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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/565054-official-lll-mobi-possible-buyout.html To make a profit you've only got to sell them for $10 each. Could that be done? Who's to say.... But yes I agree that a buyout right now would be quite risky..... but considering that there's only $15k in available LLL.mobi's out there, I believe that a buyout will be done, and in [much] less than a year. $15k spread between thousands of domainers..... yes, it will be done... | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | If I had $15k TO SPARE then I'd buy them out. Right now, I don't have $1k to spare lol so a little investment isn't bad. I regged MXB.mobi & BGX.mobi a week back. Are they great? No. Are they perfect investments? Nah. Are they guaranteed to make me rich? Hell no. lol But there are chances that otherwise I'll sell them in 2 years for $200-500+ each and chances that I'll be wasting my money. And I'm a good investor. I'm willing to risk about $30 to make $500-1k or so. There are no guarantees in domaining but there is speculation. And I'm happy enough with that. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | If anyone's interested, here's that .mobi list with their respective Google results (without the extension) http://pastebin.com/m3ca9f88b
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If 10% of them regged just 1 LLL.mobi, well... is that hard to digest? I regged 2 recently and I've seen another reg about 5-8 or so. So yeah, I agree with you -- a buyout within a year is possible. It might not happen but it's possible.
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 selling for $10ea is trickier than it sounds... once you start to flood the market they will quickly drop back to reg-fee (or unsellable) temporarily... this is what the previous owner of the 4,700 LLL.mobi's realized only he was a little too extreme about how many he held. i actually purchased 100 LLL.mobi from the guy that previously owned em and he was concerned with whether i intended to flip them on the forums or hold them myself. i paid about $7,500 for 100 crappy LLL back in early 2008 and sold them for all $80-$100ea and if you recall my threads on the other .mobi forum, it was hard to push them at even that price which was unheard of back then. i continued to set the minimum LLL.mobi price until the buyout broke. I did the L-L.mobi and N-N.mobi buyout like 2 weeks after the LLL.mobi buyout happened... cost me about $9,000... so i have tried stuff like this before and when you flood the market the value drops to almost nothing. I made money with the L-L.mobi/N-N.mobi buyout but if i would have choose to hold i woulda lost my ass.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I do think that a buyout will occur sooner than most expect. But yes IF it were done by one person (I think it will be a combination) they would have to pretty much count on getting a handful of end user sales, and not rely on selling to domainers. Not a great gamble to make... but who knows... all I'm sayin' is it would be an interesting investment to make................
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IF another buyout occurs, surely most of those domains will be held by investors. Some will flip them and others will hold onto them. The real endusers won't be seen until more moile-complient sites are made. So you might have to hold one for 1-2 years (or longer) before it's worth much. But I couldn't foresee anyone doing a quick-flip of $10 each. Chances are, they'l have a decent asking price & the domains might not sell. After awhile, he might let them drop. But you know how the market is: If all LLL.mobis were gone and then one pops up on an expired list, it'll likely be taken. The only real killer would be if more developed mobile sites aren't made anytime soon. And as companies keep trying to pursue customers, surely we'll see some more soon, thus LLL's will be desired once again. But WHEN this happens is anyone's guess.
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I've heard this so many times, usually it is people in appraisal threads trying to justify their crazy valuations of names saying that they'd buy the name for that price "if they had the money". Of course in reality if they did that they'd probably lose most of their money. For one person to buy 2000 lll.mobi would just create another overhang and no sensible domainer is likely to do it anytime soon. Historically when one person buys out a big chunk of the names the buyout often (usually?) falls over, a bit like what happened to LLLL.com in 2000-2001, it took another 7 years for another buyout to occur, one that has lasted (thus far anyway).
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I wouldn't seriously support or recommend a one-man buyout... (the better idea would be to register enough of the "better" ones to push other domainers to finish the remaining (absolute lowest quality) LLL's off for you. )I'm just saying that I do think a buyout will happen, and I don't think it'll take a year. I'm not going to do a buyout, and no, I wouldn't even if I had the funds to do such. I don't even like crappy LLL combos in any extension. MUCH better investments out there to be made imho. Names like the ones in my sig are the type of .mobi's I like.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Egnited, you are such a positive person. How much dot mobi are you developing?
__________________ I am a domainer! for sale: qale.com, exfu.com, carvalve.com, aoon.com, histake.com, listoffer.com, recipe.asia, herbs.asia, craft.asia, product.asia, stream.asia (this one can be the next streaming online/cloud stuff). PM ME NOW! |
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I've developed a number of .mobi sites in the past couple years, but most were either for domainer clients, or are sites that I've since sold. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 Right now I am hard at work on development of a St Louis site, as well as continuing the development of my Spanish.mobi translation tool. I'm a supporter of high quality, full-effort development, which explains why I might appear to be moving slowly. | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I see, high quality, your at the top of the food chain. I got into domaining in 2003 to develop a site in simple html for my organization. After it was done, never looked back, just purchased a bunch of not so great domain and held them until today. Kind of crazy, I had them on renewal up to 10 years until expiration date, thought someone would buy it. When I first heard of dot Mobi and dot Info, I was like, all the money have been made in Dot Com so there's no use. Which was wrong then when it first launches, however now, that theory seems to be correct. The early bird gets the worms. The rest take flight.
