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I think Ms Domainer had the best idea, I need to leave this forum too. Last edited by plaggypig; 09-15-2009 at 12:37 PM. | ||||
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| NamePros Member | And, as far as I know, .tel is the only extension that natively comes with 2 layouts, mobile and desktop ...
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Depending on your mobile connection there may be, but we are at the point now where .com load times are no longer a burden on decent connections. And remember one thing: Advancements in mobile connections do not help .tel. It hurts .tel by helping .com and thus taking the speed argument away from .tel. ---------- Post added at 01:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 AM ----------
As I said yesterday about end users tossing the free logo aside that came with the domain, I believe that .tel's built in development may have a similar effect. If a company has (or has the ability to have) a contact system set up on their site that is mobile compatible, what kind of an argument is there to use .tel? What would you say to them? (We'll assume that the cost of the aftermarket .tel and the cost of the .com design work cancel each other out). | ||||||||
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| Account Closed | Quote: "The developer end user who can afford to buy a $xxx, $x,xxx or even $xx,xxx .tel from a domainer is a developer who can implement mobile support for their .com." You don't have to be a developer to do that. You can: 1.) Use INSTANTMOBILIZER for .mobi, or 2.) Integrate .tel into a existing website (.com). Quote: "As I said yesterday about end users tossing the free logo aside that came with the domain, I believe that .tel's built in development may have a similar effect." 1.) One can not replace the .tel logo, 2.) One can only replace the domain name with a custom heading. This requires some coding of both the backend and the front-end, but it's definitely on the roadmap of Telnic. You sound like someone, who is not properly listning to others, and who has never made some experience with a own .tel domain, and is doing everything, so that he has not use .tel. A sort of defensive atitude. Why all the fuss? Why not just try it out, instead of posting so much talk about .tel? Why not just benefit from .tel, instead of trying to put it down? Look: All that energy you have been using talking about .tel: You could use it, to make some serious business and money with creating and selling .com domain names. You are starting to waste your time. We have read all your posts and arguements. And .tel is still, what is is, and is appreciated and helps boost businesses. If you have some constructive contributons for .tel, go to the .tel forum at the Telnic website. And try to be really useful, for the community. But this is not the way, to go about it. If there are some valuable arguements, that you have posted, they will sure be looked at, for a further examination. Otherwhise, you are only starting to put people off, who have read all your posts, and who have tried to follow your comments. This looks more destructive, than constructive, to me. |
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| NamePros Member | Surfing .com pages are a pain in the...from a cellphone, because of all the flash stuff etc etc...It could also cost you alot of datatraffic money depending on where you are etc. Sure some pages have a special cellphone page, but not all. Often with a cellphone you just want to get the contact/location info and you will be 100% sure that you don't get any unecesary information when browsing .tels. Therefor a .tel could become a firstchoice when using cellphones.
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| NamePros Member |
The comparisons of apples to oranges and the mudslinging is comical, but that's about it. The REAL .tel developments are happening outside of this space. | ||||
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| | #5782 (permalink) |
| TelShowcase.com | Yes it's starting to be boring now with no real news about .tel Here are some good news for mobile devices ads and could benefits .tel as soon as ads will be available. http://www.thedomains.com/2009/09/16...n-a-banner-ad/
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Pay Per Call/Action is where the real money is. yext is already doing $20m revenue and growing fast - smart business, I just think .tel is a better platform for it than the web. -- Writing some benchmark tests to show DubDubDubDot the speed advantage. | ||||
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| Account Closed | Compare: a commercial .tel directory with a city, city regions with domain categories, districts with domains, a apartment building with a domain section, a apartment with a domain section category. a apartment sharer with a subdomain renter (company/address with district name). Imagine, you are the owner, or care taker of the directory. Have you ever heard about one single person, taking care of a whole city? Probably not: But you have heard about concierges taking care of apartment buildings and their apartments. Which means, that if you want to populate your city, and as a property owner, select and choose the tenants, and then maintain the city, the apartment buildings and their apartments, and do all the adminstrative work, that goes with it, that means you would have a lot of work, and spend a lot of time, and that is simply impossible, for one person to do. That is why the work and tasks are split up, divided: every well-kept apartment building has its own concierge, for example. If you have a big city with nice apartment buildings, they would be maintained and well-kept by concierges. And all tenants would be happy, because every thing in the building and apartment works and functions, and is well maintained. And there is allways the concierge, to help, repair, and to update, whatever needs to be updated. Now, if you have got a big commercial directory, you probably would soon be overstrained and overburdend, otherwhise. So you might be smart, and employ a concierge for each of your section categories within your domain categories. So that they are always up to date. Your job would be, to find new apartment-sharers, and to rent out the apartments, where apartment-sharing communities live. Respectively, to find companies who want to rent a subdomain in a exclusive apartment building, that has a good address. As a commercial .tel directory gives much more work, than a white or yellow pages directory with entries, that stay the same, and get outdated, after a while, you might want to make a few thoughts about organisation..., if you want happy and loyal tenants, and a regular income. |
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| TelShowcase.com | THAT'S WHAT I DO SO this is a proof. I hate search with my cellphone browser .com site, I usually type .mobi at end after keyword because I'm sure it fit my Iphone browser and not have to ZOOM each time.
