accent

Eh???
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In the last few days I hand regged these .mobi domains:
jyn = Japanese Yen official abbreviation
qkm = QuadratKiloMeter - German for square kilometre
qtc = measure of heart's electrical cycle + two high premium letters

Now, I'll grant you that I spent about 5 hours finding them.

In domaining, more than any other investment I know, you can substitute time for money.

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snoop

wtf? I'd say you just wasted that 5 hours.

mjbenterprises

There are people still regging mobis?? I thought the mobi fad died out a couple of years ago...I feel lucky in that I only lost a few hundred dollars in this dreadful extension...

u8l2

actually i regged a drop less than 2 weeks ago and have already earned $135 USD. I feel sorry for people that dont develop there names.

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Archangel

Let me add a few things in here:

1.) No one should downplay an extension simply because a few ppl are jaded by it. Sure, there have been ppl who've lost money with .mobi but there are ppl who've profitted well from it. Besides, I've known at least 1 person who had lost apx $9,000 after hand regging a load of worthless .coms. You heard it right, folks -- a guy LOST damn close to early $xx,xxx from .COM! So... should we all denounce .com and try our luck with .ws or .cc, just because of one guy who didn't understand this game?

2.) There are still many ppl who buy .mobi. Check out DN Sale Price- Domain Name Sales Price and History and search for .mobi, There are a lot of SEDO sales mentioneed, all dated May 9th, that I'm unsure of. Look beyond those ones, on page 2 and beyond, and you'll see that .mobi HAS been selling pretty well.
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3.) We are back to pondering about these remaining LLL.mobi. accentnepal regged 3 of them for his own reasons. I won't speculate on whether they were good pick-ups or bad. My point is: They were regged. If there is ever another LLL buyout, it would depend on on many factors. I do believe, though, that if a buyout occured again, it would hold. ppl enter this game everyday. There are over 150,000 users here at NP. How many of them have ever made more than $1,000 from this endeavor? I have. I'm sure snoop has. RJ had. A lot of us had. But I'm betting over 80% of the users here haven't had a $xxxx sale yet -- nor have ever made $xxxx with domains at all. I think it'll be these ppl who'll snap up an expired LLL.mobi once all LLL.mobi are registered. But that's just a guess.

accent

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Predictions are worth what you pay for them (nothing), granted, but that one is a monster.

.Mobi seems to be getting about 25% of made-for-mobile web traffic at the moment.

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snoop

What do you base that on? It has been discussed before many times that really no major websites are using the extension for their mobile sites.

Archangel

I have to agree. I've seen a load of .mobi forward to a .com or similar but I haven't seen many developed .mobi sites

accent

Again I say EH?

There are a whole lot of major companies using .Mobi sites. Here is Pred's list from OKOK.mobi:

News
The Times.mobi
The Sun.mobi
News Of The World.mobi
Fox.mobi
Telegraaf.mobi
Gazeta.mobi
Elpais.mobi
LaVanguardia.mobi
SignOn.mobi
NYPost.mobi

Sport
UFC.mobi
NBA.mobi top US Basketball league
WNBA.mobi
ESPN.mobi Biggest cable sports network
RealMadrid.mobi
Patriots.mobi _ USA football team
THN.mobi
FoxSports.mobi

Banks
Bofa.mobi Bank of America
Deutsche-Bank.mobi
Wachovia.mobi
Barclays.mobi
RBC.mobi
PCB.mobi
RainierPacificBank.mobi
SocieteGenerale.mobi
BCGE.mobi
BridgeWaterSavingBank.mobi
myWSB.mobi
ProsperityBank.mobi
RCBBank.mobi
Bank-Northwest.mobi
BCI.mobi
LaCaixa.mobi
DBOnline.mobi
BMarch.mobi
CommerceBank.mobi
BancoReal.mobi
Bnkngo.mobi
PBEBank.mobi
BOQ.mobi
CreditPlus.mobi
Chase.mobi
FirstInterstate.mobi
UniCreditGroup.mobi
SBCell.mobi
StandardBank.mobi
Bank1Saar.mobi
CajaMurcia.mobi
TCUMobile.mobi
BA2GO.mobi
WSECU.mobi
MFFCU.mobi
WebFNB.mobi
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GreatFloridaBank.mobi
FNB.mobi
GrupoBancoPopular.mobi
StandardChartered.mobi

Magazines
Time.mobi
BusinessWeek.mobi
CNNMoney.mobi
Maxim.mobi
Metro.mobi
EzineArticles.mobi
AutoTrader.mobi
Entrepreneur.mobi
NGC.mobi - National Geographic

Fashion
Adidas.mobi
Polo.mobi
Lacoste.mobi
DolceGabbana.mobi
RalphLauren.mobi
Fashionated.mobi
JetFashion.mobi
LegitFashion.mobi
Stella McCartney.mobi

Games
XBox.mobi
IGN.mobi
Games.mobi
CoolGorilla.mobi

I am not going to check all these to see if some redirect to m.domain.com or whatever - in my opinion that does not matter - a customer can use a .mobi address to access the mobile-friendly site and that is what matters.

