[ecigs.net]

Originally Posted by MicroGuy

If you'll look back a page or two, you'll see that I posted this right after your post about weasel words, it was supposed to be a joke. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/561820-the-official-tel-discussion-thread.html BTW Alaska.tel ended @ $1050.00. Not bad!

Sorry. I am so used to people hammering away at new TLDs, I missed the joke entirely. My apologies.

[Ader]

Good news for people wanting to put ads on .tel sites;
Berita Indonesia Terkini: Telnic Announces New Advertising Record for .tel Domains

[saucey]

Originally Posted by Ader

Good news for people wanting to put ads on .tel sites; ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 Berita Indonesia Terkini: Telnic Announces New Advertising Record for .tel Domains

Excellent find Ader!!!

First paragraph..

"Telnic Limited (http://telnic.org), the registry operator
for the new communications-focused .tel top level domain (TLD), today
announced at Domain Convergence that it will shortly be delivering a new
solution for text-based advertising listings for the .tel domain, enabling
.tel domain owners to use more traditional and measurable domain monetization
techniques."

Wow!... This blows Dub's monetization drawbacks right out of the water.

Looks like .Tel can be monetized in a similar way to all other domains now!

Yippee!

[hasseily]

Originally Posted by saucey

Looks like .Tel can be monetized in a similar way to all other domains now!

Similar in the sense that you can put in sponsored links type ads that will display on the web proxy (and any other app that will want to support displaying those ads).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820
However the way you do it is somewhat different in that instead of inserting html/javascript into your web pages, you store a TXT record with the structured information of the ad: the title, description, url, etc...
It's up to the app (including the TelProxy) to display that information in logical manner for its intended audience.

All the details of the spec and the TelProxy implementation will be published next monday in the developer's guide as per the press release info.

[DubDubDubDot]

Originally Posted by saucey

Wow!... This blows Dub's monetization drawbacks right out of the water. Looks like .Tel can be monetized in a similar way to all other domains now! Yippee!

It's a step forward, but just a baby step (backwards?) that changes very little. I find your "Yippee!" over this to be somewhat frightening.

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"We have therefore enabled .tel owners to include clearly identifiable,
text-based sponsored advertising links. In this way, we maintain the clear
purpose of a .tel domain as a single point of contact whilst also meeting the
requirements for monetization across all internet-enabled devices."
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.tel profiles have been able to display affiliate text links. This new development just creates an "official" spot for text ads and labels them as advertisements. Just imagine developing a .com and printing something like "This part here is just an advertisement." next to all of your affiliate promos. Not cool, right? Well that's pretty much what .tel is doing.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820

This is understandable though, since .tel wasn't designed with monetization in mind.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820

---------- Post added at 03:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:29 PM ----------

Originally Posted by CDM

oh contraire mon frere, I just sold a .tel last week to a professional developer of iphone apps for $750. web development isnt the only thing going on these days. not a bad ROI too I might add

I'm not exactly surprised. As I have previously stated, .tel's intended use works best with [name].tel, [company].tel and [strongKeyword].tel. I'm sure the one you sold falls into that.

---------- Post added at 03:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:37 PM ----------

Originally Posted by plaggypig

I've received tons of inquiries on my portfolio of ~50 premium category names, and most of the offers that followed were in the $5-10k range. I haven't sold any

Most of your offers have been $5,000 to $10,000? I'm calling BS on this. If you are getting these offers, then other .tel owners are too. So where are these strong confirmed sales? Is everyone getting these offers sitting on their domains? I don't think so..... because these offers aren't being made.

[sdsinc]

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

.tel profiles have been able to display affiliate text links. This new development just creates an "official" spot for text ads and labels them as advertisements.

I agree that it's not a significant progress.
It's like giving vitamins to a dead body.
The real challenge for any online business is to build traffic and consumer loyalty. Good luck with those dull looking pages. .tel is supposed to allow you to cut to the chase and quickly get the information that you need (no clutter remember ?). Adding advertising is one step toward MFA and actually defeats the original purpose of .tel.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820
It's just one more telltale sign that reality is settling in, the business model doesn't work so telnic and their backers are experimenting tricks.

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

Most of your offers have been $5,000 to $10,000? I'm calling BS on this. If you are getting these offers, then other .tel owners are too. So where are these strong confirmed sales? Is everyone getting these offers sitting on their domains? I don't think so..... because these offers aren't being made.

Perhaps it's the people running the appraisal scam. They like to make insane offers on mediocre names.

[DN_Hunter]

Just noticed the following ending at Sedo in a few minutes (not mine)

P i c k u p s .tel

Currently at 1,000EUR (roughly $1,417 usd)

Will be nice to hear if/when the buyer follows through...

