br.com - not a cctld! - Page 2

MicroGuy · 08-17-2009, 11:44 AM

The problem is just as described by a very wise person a few posts up. If you go under, they go under. This has happened in the past and just happened again recently when the domain E.TV was stolen from the owner's Enom account.

Everyone who purchased those E.TV subdomains is up the creek.

DubDubDubDot · 08-17-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by JagG

Brazil.br.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/568341-br-com-not-a-cctld.html
Carnival.br.com
Flight.br.com
Flights.br.com

The fact that these prime keywords were available under what you thought was Brazil's ccTLD for just $40 each should have been a red flag.

This is like UnitedStates.us, Australia.com.au, UnitedKingdom.co.uk, etc... being available for reg fee.

JagG · 08-17-2009, 02:27 PM

This thread has started again LoL

Right this is what I think

1. $40 gone down the drain
2. Might work for someone else, Just not my cup of tea.

DubDubDubDot = When I was looking I did do a quick check On wiki, and thought I had a bargain.

firefly = I will do a lot research in the future, I have learned my lesson.

joezeppy = Thank you for the info

All the best

Jag

DiggleNamer · 08-17-2009, 05:59 PM

joezeppy - thank you for a rational injection. i agree that these names are a reasonable option, however, i believe that, all other things being equal, they will achieve a lower SERP than a TLD

lzy · 08-17-2009, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by JagG

Brazil.br.com
Carnival.br.com
Flight.br.com
Flights.br.com

As much as I don't think too much of .br.com, Brazil.br.com is actually a pretty nice one to own.

I would suggest you to develop a beautiful tourism site and flip it on webmaster forums or to another Brazil tourism site where you highlight the potential SEO benefits to them.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=568341

All the best!

.h2o. · 08-17-2009, 08:37 PM

As a warning, this is a bad idea. Sell them if you can. Basically you do not really own the domain as much as you like to think. I remember you could buy third level web.com domains. Then the company arbitrarily changed their mind and took back their URLs. That is some tough love for those previous owners.

Here's a link:

http://inside.123-reg.co.uk/archives...ains-read-this

MicroGuy · 08-17-2009, 08:56 PM

Another thing that I have yet to see mentioned, when you own a real domain you can browse to the root. This type of scheme only brings more traffic to the actual domain's website sales (parked revenue) even more. Unfortunately, not yours.

Don't even consider buying one of these things.

DiggleNamer · 08-18-2009, 03:26 PM

MicroGuy - if i have brazil.br.com and optimize it to get a good SERP i dont see how this does any good to br.com if there are no links from my site to that domain.

exsedo · 08-18-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by joezeppy

Hi All,

Somehow I missed this thread. I've been working for CentralNic since 2001. We've been selling our sub-domains since 1995. It's not a scam. I hope you'll allow me to make our case here...

When you register a domain name, you are given certain rights & abilities...

You can create, issue, and use email addresses on your domain
You can create, issue, and use sub-domains
You can create and place content...
amongst other things.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=568341
So just as ISPs, hosting companies, and domain holders of all sorts (including many members here) issue and/or sell email addresses on their domains for others to use, CentralNic sells sub-domains.

Companies like AOL, Earthlink, & Google have issued millions of email addresses on their domains. Hosting companies have issued sub-domains since the beginning of the Internet, some for a fee and some free. Issuing sub-domains is really no different than issuing email addresses, just less taken advantage of by most companies.

You can do the same on your domains if there is any demand. In our case there has been a demand and we've taken advantage of it since 1995. Nothing has ever been hidden, nor is there anything new here (and nor is it a "scam").

We do not call our domains "ccTLDS" or even "TLDs" and we do not encourage our registrars or resellers to do so either (although sometimes, mistakenly they do). We properly call our domains "two-letter, country-specific domain names" we do properly call them "alternative domain names" and we do properly call them "domain names". There is nothing misleading about that.

Regarding the claims that our domains can vanish if we go out of business. How can anyone defend that? All I can say is that we've demonstrated a commitment to the domain industry since 1995 and have no intentions of changing that. Anyone can go out of business. Even ccTLDs are subject to changes in government, etc. which happened with the .co ccTLD several years ago. So this is a risk that is inherent with many ccTLDs today. Regardless, I'll admit that this is a calculated risk that any registrant takes but our record has been very good and we've always been profitable and have hundreds of thousands of paid registrations and registrants that we are committed to as a business for over 14 years.

