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Old 08-04-2009, 05:40 PM   #5201 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by bionichead View Post
Sarena.tel is owned by Patrick James, Inc. (PatrickJames.com), the men's clothing company. I think men are active everywhere, wouldn't you agree?
actually, i think that sarena.tel is owned by a patrickjames employee named sarena....
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actually, i think that sarena.tel is owned by a patrickjames employee named sarena....
Love the alternate ending to the .TEL commercial you just posted on your website. Thanks. And the guy who said it wouldn't turn his head in the comments, is either lying or ???. IMO.
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Originally Posted by Sarena View Post
the forum world seems to have mostly men and targeted towards mostly men on many fronts.

as far as programmers and designers there are a growing number of women, i think...
Online self employment just isn't the sort of thing that attracts many working woman types for some reason. I've known some exceptions here and there, but not many.
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I've always attributed it to a desire to work in a more social environment than sitting in a room alone at home all day. There is a much higher percentage of nerdy, anti-social men who have no problem at all staying at the computer for 12 hours straight.

There is definitely a revolving door of housewife types fooling around and exiting quickly though.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:57 AM   #5204 (permalink)
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I would love to know if some of you have the same situation as me regarding your .tel domains.

I have plans for nearly all of them in my portfolio, in regards of building a directory or for a personal use.

I have a few which I bought as an investment but not sure weather to try and lease them or just use them to point to my oher .tel sites.

The ones I am talking about are christian names but I do not want to sell them yet as I really think in a few years the will be a good investment and worth more money.

The only ones im on about are

hayley.tel
shelia.tel
delia.tel
chay.tel

All the others I have plans for.

Do you have any names that you bought as an investment and if so what are your plans for them in the immediate future ?
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:18 AM   #5205 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post
Where does it say in that article that a phone company is making .tel domains an alternative to dialing phone numbers?

All I'm seeing is that BT, like the previous MySpace hype, is going to market .tel's to their customers.

In other words, someone new is promoting/selling .tel domains. That's fine and all (although not even GoDaddy sells them), but we need to see an expansion of what .tel is good for before the domains mean something.

The interesting point here is why GoDaddy doesn't sell .tel domains?
Couldn't it be because their profit comes from Hosting solutions more than from domain names sales and that .tel domains don't require any hosting?

Just asking ...

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Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post
Outside of this thread, arguments for .tel need to have a bit more substance than "Just a bit short-sighted maybe?" That is probably why he snapped back at you.
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Those kind of comments and especially inspirational sayings are a smash hit in this thread, but don't fly with people who actually work online.
It is not easy to develop a long blurb in 140 characters, so my 1st post clearly was an invitation to an open dialog (that's why I ended it with a ";-)").
And I have been working in the IT/Internet business for 26 years now, so you could tell that I "actually" work online too, but that does not prevent me from trying not to get my head further up my a** ...
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Originally Posted by www.DONT.net View Post
I see quite a handful women domainers in here & around other reputable domain forums, so I dont know why do you still feel "it is a male dominated skill"..

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The keyword here is "handful." There are very few female domainers.

Sometimes I just shake my head at the sexism and male chauvinism that populates domaining. For that reason alone, I do not attend domain conferences. Playboy bunnies. Body painting. Exploitation of young women. Sales of websites on the edge of child porn.

Quite a bitter pill for the few female domainers who hang in there.

Now, about .tel: the BT news is, indeed, good news.

However, last night on America's Got Talent, I noticed that Fremantle Media is still using clunky telephone numbers for call-in voting. In fact, the emcee (whose name escapes me) had to remind the audience that they would be calling an 866 number (and not an 800 number). A simple .tel contact could have been a one-stop point of contact (AmericasGotTalent or AGT dot tel) with the three options on the site: call-in, online, and sms voting. As it turned out, AGT had to flash the three different options on screen. IMHO, it was very confusing. Each contestant (12 total) had a different sms number and phone number. The website for online voting was simply NBC [dot] com.

.Tel would have been perfect for this fast-paced show; we are fast arriving at a time when many cell phones are now connected through the internet, so a .tel url would be perfect.

While I appreciate the BT news and embrace it, .tel will truly arrive when Verizon, Sprint, and AT & T develop a deal with Telnic to bundle .tel in their services.
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Online self employment just isn't the sort of thing that attracts many working woman types for some reason. I've known some exceptions here and there, but not many.

I've always attributed it to a desire to work in a more social environment than sitting in a room alone at home all day. There is a much higher percentage of nerdy, anti-social men who have no problem at all staying at the computer for 12 hours straight.
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There is definitely a revolving door of housewife types fooling around and exiting quickly though.

