[saucey]

Outstanding site! Very impressive! Love how people can add their own content! Awesome!

Two thumbs up!

Saucey

Originally Posted by kprobe

yorkregion.tel has been created as a model for additional regional directories in my area. Besides being a directory for essential contact information within a specific community, this site continues to promote development efforts to showcase interactive tel domains, encouraging residents to participate through self-entry of content. With the primary focus for a community .tel being rapid access to important, centralized contact info, the secondary purpose of this site is to allow residents to list all kinds of community-related events and notifications like garage sales, free items, club meetings, charity events, news, lost and found, etc. When adding content into various folders, residents date any time-sensitive events, such that out-of-date entries are automatically deleted. The site will soon support a limited number of advertisement units, allowing for monetization of a community directory. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/561820-the-official-tel-discussion-thread.html If anyone has the time, I'd appreciate some critical feedback before I introduce this site to my community. Thanks Mark

[MicroGuy]

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

The only thing it is ideal for is a central point of contact for an individual or business, it's intended use. Any use outside of that is a hack, and thus inferior to legit development on limitless TLD's. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 However there are a ton of people who want to run a website, but don't know how to. Then .tel came along and a few of them saw an opening to at least get something online outside of a simple blog. That is what drives .tel support among a handful of domainers. Developers laugh at .tel and the general public is showing very little interest. The fact is, domainers are keeping .tel afloat just like any other crappy TLD. These directory ideas are just plain stupid. .com developers don't even make directories anymore. They are so 1999, and now noob "developers" are going to bring directories back using .tel? Give me a break.

Sad but true.

[RUPERT]

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[Acroplex]

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

The only thing it is ideal for is a central point of contact for an individual or business, it's intended use. Any use outside of that is a hack, and thus inferior to legit development on limitless TLD's. However there are a ton of people who want to run a website, but don't know how to. Then .tel came along and a few of them saw an opening to at least get something online outside of a simple blog. That is what drives .tel support among a handful of domainers. Developers laugh at .tel and the general public is showing very little interest. The fact is, domainers are keeping .tel afloat just like any other crappy TLD. These directory ideas are just plain stupid. .com developers don't even make directories anymore. They are so 1999, and now noob "developers" are going to bring directories back using .tel? Give me a break.

Give the guy a cigar! And make this post a sticky.

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Originally Posted by Samit

Acro, I think the idea for .tel is not to have dns as other domains do, would kind of defeat the purpose imo. It works fine as it is, ranks well out of the box and is ideal for directory type sites w/ 3k subdomains. More than enough for even a global level directory.

Don't get me started with "ranking".
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As an experiment, I bought the last name of my CPA in .tel, as a gift. I fully edited the info, created sub-folders, added keyword-rich info etc. Three months later, the domain is #27 in Google whereas the .net that it was supposed to substitute is #1

[virtualwords]

Hi All

Some really mixed comments going on here today.

For some directories it may suck as you suggest but if you get it right you can make a very successful directory that works unlike others.

I am in the process of creating ukcabs.tel and have already spoken with a number of taxi/cab firms that are very excited about the idea of having there number at a touch of a button.
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Firms pay lots of money every year just to belisted in the yellow pages including my friends who spent thousands of pounds last year.

Once the ukcabs.tel directory is fully launched, all anyone in the uk will have to remember is ukcabs.tel rather than loads of numbers stored in there phone.

We have researched the country and made sure that when it is fully complete, there will be a taxi firm within a few mile radius.

We have also built a section so taxi/cab businesses can can add thereselves to the directory and also add areas if needed to.

It will make booking a taxi a 2 minute job.

I have loads of support behind this site and with the reaction we are getting already im sure it will not be to long before you hear lots more about it. We also have a nice budget to spend on marketing the idea not just for bsuinesses but for the general public on launch date.

For any of you that hate the idea of a .tel directory or think they will not work, i surely hope to prove you all wrong.

Regards

Gav

[mwzd]

Originally Posted by Acroplex

Don't get me started with "ranking". As an experiment, I bought the last name of my CPA in .tel, as a gift. I fully edited the info, created sub-folders, added keyword-rich info etc. Three months later, the domain is #27 in Google whereas the .net that it was supposed to substitute is #1

Well, how old is the .net? How old is the .tel?
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If i was able to take a brand new one page site and get it into the first 3 pages at goog, i'm happy tbh.

People can laugh all they want about directories and how they are so 1999, don't forget, even the mighty goog is based on dmoz, don't underestimate directories, specially at a niche level. The bigger game is already played out with the consolidations and mergers, the average web user has a chance for a toe hold with .tel, or maybe not, but whats the harm in trying? If you can monetize anything, it works for you, people still pay good money for so called dead sea sand

[sdsinc]

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

These directory ideas are just plain stupid. .com developers don't even make directories anymore. They are so 1999, and now noob "developers" are going to bring directories back using .tel? Give me a break.