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| | #5787 (permalink) |
| NamePros Member | .Tel is like the MCDonalds of domains. People know what they get, its simple, and they get it quick. Add to that, that its much easier for avarage joy to get some content online than a .com domain... In some situations thats a major advantage.
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| | #5788 (permalink) |
| Account Closed | @ DubDubDubDot: Your quote; "Interesting. So .com mobile support will be so bad that the public loses faith in .com from mobile devices and automatically goes to whatever.tel instead. That's a new claim for this thread." 1.) With ".com mobile support" you probably mean ".mobi". 2.) Indeed, .mobi is not very popular. And many companyies don't have a .mobi to compliment their existing website, for having a nice mobile experience of their website. As well as easy mobile access of their website. 3.) You are comparing .mobi with .tel. And there have been already many articles written, about comparing the two domain extensions.: Domains - Domain Names - Domainmonster.com Compare Mobi and Tel Domain Names with our comparison article Quote: "Simply put, .mobi should be thought of as the TLD for mobile content whereas .tel should be thought of as a (telephone) directory for your contact information." 4.) You are talking about mobile content, but .tel is not about mobile conent, respectively, website content: .tel is about (tele)communication. 5.) How would I use them together?: Contact pages on your .mobi website could link to your .tel. Or, what I personally think, is also good: .tel pages can link to a .mobi website of a company: that way, you can see, if the company .com website even has a .mobi website to compliment their existing website. Quote Domainmonster: "Equally, your .mobi website can be one of the items in your .tel data, allowing anyone visiting or using your .tel to be pointed in the direction of your .mobi website." - Otherwhise, one might hope to find a .mobi website of a company, and then has to find, that the company has no such mobile support of its existing website. 6.) Dot tel domains, are also designed to compliment a existing website. 7.) So, if one is interested in viewing a specific .com website, one could try to benefit from .mobi, as well as from .tel, as complementary domains of a .com domain. 8.) Conclusion: .tel is supporting .com, and is neither hindering it, nor a burden for it. Dot tel is a friend of .com. So, why bashing at it, and putting it down? 9.) I think, these extensions, are all good, and useful, in a different way, and that they are able to compliment each other, and work together. 10.) If you dont find a .com, straightaway, you might find its .tel, and then be able to find the .com at last. If you don't know about a .mobi website of a company, you might find the companies .tel page, and learn about its complementary .mobi website. Can you see, now, how useful .tel is, and that it is filling out gaps and niches, and providing services, that we hadn't had before? It is also using a other technology, and is therefore "google juice", for the search engines. I hope, this helps a bit, to see all the facts and constellations about .tel and .mobi and .com., and how they nicely can play together. . |
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| Senior Member | For instance, if you visit Dominos.com it will automatically redirect to mobile.dominos.com and everyone is happy. - The company didn't have to spend money branding a .mobi. - Customers simply visit the .com they already know. .mobi is nothing to developers here in 2009. Now imagine if dominos.tel was set up with a directory. We all know what those look like by now. Compare it to the "Find a Store" feature at mobile.dominos.com |
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| MediaWizard™ Team Leader | Yeah, thats a BS argument, I can show you 100s of sites that detect mobile devices. Sites can now detect your geo location and provide content tailored to that location, why would a mobile device offer a problem? Also, these arguments give me deja vu - goto the .mobi threads and you'll see what I mean. |