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This "housewife type" has been around domaining for over two years.

This "housewife type" also has an outside job and has just won a major award in her primary field.

So, Mr Dub a Dub, please don't stereotype about women and their role in domaining. It makes you look like a throwback to the Neanderthal era.

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The keyword here is "handful." There are very few female domainers.

Sometimes I just shake my head at the sexism and male chauvinism that populates domaining. For that reason alone, I do not attend domain conferences. Playboy bunnies. Body painting. Exploitation of young women. Sales of websites on the edge of child porn.

Quite a bitter pill for the few female domainers who hang in there.

It's part of the business, and not just domaining but every other out there.. you see, so sexes cant be blamed for anything!!
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Originally Posted by Ms Domainer View Post
A simple .tel contact could have been a one-stop point of contact
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The website for online voting was simply NBC [dot] com.
There is a reason why they sent people to NBC.com and not to a dedicated voting URL. It's to sell them on other programming by force. This is similar to how grocery stores space the essential items out so that you buy other things you didn't go in for.
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In the event that they wanted to use a voting URL, agt.nbc.com would function the same as agt.tel. Plus there is the option to sell sponsor ad spots.

There is exactly a 0% chance that one of these shows will send voters to a .tel unless .tel pays them.
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There is exactly a 0% chance that one of these shows will send voters to a .tel unless .tel pays them.
True. Unfortunately this is only obvious to those who are not mesmerized and living in .TEL fantasy land. If only there was some way to stage a .TEL intervention before it's too late.
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People! Look at the template that loads when you visit a .TEL 'website'. Do you not see a resemblance to a poorly designed 1990's under-construction page? These huge media companies like NBC don't want to ruin their reputation by sending viewers to Cheeseland USA™.

The only hope for this extension (and it will still be a longshot) is for the DNS Dictators at Teleworld to give advanced users control of the "A" records. IMHO.
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Originally Posted by MicroGuy View Post
The only hope for this extension (and it will still be a longshot) is for the DNS Dictators at Teleworld to give advanced users control of the "A" records. IMHO.
i hope that never happens.
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Originally Posted by MicroGuy View Post
True. Unfortunately this is only obvious to those who are not mesmerized and living in .TEL fantasy land. If only there was some way to stage a .TEL intervention before it's too late.
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People! Look at the template that loads when you visit a .TEL 'website'. Do you not see a resemblance to a poorly designed 1990's under-construction page? These huge media companies like NBC don't want to ruin their reputation by sending viewers to Cheeseland USA.

The only hope for this extension (and it will still be a longshot) is for the DNS Dictators at Teleworld to give advanced users control of the "A" records. IMHO.
Telsters has a little Q&A for you. If that doesn't answer your questions then I don't know what will, but the answer is simple; focus your energy on the hundreds of other TLDs that are at your disposal for building websites
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Originally Posted by plaggypig View Post
Telsters has a little Q&A for you. If that doesn't answer your questions then I don't know what will, but the answer is simple; focus your energy on the hundreds of other TLDs that are at your disposal for building websites
Thanks for that plaggypig it is a good read and very true.
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If I have said it once I have said it a hundreds times, there are a handful of people on this thread that are like parrots and keep repeating the same old negative comments about the .tel, if it was a different comment occasionally even that would be fine, but its not, and it's very boring.

They must have have some interest in the .tel to keep posting, otherwise they would forget it and get on with something else that they do like which is more constructive.

3 words for all you guys with the same old comments,

boring boring boring
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Hi all,

Will anyone build an Iphone phone Call application that could handle .tel ?

Ex : instead of typing a number, i type in "JohnSmith.tel" , then an phone call is made to the default Phone NAPTR DNS entry of JohnSmith.tel.

I guess that could be easy to make for an Iphone developper.
I would love that app and can not understand why it does not exist already...

When people will see you just can "call" a .tel, il will become a must have

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I wonder how many .tel reg until now.
210,000?
250,000?
290,000?
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Exciting news.

The following press release was posted in the .mobi section of NP, but I'm unable to cite the original release (not on cj.com, and google searches only yield another forum post), so for the time being this quote will have to suffice:

Originally Posted by CommissionJunction
Commission Junction is excited to introduce the new CJ PayPerCall. Pay-per-call represents a great new opportunity for publishers to earn even more with CJ. In addition to more than a dozen advertisers, like ADT and ServiceMagic, who have launched pay-per-call campaigns for you to promote, we anticipate a very large financial services advertiser launching soon just for pay-per-call. So, we want to make sure youre up to speed on pay-per-call so you can be among the first in the affiliate marketing industry to take advantage of this opportunity.