It's just that directories are not so great for monetization purposes... and the web is saturated with them

Originally Posted by Acroplex

Give the guy a cigar! And make this post a sticky.

You just revived a topic that is dying, like the .tel TLD
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Reality has had plenty of time to settle in.

[WordWalker]

PREDICTION:

A major mobile phone company will bundle .tel domains as an alternative to a traditional ten digit phone number.

Why?

1. Exclusive promotions create marketing advantage. Increases revenues.

2. Porting of numbers and related tasks rendered obsolete. Saves lots of money.

3. It's inevitable.

Naysayer comment bashing starts now!

[Ms Domainer]

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Thanks to a spammer, I was able to get WhereTel.com (for reg fee) to go with Where.tel.

I thought it was worth popping for.



NOTE: One reason I don't post here much anymore:

Both supporters and naysayers don't really have much to add these days. .Tel will either succeed or not succeed; the ball is now in Telnic's court, no matter what we (supporters) do.

My advice to Telnic: get cell companies on board, and .tel will be a blockbuster; if not, it will likely be a dud.


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[DubDubDubDot]

Originally Posted by virtualwords

I am in the process of creating ukcabs.tel and have already spoken with a number of taxi/cab firms that are very excited about the idea of having there number at a touch of a button. Firms pay lots of money every year just to belisted in the yellow pages including my friends who spent thousands of pounds last year. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 Once the ukcabs.tel directory is fully launched, all anyone in the uk will have to remember is ukcabs.tel rather than loads of numbers stored in there phone.

Businesses pay a lot of money for the yellow pages because phone books are distributed for free. If you are going to charge cab companies for placements, it will be your job to generate traffic into your directory.... and I'm guessing there is a 99% chance that you haven't figured out how you are going to do this yet.

[jacpar]

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

Businesses pay a lot of money for the yellow pages because phone books are distributed for free. If you are going to charge cab companies for placements, it will be your job to generate traffic into your directory.... and I'm guessing there is a 99% chance that you haven't figured out how you are going to do this yet.

Don't ask money, make it free, unless they ask to be at top of the first page.

[gkjunior]

Its exciting to check in on the forums once and a while to see some new posts that are, interesting, upbeat, potential new uses, new ideas, forward thinking outside the box convesations and all that other good vibe cool new stuff. That combined with some back and forth posts from both sides of the isle should help all looking to further enrich our lives and the lives of others.

Right ?

Nah... I was just kidding the reason I check in on the forums is to read posts from the likes of Acroplex and DubDubDubDot, so I and many many Domainers that stuck their neck out and took a chance on a new TLD with UNKNOWN potential can be reminded by those 2 how smart they are and how stupid everyone else is.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820

As a matter of fact theese 2 guys are so right that I ask that they post their phone numbers here or they can pm me with them and I will call them so they can personaly tell me what a idiot I am. Then I can come back here and post that they are right and all of you are idiots.

Then Acro and Dub will be happy that the message is out and finally every one got it and they will NEVER HAVE TO POST again
EVER.

Then I wont have to ever come back to this forum and waste my time with ANY TLD and just buy some available .coms

Any predictions? Anyone?

[JagG]

Originally Posted by gkjunior

Its exciting to check in on the forums once and a while to see some new posts that are, interesting, upbeat, potential new uses, new ideas, forward thinking outside the box convesations and all that other good vibe cool new stuff. That combined with some back and forth posts from both sides of the isle should help all looking to further enrich our lives and the lives of others. Right ? Nah... I was just kidding the reason I check in on the forums is to read posts from the likes of Acroplex and DubDubDubDot, so I and many many Domainers that stuck their neck out and took a chance on a new TLD with UNKNOWN potential can be reminded by those 2 how smart they are and how stupid everyone else is. As a matter of fact theese 2 guys are so right that I ask that they post their phone numbers here or they can pm me with them and I will call them so they can personaly tell me what a idiot I am. Then I can come back here and post that they are right and all of you are idiots. Then Acro and Dub will be happy that the message is out and finally every one got it and they will NEVER HAVE TO POST again EVER. Then I wont have to ever come back to this forum and waste my time with ANY TLD and just buy some available .coms ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 Any predictions? Anyone?

Don't give up!!

I once read a post from DUB that made me think I gonna prove this guy wrong, I'm still working on the .tel that I had in mind and will be posting it here with the quote from DUB.

I haven't made my money back form my .tels, nor have I made a .tel work out in a way were I'm getting 1000s of emails a day asking to advertise on my site. But one thing a .tel has done for me...... and that is traffic!!! so the least I have done is save money on advertising.