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| Account Closed | Hi, DubDubDubDot, You make my mounth watery, with mentioning dominos.com. But seriously: I understand your point. It is sure a brilliant idea, to redirect a .com to a .mobi, because most people or pizza lovers do not know anything about .mobi websites. But clients of Domino, would still be able to order their pizza faster, by going over domino.tel (when it will be properly filled with content) than going over domino.com, and looking for the ordering and contact details, provided, they already know, what they want ot order. Besides that, to look up a .tel, is cheaper than to look up a .mobi.: And your monthly internet access, and phone bills will be less high. Using .tel domains to get the information needed, is quick and economic, and saves time, money and you getting frustrated. But if you ask me, I will recommend: use all extensions: .com, .mobi, and .tel, but just in the best way, and that gives you the best ouput and benefit. If you are undecided, about which pizza to choose and order: than go to domino.com. And that is fine. There you will be able to see loads of appetizing pictures, etc., which will make your decision a lot easier. Next time, you want to order, you could just do a click and a call, and order, perhaps, via a .tel domain. But it is really a shame, that good .tel domain names are not properly populated, and filled with content, for a good navigation: See flowers.tel, or dominos.tel. (And there was once a dominer, who paied $200000 for flowers.mobi.: flowers.mobi could make more profit, if properly configured and filled with content. So it would make sense, to fill flowers. tel as well as dominos.tel with proper content. It is all to the owner of a domain, to take some time, and make some effort, to fill the domain with useful and interesting content, and to make more profit. And that is the same case, with .mobi or with .tel: The better you manage your domain, the more profit you can get through monetezising, etc.) Cheers |
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| Account Closed | If you keep your .tel domains, for a while, and sell in a year, they will be about three times as much worth. .tel is serious biz. Geo .tel's are best used, to create commercial directories, which would give you more profits, than if you sell them. Populate, populate, populate... Fill with good content... Google will do all the rest, because .tel domains are google juice. |
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| Account Closed | Advertising within .tel: Works now. Advertising within .tel: Works now. Examples: Hotele w Polsce tans.tel condos.tel adfly.tel 2tweet.tel joomlacms.tel How it works: Basically, the structure of your add looks like this: * Position/Location of your add (top, right, below) * Sort Sequence * Title (max. 255 characters for the title within the add) * Label (Is used as linktext for the linking, and will be used as last line within the add) * Link (Link leading to the adverted product) * Text Content Get your information here: Sources: 1.) Telnic just published a whitepaper for developers (PDF - 4 pages) with detailed info about advertising in .tel domains @ http://dev.telnic.org/docs/advertisements.pdf 2.) For full details, see: Chapters 4.3 and 5.5 and especially 5.6.1 (page 24) in the "Developers Guide" @ http://dev.telnic.org/docs/devguide.pdf . |
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| Senior Member | iv read it,dont understand it.mad stuff were do i put the txt