Added later:
volvoc70act.mobi - Autos
VolvoCars.mobi
Disney.mobi
RadioDisney.mobi
Several other sites for Disney movies
Nokia.mobi and a number of other sites from Nokia which is .Mobi's principal backer.
World.mobi - World Travel Awards (Travel industry Oscars)
City.mobi, leading mobile travel portal
Gettag.mobi - Microsoft barcode site
Smirnoff.mobi - Vodka
Intoyoumovie.mobi - Warner Bros movie
ArtNet.mobi
Mercedes.mobi - Autos
bmw.mobi - Autos

More from Pred
Charities:
greenpeace.mobi
wwf.mobi
salvationarmy.mobi
chinaredcross.mobi
autism.mobi
compassion.mobi
nwf.mobi

These are listed at Why.mobi:
DietCoke.mobi (Coke.mobi was used in a promo last summer)
Heineken.mobi - Beer
Marriott.mobi - hotels
DHL.mobi - package delivery
Ferrari.mobi - Autos
DolceGabbana.mobi
UniversalPictures.mobi
Cisco.mobi
Iberia.mobi
ING.mobi
Hertz.mobi - Auto rental
MSN.mobi
JaguarXF.mobi Autos
Purina.mobi - Pet foods
Weather.mobi - The Weather Channel
Fidelity.mobi - Investments
Lufthansa.mobi - Airline
HSBCfrance.mobi
Zagat.mobi - travel
Castrol.mobi - Motor oil
BenettonPress.mobi - Fashion
Rolls-Royce.mobi


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OK, that should be more than enough.

As for the very top - Google is listed as a backer as is Microsoft and their lukewarm acceptance to date has been frustrating to Mobi investors. eBay.mobi has been rumored to be in preparation - putting eBay auctions on mobile would be a huge undertaking, so patience is the word there. There is the possibility that both Google and Yahoo are waiting to secure G.mobi and Y.mobi, (one and some two character .mobis have been approved by ICANN). Big companies are rarely first to market, though, and their slowness was predictable.

There are a lot of people who just do not like .Mobi, and that is their privilege. I would agree that it is a very speculative extension (and domains themselves are speculative). Nobody should put all or most of their domain investment money into .Mobis. But the possibility of excellent returns, compared to the risks, seems worthwhile to me.

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snoop

I've see that list cut and pasted dozens of times now and I cringe everytime I see it, stuff like purina.mobi and DHL.mobi is not signifcant usage. Not many people would consider any of the those listed below "major websites". Are of those companies even in the top 100 websites?

fire123togo

mobi is fit for banking,travel,airfly ,stock , games on mobile phone now
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eg:
Bofa.mobi Bank of America
Deutsche-Bank.mobi
Wachovia.mobi
Barclays.mobi
RBC.mobi
CNNMoney.mobi
XBox.mobi
Nokia.mobi
Weather.mobi
HSBCfrance.mobi
Zagat.mobi
airfrance.mobi

it seems that no .net sites on top 100

why always compare .mobi to .com ?

I dont cringe I see below:
Famous Brands adopting Dot Mobi |Mobi Site |.mobi sites| Mobile Brands

snoop

I'm not comparing it to .com and I'm not suggesting .mobi sites should be in the top 100. I'm saying those companies/sites are hardly major internet companies that are likely to influence others, how many of them are even in the top 100? Are any of them? How often do you visit xbox.com or barclays website? Does anyone aside from domainers really care what they use for their mobile site? For .mobi to ever get to critical mass it would take the likes of google, yahoo, facebook etc to be using & promoting it, and the chance of that has now been and gone, they all just use their current domain, it makes alot more sense.

fire123togo

why.es
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054
why.co.uk
why.it
why.net
....
can u tell why

fire123togo

here is
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054

where your mobile phone visits

and which is fit better for mobile phone

m dot is ok ,mobile dot and .mobi ...

if a user just takes care his phone for banking

google may not take a great role for him

however ,google.mobi is feasible

snoop

I'm not entirely sure of what you are saying but not much point in saying "google.mobi is feasible" or that ".mobi is ok". Google doesn't use it, no other signifcant website uses it either. We are left with a a few dozen "B list" websites like purina.mobi and xbox.mobi for people to cut and paste on message boards.

In short what matters is what is happening, not what domainers think should happen.

HeyNow

Don't forget:

Hilton.mobi
Sheraton.mobi
Marriott.mobi
Doubletree.mobi
HamptonInn.mobi

accent

People are/will use the mobile web in very different ways than they use the PC web. When they use their phones they want specific information and they want it quickly. They usually do not surf - there is no time and the small screen is not well suited to large amounts of information. It is a radically different market.
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Thus, developed .Mobi domains have a strong concentration in specific industries - often industries that are not the top players in the PC internet:
Banking
Hotels / travel
Luxury Automobiles

Pay attention, this is really significant:
A very large percentage of the key players in all three of those industries are on .Mobi.
Now. Not in domainer's fantasies. Now.