Take it easy

Jag

P.S Dub don't take this post in the wrong way, if anything when I made my 1st million on the .tel I fly out to you and buy you a drink.

[jamie356]

Originally Posted by gkjunior

Its exciting to check in on the forums once and a while to see some new posts that are, interesting, upbeat, potential new uses, new ideas, forward thinking outside the box convesations and all that other good vibe cool new stuff. That combined with some back and forth posts from both sides of the isle should help all looking to further enrich our lives and the lives of others. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 Right ? Nah... I was just kidding the reason I check in on the forums is to read posts from the likes of Acroplex and DubDubDubDot, so I and many many Domainers that stuck their neck out and took a chance on a new TLD with UNKNOWN potential can be reminded by those 2 how smart they are and how stupid everyone else is. As a matter of fact theese 2 guys are so right that I ask that they post their phone numbers here or they can pm me with them and I will call them so they can personaly tell me what a idiot I am. Then I can come back here and post that they are right and all of you are idiots. Then Acro and Dub will be happy that the message is out and finally every one got it and they will NEVER HAVE TO POST again EVER. Then I wont have to ever come back to this forum and waste my time with ANY TLD and just buy some available .coms Any predictions? Anyone?

... I don't worry about it because the money is not coming out of their pockets. I do what I want with my money when I want and where I want. Don't need someone to look over my shoulder each time I buy a .tel or any TLD. So relax, kick back and enjoy the ride.

Plus you joined in 2007 and only 10 posts so missing you wouldn't be that hard to do. lol j/k

[namenut]

Originally Posted by Acroplex

Developing a .tel means waiting on TelNic to realize that their business model failed. Unless you can point the DNS to hosted content, there is no "development".

This is key. If they continue to stay the course, in this regard, you may be correct. The current static design is not going to cut it. This has to change if the extension is to grow.
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NN

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

Businesses pay a lot of money for the yellow pages because phone books are distributed for free. If you are going to charge cab companies for placements, it will be your job to generate traffic into your directory.... and I'm guessing there is a 99% chance that you haven't figured out how you are going to do this yet.

A phone book is a great source and while at home or in an office one can enjoy the luxury of the descriptive ads. But As you may have noticed .... there are not many phone booths around any more. No phone books dangling in a tattered state form an often dirty little mended chain or the ever popular mechanical arm that drops and swings at the same time placing the book at the worst position thinkable .... I digress... back to my point. Being able to pull up a "lite site" on my mobi device and accessing information or numbers then the tel site is "ideal" for In the car, the restroom, an elevator, a restraint, the park, on the boat, in the mountains, fishing, hiking, biking, skating, during sex for Chinese food .... would hate to get a paper cut at the wrong time and in the wrong place.

The digi Biz Card ....

Live and Let Live
NN

[steveteva]

Everybody is talking about directory for .tel but they forgot that .tel is also a new way to communicate as contact information (see the Ben.tel video)
Of course some can be applied for a directory but most don't and will be used as contact infos.

[WordWalker]

Originally Posted by steveteva

Everybody is talking about directory for .tel but they forgot that .tel is also a new way to communicate as contact information (see the Ben.tel video)

Which is exactly why I reg'd these domains during Landrush:
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(these will be developed by my company - not flipped)


DirectoryAssistance.tel
Tow.tel
Towing.tel
RoadsideAssistance.tel
CheckCashing.tel
CashAdvance.tel
PaydayLoan.tel
PaydayLoans.tel
Electrical.tel
Heating.tel
Plumbing.tel
Roofing.tel
Giftbasket.tel
FlowerDelivery.tel
Candy.tel
MoneyOrder.tel
MoneyOrders.tel
Webmaster.tel
Tattoo.tel
TalkRadio.tel
Romance.tel
Bonds.tel
Depression.tel
OCD.tel
UFO.tel
LMAO.tel
WTF.tel
Spy.tel

Many of these would be a good match for a business model similar to 1-800-DENTIST. Others would fit well into a pay per call scenario. All were chosen based on utilizing voice communication - not for the potential of creating an online text directory. Certainly that's an option, but pure mobile social voice networking will play a major role in the future of telecommunications and the internet.

[DubDubDubDot]

Originally Posted by jacpar

Don't ask money, make it free, unless they ask to be at top of the first page.

If that top listing is the site's only source of income, it's going to take a lot of traffic to justify the price necessary to make running the site worthwhile. Getting that kind of traffic into a .tel is going to be extremely difficult unless it's though paid advertising.

[saucey]

Just reg'd...

MarketNews.tel

Waddaya think?l

[virtualwords]

Originally Posted by jacpar

Don't ask money, make it free, unless they ask to be at top of the first page.

With the amount of time and effort that I am going to be putting into the site, advertising,promotions and also paying people to help with marketing calls ect, I cannot not afford to give free listings away.