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| Account Closed | Dear Friend, Thank you, for your comment and question. It is about placing ads on the TelProxy. You can choose, where you would like to put your ads: top, right, below. Display Preference: 1 for top of the page 2 for right of the page 3 for foot of the page You want your ad to look like this: Plumber 24 Hour Fast Response Plumbers 10% Book Online Discount Today! Plumbers | Heating Engineers | Locksmiths | 24 hr Emergency Plumbers | ReactFast /Plumbers Again: You have do some coding (read manual), and code your ad content in this way: * Position, Location and Sort Sequence (IN TXT ".tad" "1" "1" "51") * Title ("Plumber") * Label (Is used as linktext for the linking, and will be used as last line within the add: "Plumbers | Plumbing Service | Fast Response Plumbers | Plumbers Available 24 hours, 365 days.") * Link (Link leading to the adverted product: "uri" "http://www.reactfast.co.uk" "uri" "=243423543&z=42342343") * Text Content ("desc" "24 Hour Fast Response Plumbers" "desc" "10% Book Online Discount Today !") And if you do it right, your ad will apear, with title, websit link, and text, at your favored position. Edit: Display Preference: 1 for top of the page 2 for right of the page 3 for foot of the page You want your ad to look like this: Plumber 24 Hour Fast Response Plumbers 10% Book Online Discount Today! Plumbers | Heating Engineers | Locksmiths | 24 hr Emergency Plumbers | ReactFast /Plumbers Layout coding, for advertisment on top of the page: IN TXT ".tad" "1" "1" "51" "Plumber" "www.ReactFast.co.uk/Plumbers" "uri" "http://www.reactfast.co.uk" "uri" "=243423543&z=42342343" "desc" "24 Hour Fast Response Plumbers" "desc" "10% Book Online Discount Today !" You have to frst store/add the advertisment records first, before you create the ad folder. Use owner parameter. Advertisment TXT records are created and modified via the "storeRecords SOAP command" Advertisment Record. <typ:storeRecordRequest domainName=" stead.te"> <typ:txt profiles="_all_" owner="_ad"> <typ:text>.tad</typ:text> <typ:text>1</typ:text> <typ:text>1</typ:text> <typ:text>100</typ:text> <typ:text>Title of the ad</typ:text> <typ:text>lable of the ad</typ:text> <typ:text>uri</typ:text> <typ:text>The new way to communicate</typ:text> <typ:text>desc</typ:text> <typ:text>sample description</typ:text> </typ:txt> </typ:storeRecordRequest> . Last edited by mactel; 09-18-2009 at 07:48 PM. |
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| TelShowcase.com | how do you put ads in subdirectories or all over not just homepage? ---------- Post added at 05:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:50 PM ---------- if someone makes a video tutorials for ads it will be helpfull because didn't get it even with guides.
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| Account Closed | You could ask the manager of Siteground, if he could be so kind and make one. In the mean time, you could look at the tutorials he made till now: .tel Domains Tutorial: Learn how to setup and manage your .tel domain |
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| TelShowcase.com | where to go to created and modified via the "storeRecords SOAP command" in the telhosting? I can't find it
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| Account Closed | . Advertisment TXT Records are created and modified via the "StoreRecords SOAP Command". This is how a Advertisment Record looks like: <typ:storeRecordRequest domainName="stead.tel"> <typ:txt profiles="_all_" owner="_ad"> <typ:text>.tad</typ:text> <typ:text>1</typ:text> <typ:text>1</typ:text> <typ:text>100</typ:text> <typ:text>Title of the ad</typ:text> <typ:text>lable of the ad</typ:text> <typ:text>uri</typ:text> <typ:text>http://www.telnic.org</typ:text> <typ:text>desc</typ:text> <typ:text>sample description</typ:text> </typ:txt> </typ:storeRecordRequest> . 1.) Ad the Advertisment Records (text records), by using the Owner Parameter (owner="_ad"): <typ:txt profiles="_all_" owner="_ad"> <typ:text>1</typ:text> <typ:text>1</typ:text> <typ:text>100</typ:text> <typ:text>Title of the ad</typ:text> <typ:text>lable of the ad</typ:text> <typ:text>uri</typ:text> <typ:text>http://www.telnic.org</typ:text> <typ:text>desc</typ:text> <typ:text>sample description</typ:text> 2.) Create a Sub-Domain_ad Folder (to store sub-type TXT records (defined by .tad)): <typ:text>.tad</typ:text> 3.) Store the Advertisment Records in the Sub-Domain_ad Folder: </typ:storeRecordRequest> 4.) Created and modifie the Advertisment Records via the "StoreRecords SOAP Command": <typ:text></typ:text> . Last edited by mactel; 09-18-2009 at 10:59 PM. |
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