Regarding our pricing, it was the strategy we chose. We did not want to be the home to every spammer and phishing site online and did not want to give our sub-domains away. People have responded and given us business. We've watched many "free" sub-domain offers come and go in a blaze of spam and phishing sites. That was not what we wanted for our business. We chose a higher pricing level so that preferably serious buyers registered our names. We didn't want a single buyer to register all of the best domains. It's all just business and we don't twist people's arms.

Regarding value of the domains, we have always tried to be very careful NOT to create any hype or disinformation about our domains. Value is in the eyes of the buyer. We have tracked aftermarket activity and have seen a few of them sell for several thousand dollars in the aftermarket and we think their acceptance is growing. But we've never marketed them as "traffic" or "investment" type domains.

They are what they are; no more and no less. We provide an easy-to-remember alternative to the others. Anyway, I'm happy to answer any questions that people may have here.

You could quite easily have called them SUB-DOMAINS ? Which is an exact description.

JagG · 09-01-2009, 07:57 PM

Brazil.br.com is on auction
Lets see how it goes.

Szise · 09-02-2009, 03:32 AM

There is only difference:

br.com is private subdomain (second level domain).
com.br is national subdomain (second level domain).

br.com is not very bad in my opinion but is very risky use it.

JagG · 09-06-2009, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by JagG

Brazil.br.com is on auction
Lets see how it goes.

1 day left

08-17-2009, 11:44 AM	#26 (permalink)
MicroGuy Miembro Especial Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Debunking ccTLD Posts: 6,801	The problem is just as described by a very wise person a few posts up. If you go under, they go under. This has happened in the past and just happened again recently when the domain E.TV was stolen from the owner's Enom account. Everyone who purchased those E.TV subdomains is up the creek. __________________ ......

08-17-2009, 02:27 PM	THREAD STARTER #28 (permalink)
JagG NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 702	This thread has started again LoL Right this is what I think 1. $40 gone down the drain 2. Might work for someone else, Just not my cup of tea. DubDubDubDot = When I was looking I did do a quick check On wiki, and thought I had a bargain. firefly = I will do a lot research in the future, I have learned my lesson. joezeppy = Thank you for the info All the best Jag __________________  detelephone.fr FOR SALE  Facebook.com/FindDomain 

08-17-2009, 05:59 PM	#29 (permalink)
DiggleNamer NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UK&US Posts: 196	joezeppy - thank you for a rational injection. i agree that these names are a reasonable option, however, i believe that, all other things being equal, they will achieve a lower SERP than a TLD __________________ FOR-rwgt.com-SALE

08-17-2009, 08:37 PM	#31 (permalink)
.h2o. NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 542	As a warning, this is a bad idea. Sell them if you can. Basically you do not really own the domain as much as you like to think. I remember you could buy third level web.com domains. Then the company arbitrarily changed their mind and took back their URLs. That is some tough love for those previous owners. Here's a link: http://inside.123-reg.co.uk/archives...ains-read-this __________________ Clarification: "That's not a dotCom, that's a dotCo. You know, Co as in Mexico. " Last edited by .h2o.; 08-17-2009 at 08:42 PM.

08-17-2009, 08:56 PM	#32 (permalink)
MicroGuy Miembro Especial Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Debunking ccTLD Posts: 6,801	Another thing that I have yet to see mentioned, when you own a real domain you can browse to the root. This type of scheme only brings more traffic to the actual domain's website sales (parked revenue) even more. Unfortunately, not yours. Don't even consider buying one of these things. __________________ ......

08-18-2009, 03:26 PM	#33 (permalink)
DiggleNamer NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UK&US Posts: 196	MicroGuy - if i have brazil.br.com and optimize it to get a good SERP i dont see how this does any good to br.com if there are no links from my site to that domain. __________________ FOR-rwgt.com-SALE Last edited by DiggleNamer; 08-18-2009 at 03:27 PM. Reason: i typed wwwdotbr.com and some auto generated ad came up so i edited the post

09-01-2009, 07:57 PM	THREAD STARTER #35 (permalink)
JagG NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 702	Brazil.br.com is on auction Lets see how it goes. __________________  detelephone.fr FOR SALE  Facebook.com/FindDomain 

09-02-2009, 03:32 AM	#36 (permalink)
Szise NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Next Door Posts: 69	There is only difference: br.com is private subdomain (second level domain). com.br is national subdomain (second level domain). br.com is not very bad in my opinion but is very risky use it. __________________ Jogos

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