I have discounted price which will be charged for all taxi/cab companies which come on board before launch date, and a standard charge price for others that join after launch date.

I think the price to be added into the directory will be fine and am looking forward to the challenge.

Regards

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820
Gav

[MicroGuy]

Originally Posted by saucey

Just reg'd... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 MarketNews.tel Waddaya think?l

What is the intended use? How do you provide updated market news via a static address book?

[JoshuaPz]

I think .TEL is a TLD that's slightly past its time, which makes sense considering the TLD was pending approval for 10 years. The notion of being able to dial folks using methods easier to remember than phone number (e.g. e-mail addresses, even IP addresses) spurred a mini VoIP revolution around the mid/lately-90s, and .TEL would likely have caught sparks if it were approved within a year or two following its introduction. Sure, it would have been great to plug johnsmith.tel into a web browser knowing it would quickly pull up John's contact information arond '97-'98, but Google's powerful search capabilities (e.g. "John Smith" + "contact information") and innovations in speed-dialing have largely obviated the need for these shorthands.

[DubDubDubDot]

Originally Posted by virtualwords

With the amount of time and effort that I am going to be putting into the site, advertising,promotions and also paying people to help with marketing calls ect, I cannot not afford to give free listings away. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 I have discounted price which will be charged for all taxi/cab companies which come on board before launch date, and a standard charge price for others that join after launch date. I think the price to be added into the directory will be fine and am looking forward to the challenge. Regards Gav

So in other words...

"Pay me $x to be listed in my cab directory that isn't even launched yet, but it will be popular and eventually send you customers. I promise!"

Sorry for being skeptical, but this is something that is going to require a significant offline advertising budget for the general cab calling public to see it. Which is why I'm puzzled as to why you wouldn't spend just a small percentage of that on having a common extension developed properly. So you must believe there are big upsides doing this project from a .tel rather than .com or .co.uk. What are they?

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Originally Posted by JoshuaPz

I think .TEL is a TLD that's slightly past its time, which makes sense considering the TLD was pending approval for 10 years. The notion of being able to dial folks using methods easier to remember than phone number (e.g. e-mail addresses, even IP addresses) spurred a mini VoIP revolution around the mid/lately-90s, and .TEL would likely have caught sparks if it were approved within a year or two following its introduction. Sure, it would have been great to plug johnsmith.tel into a web browser knowing it would quickly pull up John's contact information arond '97-'98, but Google's powerful search capabilities (e.g. "John Smith" + "contact information") and innovations in speed-dialing have largely obviated the need for these shorthands.

Quoted for truth.
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Everything about .tel gives me flashbacks to the 90's.

If it had been launched back then, the selling points would have been much stronger. Storing the records in the DNS doesn't mean much here in 2009, but that would have been just huge back then. Web hosting was very expensive and pretty much nobody knew how to set up their own site besides on Geocities.

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For those of you planning on running a serious online business from a .tel profile, do any of you worry about .tel one day placing header and footer ads on the pages like most of the free hosting companies do?

[virtualwords]

[QUOTE=DubDubDubDot;3519235]So in other words...

"Pay me $x to be listed in my cab directory that isn't even launched yet, but it will be popular and eventually send you customers. I promise!"

Sorry for being skeptical, but this is something that is going to require a significant offline advertising budget for the general cab calling public to see it. Which is why I'm puzzled as to why you wouldn't spend just a small percentage of that on having a common extension developed properly. So you must believe there are big upsides doing this project from a .tel rather than .com or .co.uk. What are they?[COLOR="Silver"]

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I like the .tel extension because it easy to use, maintain, update and most of it does excactly what is needed I believe for this particular project.

If I want to book a cab it would be lovely to have the luxury to get my phone clcik on ukcabs.tel, select my location and have different taxi/cab firms at the touch of a button to hand.

I have been stranded many of times when out with friends and it has been a nightmare trying to find a taxi,this will solve the problem and believe it or not I already have lots of interest from different companies that are very keen to be added to the directory.

If I wanted to make a really snazzy directory with loads of features and other extra uses I would use a .com or .co.uk but when im on a night out or of need for a taxi all I want to do is get one booked as simple as possible and I believe the .tel extension for this is just perfect.

What I find most interesting in this thread is the people that are so negative keep posting, but if I was not particular interested in a certain topic or really hated a certain extension I would not be bothered checking back everyday to see what was happening.
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I quite like all the different views and interest the .tel is getting as I really beleive it will only make it even more popular.

Thanks for your thoughts and comments

Regards

Gav

[steveteva]

if it was launch in 90's it won't be as successful as today simply because reg will cost like 45 or more dollar and as mobile phones like iPhone Rims and other web browerable with 3g and else werent available to public in the 90's