industry on the .com.

It's all relative. I just can't be bothered to try because the sites I've half been watching ( bought by end-users with a "different" keyword main site on .com or .co.uk) have not developed squat yet. More tellingly they only were bought for 1 year and only renewed for 1 more.

But there are decent keyword terms out there imho. At least better than what most people post asking $5000 for.

defaultuser said:

Define worthwhile?

But there are decent keyword terms out there imho. At least better than what most people post asking $5000 for.

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Worthwhile to me is a domain I can purchase cheap enough to flip for a profit.

As far as keywords dropping...from what I see, the good ones are being backordered. Many keywords have already been backordered and they haven't even expired yet!

One thing I've realized in the last few weeks about .co is that the average domainer has almost zero chance of getting great keywords. Whois searches reveal that the same few individuals/companies own all the best names. Most everything else is reserved. This is bad news for the development of .co in general.

Keith said:

One thing I've realized in the last few weeks about .co is that the average domainer has almost zero chance of getting great keywords

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Mainly because all the really great keywords were renewed.

the_poet said:

Mainly because all the really great keywords were renewed.

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Lol yes but renewed by the 3 or 4 owners who control them all.

Keith said:

One thing I've realized in the last few weeks about .co is that the average domainer has almost zero chance of getting great keywords.

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It's all relative. The reality is that there are only about 600,000 "GREAT" keywords.

This gets used up very quickly and usually by people spending more than $22 acquiring them. They can also usually afford to renew them for years without too much concern.. and furthermore, drop them at a loss without it affecting the restaurants they dine in.

Yes. The market favors the rich, the wealthy, and the brave, or people "in the know".

The next reality for end users is that you can take TWO keywords and make millions of automatically considered great compounds (Tax Advisor/ Tax Consultant/ Tax Preparer/ Tax Lawyer).

These are still very hard to come by. while two terms compete better than many of the single keyword terms.

Where things get messy is with brandable-meaningful names which are plentiful. Even in .com you can find these unregistered (within reason).

The chances of an an end user settling on YOUR version of a memorable compound brand in the .CO decreases with the $ you are asking for and the number of competitive terms. If you even approach decent .com prices you're out of luck.

It seems to me that the people doing well in the .CO space understand this and are selling for immediate returns and letting everyone else hold and renew on future dreams. Lots of names in the $750-$5K where anything above that is unusual.

What I hope is that the great ROI investments aren't domainers selling to other domainers who are basing values on some real cat killer names and dreams of future fortunes. (I think a lot is).. but most of the sales I see are still protective in nature... but I'm not looking hard.

There are a fair number of drops and a fair number of people picking up names that dropped.

Again. Good luck to the players and especially to those who are bravely making it work in the face of criticism. I know you're out there laughing at the naysayers and not shedding a tear for the losers

Keith said:

Lol yes but renewed by the 3 or 4 owners who control them all.

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Is says a lot that they are doing it one year at a time. Doesn't to speak to long term investment/speculation to me - even from the major players.

That's bubble economics imho.

Yours Sincerely

Captain Obvious

Only about 100k 'great' keywords imho. Maybe another 500k 'good' ones.

All the 'great' ones in .co were gone long before they opened the registrations for us common folk.

All the good ones which people got can be resold right now for the range DU mentioned above, but those hoping for .com parity pricing have previous extensions like .mobi, .asia, etc to see where that boat is going.

Tbh, I've had my doubts about missing the boat w/ .co, specially in light of the tremendous marketing that co registry has been undertaking.

But you must realise, the promotion is to help the registry get more numbers and won't really contribute to resale pricing till their is mass adoption in terms of development.