__________________ I am a domainer! for sale: qale.com, exfu.com, carvalve.com, aoon.com, histake.com, listoffer.com, recipe.asia, herbs.asia, craft.asia, product.asia, stream.asia (this one can be the next streaming online/cloud stuff). PM ME NOW! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I actually rate Mobi a buy now. It's really come to a full circle where valuations are near reg fee. How much more attractive can you get? Now when you buy mobi you know what you are getting.Paying $200 or $300 for a mobi imho seemed overinflated for such a new extension. I grabbed 7 at reg fee today. I might develop one or two but at reg prices you can't go wrong for development. And if I happen to find a buyer for one or two then that's cool too. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 Mobi has corrected and in a big way. The underlying arguments that promobi's have always made at least now have a value...reg fee. I can agree with that. imho...I have a fair chance of selling one or two in a few years to possibly break even. Maybe even a chance I can get more. mTLD is a POS and Jeff is right on that front but realistically mTLD doesn't have complete control over the success of mobi. If it is to do well it's from development. At reg fee it's a good argument to experiment and see if you can get momentum on one. We'll see. I am a bit more optimistic now. However realize that all those people gouging about mobi early on..know full well they overpaid and made seriously bad investments.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | it will be difficult to get buyout, because: 1. current active dotmobi domainer population is small. 2. most of the active ones get enough dotmobis in the laundrush ii. who will buyout the lll.mobi? unless lots of new dotmobi domainers come. based on the eco recession now, it will be few new ones. for example, i got double dotmobi in this ii as i have before. difficult to sell decent one at the price $75 each. i do not think i will invest more now. fortunately, i sold several to end users. it help me as part of the renewal fees |
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | i dominated the .mobi drops last year including the LLL's until snap/pool finally got involved... the LLL.mobi drops were competitive until they were available for reg-fee. towards the end, when i knew the buyout was about to be broken, i'd routinely delete the lower quality LLL's i had registered the previous night and people would immediately register em. but, i just know that if even the lowest quality LLL.mobi are still sitting available for reg-fee this year when the landrush drops happen that every single LLL wont get picked up on the drop... and this could lead to HUGE landrush drops.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Just to help people out, I remove the worst ones (with q, x, y, z) and here are the good ones that are still available: CKJ.MOBI EVH.MOBI EVK.MOBI FGK.MOBI FVJ.MOBI FVW.MOBI FWV.MOBI GJK.MOBI GJV.MOBI GKF.MOBI GKH.MOBI GKJ.MOBI GKP.MOBI GKR.MOBI HJV.MOBI HVP.MOBI HWJ.MOBI HWV.MOBI JKV.MOBI JSV.MOBI JVE.MOBI JVK.MOBI JVR.MOBI JVW.MOBI JWF.MOBI JWI.MOBI JWV.MOBI KGD.MOBI KGJ.MOBI KGU.MOBI KHF.MOBI KHJ.MOBI KHP.MOBI KJD.MOBI KJF.MOBI KJG.MOBI KRV.MOBI LWJ.MOBI LWU.MOBI NVJ.MOBI NVK.MOBI OFV.MOBI OGV.MOBI PJR.MOBI PJU.MOBI PJV.MOBI PKJ.MOBI RJE.MOBI RKF.MOBI RKG.MOBI RKU.MOBI RWJ.MOBI SJV.MOBI TJV.MOBI TKV.MOBI UAK.MOBI UBW.MOBI UCJ.MOBI UFK.MOBI UHJ.MOBI UWH.MOBI VBD.MOBI VBF.MOBI VBJ.MOBI VBK.MOBI VBP.MOBI VBT.MOBI VCK.MOBI VFH.MOBI VFJ.MOBI VFK.MOBI VFN.MOBI VFU.MOBI VFV.MOBI VGK.MOBI VJB.MOBI ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=565054 VJD.MOBI VJE.MOBI VJG.MOBI VJH.MOBI VJI.MOBI VJL.MOBI VJM.MOBI VJT.MOBI VKC.MOBI VKD.MOBI VKF.MOBI VKG.MOBI VKH.MOBI VKJ.MOBI VKM.MOBI VKN.MOBI VKT.MOBI VMJ.MOBI VNJ.MOBI VNW.MOBI VPW.MOBI VTW.MOBI VWC.MOBI VWK.MOBI VWN.MOBI VWP.MOBI VWT.MOBI VWU.MOBI WCK.MOBI WGK.MOBI WJF.MOBI WJK.MOBI WJU.MOBI WKJ.MOBI WKR.MOBI WNU.MOBI WPU.MOBI WRJ.MOBI WUJ.MOBI WVF.MOBI WVG.MOBI WVH.MOBI WVK.MOBI WVL.MOBI WVM.MOBI WVN.MOBI WVP.MOBI WVT.MOBI I am considering getting a few of these better ones, but I thought I would go ahead and share them with you. As you can see, there are only 125 quality ones left. Someone can buy out these 125 quite easily. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Nice list, reps added ![]() I see some decent acronyms in here. FWV could easily be a site based in West Virginia (W VA but technically, the abb is WV). I might reg a few of these after all. I got BGX.mobi seeing that it has good acronym potential.
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