[plaggypig]

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

Most of your offers have been $5,000 to $10,000? I'm calling BS on this. If you are getting these offers, then other .tel owners are too. So where are these strong confirmed sales? Is everyone getting these offers sitting on their domains? I don't think so..... because these offers aren't being made.

Shoot first and ask questions later!

1) I said I hadn't sold any.
2) I own a high caliber of generic names. It's understandable that inquiries/offers would start at the top with the most desirable and work their way down the pile over time. People want the most bang for their buck.
3) The aftermarket hasn't been pumped full of hot air as with previous launches. It starts from a seedling.
4) How many names did you buy, and more importantly, how many names did you TRY and buy at landrush? Be honest, because I'm just trying to work out your resentment.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820
As I said, I've bought several (unreported), and I have my eye on a few more. I'm also privy to a few transactions between other parties that went unreported.

I recommend buying some DubDubDubDot - why don't you make inquiries to see what's available at what prices?

[MicroGuy]

Originally Posted by plaggypig

I've received tons of inquiries on my portfolio of ~50 premium category names, and most of the offers that followed were in the $5-10k range.

I think this is the main part he was questioning. You stated that you've had multiple offers in the $5,000.00 to $10,0000.00 range. You are either the David Copperfield of .TEL or a domaining Pinocchio.

[spline]

As a UI designer and AD I somewhat agree with the critics of 1999ish look of dot tel domains.
It doesn't look very sexy.
It need to look more sexy/fun and cool in order to become hot among mainstream.

However I think this will should easy for Telnic to solve.
Create a couple of different CSS styles, let a user set which style to load, and when the page load from a browser it would use that theme.

Hint: Don't use the same guy who designed the .tel logo.

[steveteva]

Originally Posted by drdomain

Some real estate agents for example are already using their .tels as phone numbers.

It's true, it's nice to see that the Real Estate industry is the first professional community to get involve in .tel market, I don't know why just them and not other like plumbers, electricians... I do own a portfolio of "real estate" .tel and will held a auction next month hope to see if they will bid or not, anyway I will quit domaining with or without earnings.

[Namez]

Originally Posted by microguy

i think this is the main part he was questioning. You stated that you've had multiple offers in the $5,000.00 to $10,0000.00 range. You are either the david copperfield of .tel or a domaining pinocchio.

lol!

[mwzd]

For those complaining about the .tel page being too simple - please look up minimalism. Less is more, if done right.

I like the .tel pages, with all their simplicity and uniformity. In a world full of opportunities (tlds) you can vent your creative juices on, .tel is more for the structure builder, not the developer.

When it launched, I got one for my family (surname.tel) and one for my company (company.tel) aside from a few generics.

For someone like me who's involved in multiple companies, each of which has multiple profit centers, .tel might just make it easier for people to understand my position a lot better.

While I don't believe .tel will solve all the webs problems like some here, I like it enough to use it for my own self and can see how the ones i do have can be used logically too - sf.usa.lyp.tel anyone?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820

Btw, got three more - dials.tel (since everyone is talking about calling via .tels), ditto.tel (dont ask ) and insures.tel (for lead generation ).

[Ader]

Simplicity is a big part of the appeal of .tel.
If I need contact information etc quickly, I don't want to have to find my way through a screen full of images and clutter.
And if I land on a site where stuff starts moving about the screen, with pop ups or other distractions, I'm likely to go elsewhere. I'm not that easily impressed by "amazing" design skills.

By the way, word is spreading about the new development in adverts for .tels being introduced by Telnic,
e.g. http://www.dnxpert.com/2009/08/13/te...-domain-names/

[Jawed]

Originally Posted by Ader

Simplicity is a big part of the appeal of .tel. If I need contact information etc quickly, I don't want to have to find my way through a screen full of images and clutter. And if I land on a site where stuff starts moving about the screen, with pop ups or other distractions, I'm likely to go elsewhere. I'm not that easily impressed by "amazing" design skills.

If they are the criteria, then Gopher was simpler.

[FreakySteve]

If you don't like the .tel WEB proxy page, it's very simple:

Use Glittel.com or write/buy your own proxy for viewing web (or other) versions of your .tel.

and/or

Write an app for your audience that shows the data how you want it shown.

If it sucks, either make it good or find something else.

Why is it so hard for people to grasp that the .tel web proxy is but one of potentially infinite ways of interacting with .tel domains?

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TelCamp Toronto 1 is tomorrow, I'll be there!

[FrenchTel]

Release v74 of the Community TelHosting software will be deployed to the live environment on Wednesday 19th August 2009 at 06:00 UTC.

This new version comes with interesting features:
- Privacy at all domain levels
- Free text keyword maximum length increased from 255 to 2,000 characters
- ...

