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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 The LLLL.com situation is quite difference because confidence in that market is significantly higher than .mobi. There is at least some degree of enduser demand for higher quality names and a significantly larger number of participants compared to the LLL.mobi market. Having said that lately (in the last couple of days) some LLLL.com's have taken 2 hours to get reregistered, personally I think that buyout is not as "iron clad" as I thought previously.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | well, although in general .COM has a much much much higher usage/end user demand... there are only 17,576 possible 3 letter domains as compared to 4 letter domains..... and even .BIZ and .INFO 3 letter domains are all sold out. itll happen with .mobi again eventually... however i originally predicted around 1 month and i was dead wrong! but others were much more optimistic than me predicting a few days or a few weeks within the day the buyout was broken. i honestly cant even make a realistic prediction at this point... anything could happen including no buyout at all until 2010... hell maybe even 2011.
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 the ideal situation for a LLL.mobi buyout would be for around maybe 500 to be available very close to the landrush renewal date (Sept. 26th) and THEN have an individual do a buyout. in that situation, the landrush drops would likely get picked up immediately by others (or not dropped at all) and a few months after that (if all goes as planned) you could flip most of em and recover your funds... while at the same time spreading out the amount of people that own them. im not sure how profitable this would actually be though.. almost sounds like more trouble than its worth - which is why they're still sitting available.
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In reality it is a gamble and you could make this argument about anything you like ..............buy a little AIG stock, it is only 35 cents per share, what is to lose?.... The potential loss is everything you put in, and most people probably won't invest an amount that is insignificant to them because in that case the potential gain is likely insignificant as well. Generally people will invest an amount that is meaningful to them. | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Apologies if I sound repetitious. I'm trying to get more feedback on this issue -- if a small investment like this seems worth the hassle. So far, some ppl seem to think it's a good idea and some are reluctant. That's kinda what I assumed since not everything is one-sided. (Almost everyone hated Bush, it seems, but he still had some supporters) ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | small investments are cool and will actually make the buyout more sustainable. im not saying you'll make money with em... but if the registrations are stretched out for a long enough period of time, the buyout will hold.. even if you drop em the next year. but in a larger sense, i liked how snoop put it earlier - throwing on top of the bonfire... cause for now, thats what it is. ill be watching this LLL.mobi situation closely though.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Good point, reps added I've never really felt that it'd be a smart idea to own hundreds of these at this point (but if I had beaucoup money, buying them out wouldn't be a bad idea, I don't think). I'll be happy with my 2 for now & pick up a few more later if it seems feasible. And of course I'll try to keep this thread updated.
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i meant to say could lead to HUGE landrush LLL.mobi drops... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 and this is true because speculators own most of the LLL anyway and a majority will base their decision to renew another year on whether they are all sold out. just to be clear, every time i've mentioned "landrush drops" in this thread i was referring only to LLL.mobi but its certainly possible for a lot more generics to drop this year again - wouldnt have anything to do with the LLL.mobi situation though..
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Updated: These were taken EQS.MOBI EQX.MOBI FVW.MOBI HZL.MOBI KYN.MOBI KZT.MOBI LTZ.MOBI MZO.MOBI ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 NCQ.MOBI PJR.MOBI QMJ.MOBI RIY.MOBI SQJ.MOBI TCX.MOBI TJQ.MOBI TUQ.MOBI TYX.MOBI TZO.MOBI UCJ.MOBI VKF.MOBI VTW.MOBI VXO.MOBI WZS.MOBI XMI.MOBI YBK.MOBI YGT.MOBI ZBN.MOBI ZHM.MOBI ZWT.MOBI There appears to be some kind of an error, possibly on my part. The official number dropped around 400-500 or so in a few days... this couldn't be. Could someone scan the list over? I think I messed up somehow |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I fixed the error and rescanned the entire list. There are 1,916 LLL.mobi domains. 1,984 were avail around 3/1/09. They aren't being gobbled up but it seems that people are taking an interest in them. At this rate, it'll still take awhile to sell out. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 I recall long ago when you could hang-reg a CCC.com and I just passed it up. Everyone said they were a waste of money. And now look at them. They're not million-dollar domains but they can fetch ya at least $100-150 these days. The same went with all LLLL.coms (until the bubble busted). I'm gonna hold onto my 2 and probably take a few others. I know I've mentioned that a lot in this thread but I really do see a possible wave coming along in the future. And I'll be double-damned if I let this one go by |
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 I doubt "everyone" said CCC.com were a waste of money, probably some did though. That isn't to say to history will repeat for every category you can think of, CCC.com and LLLL.com makes a heck of a lot more sense than LLL.mobi to me. Even with LLLL.com, the first buyout collapsed (2000-2001). If you'd bought low quality ones when they became available again (I think 2001-2002), you still have names that are basically worthless today. | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I don't think there's any arguement over it. CCC.com were reg fee many years back but are worth a decent amount today. Does that mean LLL.mobi will follow suit? Nah. It means that it MIGHT, not that it WILL. But in the case that it happens, I wanna be prepared with a few decent LLL. Even you, snoop, would have loved to get your hands on some LLL.net earlier (if you hadn't, that is). I recall a thread around 2003 or so that had LLL.nets selling for about $65 each. BUT yeah, with that thinking, LLL.mobi might not be worth $2,000 each anytime soon, maybe not for 5-8 years perhaps. But okay, with that thinking: I'd risk owning 10 LLL.mobis and renewing them each 5 years if they wind up turning $1,000 profit each. The simple math: Assuming regging/renewing was a flat $10, then it'd cost $50 a domain total. Subtract $50 from $1,000 and there's your profit. I'm not saying these will ever hit that mark but then again, I don't know. You don't know, snoop. No one reading this thread knows. No one knows what the next 5 years will bring. All we can do is speculate, which is all I'm doing.
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For something like an LLL.net to actually keep paying those reg fees with no actual ROI over that time (other than by selling) would have been hard. How many people do you know of who got rich by speculating in LLL.net? The industry had a massive boom and I still don't know of anyone.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I would prefer a slower sellout this time. If it does happen in say a year it's more likely the people holding them might not be resellers making the existing ones more difficult to grab. On a positive note people are still talking about mobi...no such thing as bad publicity as they say. I grabbed a few, 7 to be exact and if I can sell one next year for $100 I am even. If not I fork out $50 a year for 2-3 years and see where the market is headed. I spend $50-$100 in 30 minutes at the casino...I think my odds might not be any worse with mobi. There are lots of reasons to be bearish on mobi but let's be frank...it's been beaten down pretty far (reg fee) and maybe it deserves it and maybe it doesn't.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | All this talk about LLL sellouts is just a myopic domainer thing and doesn't mean all that much in the big scheme of things. No matter what the extension, end users (where the real sales are made) don't know or care about any other domain other than the one they come to you for (via whois or online listing or that you introduce and present to them via proactive marketing). The better and more often used the letters, the larger the potential universe of application there is for an acronym and hence the better chance of a decent sale. Buying the last mostly unwanted letter combo names in any LLL or LLLL "domainer buyout" is a low odds bet subject to greater domainer-activity related fluctuation. Having a number of LLLs gives better odds that someone will be looking for one of them. If the selling price covers the reg fees for the rest of your LLL holdings then you are doing well to start, and everything after that is gravy. Actively finding potential end users wil increase the success rate but it seems that most domainers do not bother to do the legwork. Even if one does the research finding potential end users for all the X,Y,Z,K LLLs it is an uphill battle. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 If one wants to think in terms of buyouts, you should consider "best letter" buyouts and then the remaining "junk" letter buyout names as a separate group. . |
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