Why should you be as excited as we are about CJs new pay-per-call platform? Thats easy. Big commissions for doing not much more than youre already doing today. Pay-per-call is here to stay, and most of our 4-barand 5-bar advertisers are already actively paying attractive commissions for calls as well as online transactions. In fact, the average per-call commission is over $10, and some advertisers pay up to $100 per call. Pay-per-call doesnt take the place of your online CPA campaigns with these large advertisers. Pay-per-call campaigns are IN ADDITION TO existing CPA campaigns. And our new platform makes it surprisingly easy for publishers to start generating these higher per-call commissions.

To get you up to speed and help you get started, we will be hosting a LIVE DEMO to get all of your questions answered and provide you with the materials you need to start driving high-commission calls for top-brand advertisers.
Upto $100 per call for some advertisers.. and you thought .tel directories couldn't be monetised? lmfao
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boring boring boring
Here here.

And thank you plaggypig for that well written Q&A.

I just found out about a way you can hide your email from spammers without using the privacy features on your .tel. It's a captcha and is easy to use (even for a non technical user like me)
Here's the link; reCAPTCHA Mailhide: Free Spam Protection You just insert a given url as a web page in your contacts (e.g. http://email-homesales.homesales.tel/ )
Probably some of you are using it already, but anyway I think it's worth passing on.
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Originally Posted by liming View Post
I wonder how many .tel reg until now.
210,000?
250,000?
290,000?
up? can't believe
To be expected?

From Summary of Application of Telnic Limited:
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Projected Growth Rate. The projected growth rate is about one million names per year for the first few years.
From Status Report on the stld Application Process (19 March 2004):
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Telnic estimates would be 5 million by the end of year 5.
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To be expected?

Projected Growth Rate. The projected growth rate is about one million names per year for the first few years.

Telnic estimates would be 5 million by the end of year 5.
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For all the true .TEL believers, you should mortgage the house and make sure not to let ALASKA.TEL (not mine) slip away. It's currently at Sedo auction with a high bid of only $170. I'm tempted to put a bid or two in myself at the price. IMO.
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Originally Posted by plaggypig View Post
Exciting news.

The following press release was posted in the .mobi section of NP, but I'm unable to cite the original release (not on cj.com, and google searches only yield another forum post), so for the time being this quote will have to suffice:

Upto $100 per call for some advertisers.. and you thought .tel directories couldn't be monetised? lmfao
Hi Andy!

I noticed that a couple of months ago: Commission Junction PayPerCall is powered by the new RingRevenue platform.
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Great monetization potential for .tel indeed!

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Upto $100 per call for some advertisers.. and you thought .tel directories couldn't be monetised? lmfao
Of course they can be monetized, but the backbone of the naysayer arguments have always been how much more difficult it is on .tel compared to .com. Pay per call affiliate programs do not change that.
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From the affiliate webmaster sales side, the only thing different is that you are sending referrals though a phone number rather than a URL. You still have to generate traffic to your promo sites and you still have to sell that traffic on the product. Once again, good luck doing that from a .tel profile when your competition is doing it on a .com using something more than plain text on a white background.

I know how it goes though.... "But .tel is all we need to accomplish what we want to do!" Yeah right. More like .tel is all you can figure out because you refuse to learn how to develop properly. .tel is all you've got. At least the people riding on .tel becoming a phone number alternative have something to hope for. The .tel "developers" have nothing and don't seem to realize it.
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Hi Andy!

I noticed that a couple of months ago: Commission Junction PayPerCall is powered by the new RingRevenue platform.

Great monetization potential for .tel indeed!

Enjoy your week-end,
Thanks for the heads up. I found an interesting article about RingRevenue over at venturebeat.
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Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post
More like .tel is all you can figure out because you refuse to learn how to develop properly. .tel is all you've got. At least the people riding on .tel becoming a phone number alternative have something to hope for. The .tel "developers" have nothing and don't seem to realize it.
Time to take the blinkers off!

.tel is not about Web, and therefore not about HTML or Flash or whatever graphic design tool. It is not even about PCs ...

It is about:
- mobile Internet
- structured databases
- theory of graphs
- dynamic navigational trees
- telecommunications
- complex directories
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And this IS development. Just development that requires different (I first intended to write higher, but don't want to offend anyone) skills than pissing lines of HTML code ...
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For all the true .TEL believers, you should mortgage the house and make sure not to let ALASKA.TEL (not mine) slip away. It's currently at Sedo auction with a high bid of only $170. I'm tempted to put a bid or two in myself at the price. IMO.
The price is now at $510 (USD) with 24 bids from 8 bidders. There are three days left.
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