Check out full details

[Shahid7]

Sounds like great news which i knew french so i could read more about it,
LongLive.tel

Shahid

Originally Posted by FrenchTel

Release v74 of the Community TelHosting software will be deployed to the live environment on Wednesday 19th August 2009 at 06:00 UTC. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 This new version comes with interesting features: - Privacy at all domain levels - Free text keyword maximum length increased from 255 to 2,000 characters - ... Check out full details

[FrenchTel]

An English version describing TelHosting v74 new features is available at the bottom of the post Shahid!

[Shahid7]

sorry, apologies. i guess i didn't go through it fully when i saw french in there
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820

just read them now

ENGLISH VERSION

Release v74 of the Community TelHosting software will be deployed to the live environment on Wednesday 19th August 2009 at 06:00 UTC.

This release sees the introduction of privacy at all domain levels (i.e., whereas it was only possible to have private data in example.tel it will now be possible to add to sublevel.example.tel, sub.sublevel.example.tel etc. - full details are available within the updated user guide) as well as the additional improvements listed below:

- Free text keyword maximum length increased from 255 to 2,000 characters

- Optimized CTH processing for large domains such that the text header loads in a timely fashion

- Optimization of the storeRecord SOAP command to avoid slow down with larger domains

- Move to / Copy to dialogs - Additional logic added to initially only show folders from the current domain. This increases performance for large portfolios

- Full front end support for “global” profiles

- Minor multi-lingual inconsistencies corrected

- Support for carriage returns within Keywords

- Disable phone number validation checking added to the SMS contact type

- Removal of front end warning when user’s browser language is not supported

everything sounds good

[Acroplex]

Originally Posted by spline

As a UI designer and AD I somewhat agree with the critics of 1999ish look of dot tel domains. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 It doesn't look very sexy. It need to look more sexy/fun and cool in order to become hot among mainstream. However I think this will should easy for Telnic to solve. Create a couple of different CSS styles, let a user set which style to load, and when the page load from a browser it would use that theme. Hint: Don't use the same guy who designed the .tel logo.

1999ish? You mean, 1994ish.

It's really a shame that TelNic cares more about brand promotion and data accumulation (all your info is stored at their database) than providing a DNS layer that would allow for web development.

PS Who is Johnny a.k.a. hepamatic? A .tel fanboi, I'm sure.

[steveteva]

I've read your blog post: Acro.net - Technology Rants & Raves by Acroplex® » Blog Archive » Still lost in .tel hell in the age of Development and I see that you really hate .tel

I agree with one point: the logo and not able to have different templates for page. But for other like dns to hosting it's not a great idea as all tlds work that way and that's what makes .tel unique is DNS only.

Originally Posted by Acroplex

1999ish? You mean, 1994ish. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 It's really a shame that TelNic cares more about brand promotion and data accumulation (all your info is stored at their database) than providing a DNS layer that would allow for web development. PS Who is Johnny a.k.a. hepamatic? A .tel fanboi, I'm sure.

[Acroplex]

No, I don't hate .tel.

I hate stupid people that are obsessed with something (fanbois) and cannot see reality outside their little distorted glass. In more than 5 (6?) blog posts of mine dedicated to this castrated TLD, I have analyzed its pitfalls and have offered suggestions. Heck, I even own .tel domains.

Now, if you want to promote domains that are virtual contact cards please don't use the term "development" alongside ".tel" - it's an insult to us web developers.

[hasseily]

Originally Posted by Acroplex

It's really a shame that TelNic cares more about brand promotion and data accumulation (all your info is stored at their database) than providing a DNS layer that would allow for web development.

This is flat out wrong. Registrars are free to use their own backend databases and telhosting, and very soon anyone will be able to become their own telhosting provider through a free accreditation process. We (Telnic) don't care about your info. We're not in any way, shape or form in the business of centralizing your contact info and monetizing it. Our business is to make sure that any .tel owner can use any telhosting provider and/or registrar and be guaranteed of the availability of the standard APIs.
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Originally Posted by Acroplex

Now, if you want to promote domains that are virtual contact cards please don't use the term "development" alongside ".tel" - it's an insult to us web developers.

I suggest you amend your comment to state: don't use the terms "web development" alongside ".tel".
That will be correct.

[saucey]

Originally Posted by Acroplex

No, I don't hate .tel. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 Heck, I even own .tel domains.

LOL! Give it a rest Acro! The only Tel you own is telsucks.tel

Don't try to make it sound like you are a supporter or open to the extension in any way.. You aren't, and that is fine.. but don't throw up the smoke and mirrors .... no honest... "I don't hate .tel... heck, I even own .tel domains." Ha ha ha.. Whatever. You have bashed this extension since launch and have done everything in your power to try to "put people off" of the idea of .Tel.