Only two and a half years in, with mass adoption of the mobile web (which nearly everyone agrees is coming) only just begun.


Snoop - when you began purchasing domains I am sure that many people told you that you were wasting your money. But you saw the potential, and took the risk. Today mobile shows great potential. And certainly risk, too. But the safe investor does not get the big gains.

I can see two places that domainers can attempt to ride the mobile wave - .Mobi and short .coms. If you were going to buy domains for the mobile web with a small budget where would you go?

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scandiman

What a straw man.

Lets look at the top 100 global companies as rated by Forbes and you'll see that the .mobi adoption rate thus far is at about 10%. The Global 2000 - Forbes.com

Do you actually believe the top 100 global companies don't have any influence?

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.mobi is for a certain breed of websites. It's been explained what types of sites ppl develop .mobis for. And the arguement that the screens on cells are small & can't hold as much info is valid. .mobi is not the ground-breaking extension that has the world in its grasps (if you're looking for one of those, then .com should be up your alley) but its usage is becoming more trivial. I still don't see enough developed .mobis but some are coming up. And please don't gimme any crap about "B-listers" and websites that weren't made by the Donald or Gates. Most of them mentioned above are MILLION TO BILLION DOLLAR businesses. What's there to argue?

snoop

I'd like to see where your 10% figure came from.

Secondly I'm talking about popular websites. Large real world companies is not the same thing as popular on the Internet, who cares what Chevron or Berkshire Hathaway uses for their mobile website.

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Actually the first names I registered resulted in losses. I don't remember anyone telling me I was wasting my money and I wish they had have.
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It took me about 6 months to realize that in this business most people either make money from their portfolios straight away or they never make any money at all. ie The model needs to work today, rarely do people "speculating" do well.

The issue in my mind is that .mobi and been and gone, 2 years ago it had potential, today the reality is it has a very small % of the mobile browsing market.

I can see some benefits in short domains but to be honest I don't think the mobile browsing is really a big deal for any part of the domain industry. Most companies just use the domain they already have (m. or auto detect) or make something up, just like they always did. Typing on an iphone isn't that hard, having said that though typing a .mobi domain involves 4 extra keypresses compared to a .com so if you think shortness is a major factor then .mobi certainly isn't doesn't work well in that respect.

tony_np

Hello:

I just know: this thread is going to its page 8, but still no Buyout.

Is there somebody join with me to buyout ?

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Archangel

A buyout shouldn't be expected anytime soon but in awhile. I think I'll update the list this afternoon (it's almost 4am here as I'm typing this)

fire123togo

discount24.mobi is on auction
Current Bid: 6,000 EUR
Auction Detail*-*Sedo.co.uk

why not use auto detect to save 6,000 EUR

accent

A buyout engineered by domainers will mean little. If LLL.mobis (and keywords) belong in your portfolio because you think they are good investments then select some. But do not expect to quickly flip them for a large profit - the economy is much too bad for that. Long term I think they are good investments - Snoop (who has been at this a lot longer than I) does not. So you have to make up your own mind.

Do you mean PPC? When I first started that was all I heard - buy domains with traffic that converts. I have never seen such a domain for reg fee - and sellers want full value for them. Times have changed. If the number of websites continues to grow rapidly (looks like it will) then money is to be made supplying endusers with domain names they cannot find for reg fee - such as, perhaps, LLL.mobis.
The American auto industry just used the designs they already have (SUVs or auto defective) or make something up, just like they always did.
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A stretch, granted, but I could not resist. The point is that there are predictions that mobile will become larger than PC in advertising revenue - no less than the president of Google said that. And with a new field of play the winners and losers will be different. A lot of business models will emerge that had little value on the PC internet. Shopping guides based on your exact location (GPS), with bar coded coupons for instant use - just one example. A vast new market that will want to identify themselves as mobile.
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And to show your customers that your site is designed for mobile use the simplest, most elegant method is a .mobi domain. Sure, many older companies are using various alternatives. Some probably will eventually use .Mobi, if only to redirect. A lot are already are using .Mobi

Google.mobi is an interesting case. The site now is a place to download apps for mobile phones, not a mobile search. I have a strong suspicion that is because the mobile search engine will be at G.mobi . With their backer status and market clout all Google would have to do is convince DotMobi that they will promote the site properly - the domain is DotMobi's to give, at no charge, to whomever they believe will most help the growth of the mobile web. And add this - I have heard that Google paid $1 million for G.cn (China). They are using it now as a redirect to Google.cn. G.mobi could be a game changer.

The show has not really begun. At the moment .Mobi has a significant part - not dominant, but pretty good. And that would be fine - if in 5 years .Mobi has 25% of mobile web traffic then .Mobi investors with well selected names will be very very happy.

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GijsZePa

Mmmm..I've had a 400% ROI with handregged .mobis. Just sold 107 (almost all handregged last 2 years) .mobis for 4K this week..
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No complaining here..

Martin

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