[maxeaus]

Well well well, this appears the BIGGEST backflip ive ever seen from Google. It would now seem that a crushed shareprice and a future microsoft/Yahoo threat to search has Google worried BIG TIME.

The evil domain owners with no content, now are being courted. I expect Google will want to add Youtube adsense to the mix aswell, as the revenue from Youtube has been hard to come by.

Very surprising move to say the least.

[advaita]

Thanks for that Spade - strangely enough i kind of like the 'boring' page, it looks kind of official. On another tack, why do people look for 'eagle talon' does it have a hidden meaning I know nothing about ?

[johname]

Originally Posted by advaita

Thanks for that Spade - strangely enough i kind of like the 'boring' page, it looks kind of official. On another tack, why do people look for 'eagle talon' does it have a hidden meaning I know nothing about ?

type it in google and you instantly see it is a car lol
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/parking-and-traffic-monetization/541579-adsense-for-domains-official-thread.html

i sould add that its also an eagle claw

[maxeaus]

Originally Posted by l2ride55

Bet the house on it. They now have "responsibilities" to their shareholders being they're publicly traded. It's not some "crazy" owners idea or plan (when you’re privately held) to take over the world - it's expected when you're publicly traded. It the oldest trick in the book, just like the Yahoo deal. Make a "tentative" deal, get in, take a look around, measure up everyone and everything, find their strengths and weaknesses – go home and put your internal plan together, then walk away and do it better until everyone’s gone, then force your will upon folks and nobody can stop it. Sorry to say, it's in the essence of their being, it has to be that way. “Usually", the only one that can stop those runaway trains when they reach critical mass - is the Government (yep, that two party "checks and balances" Government). Wonder if the Fed would extend a few Billion to Yahoo too after Google runs everyone into the ground (domainers included)? Just like the automakers (and a whole list of others ie. insurance, mortgage, banks, etc.) – the Fed always does too little too late to prevent these types of monopolies. Difference is here nobody cares about a few domainers or parking companies (we should be so unlucky). And BTW, it’s always our ass (money) that has to pay for the damage that was created by their corporate greed after the walls crumble and Big Brother finally does come to the rescue. I'm all for Google (and anybody for that matter) if they want to enter the domain parking arena - fairly. But they set up all these parking companies to fail by deindexing name servers a few months ago, stopping arbitrage, saying their advertisers don't want "parked pages", pages that didn't have content, weren't relevant, duplicate content, etc. and what are they doing now? They're going to twist the handle on the vise 'till heads pop.... Didn't I just read on their Blog they now say their advertisers want this type of traffic? Huh, imagine that. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541579 And you know what's even worse than how they're doing it? For year’s companies like Parked, Namedrive, Whypark, Trafficz, Bodis (just a few mentioned), etc. fought for us domainers and fought for domain industry leverage. Instead of us using different search engines, instead of us advertising on other platforms, instead of us standing by and supporting the people that stood by us - nope, we're so short minded, we'll sling our A Records and DNS to Google and we'll help the giant bury the very people that were there fighting for us while the giant was imposing its will just a few short months ago. I guess for some they may think that if ya' can't beat'm, join'm. For me, "desertion" isn't in the cards. I'm not drinking the Kool Aid no matter how good it looks, or how good it tastes - its still poison. L2

This explains why CERTAIN well known parking companies have been constantly deindexed , reindexed, and a host of other VERY strange tactics in regard to parking.

Basically, lets kill parking off, then launch our own and gain a monopoly on the whole racket. Sound like an organised crime ring, LOL.

[Broker]

Sample

Very basic and no option for real templates, links, email, domain is for sale etc.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by advaita

Thanks for that Spade - strangely enough i kind of like the 'boring' page, it looks kind of official. On another tack, why do people look for 'eagle talon' does it have a hidden meaning I know nothing about ?

Yah, its a discontinued model of car from the 90's.

[Ross]

http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/low...s/12-12-08.htm

There it is guys. Said better than i could have myself...

[From]

When will they take applications ?and from which link?

[Compassion]

Originally Posted by Ross

http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/low...s/12-12-08.htm ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541579 There it is guys. Said better than i could have myself...

great points about the value added by some companies


and the "throwback" look of the parking template

[sheprd]

Still not in my account as of today, I'm at bottom of the pile with NetMeg

[netmeg]

Having seen and read and talked to a number of people on this (and probably having a bit more inside knowledge than some people here) what I think will happen is that serious domainers may try AFD for a week or so with a handful of domains, and will go back to their regularly scheduled parking company because the payouts won't be anywhere near what they were getting before. That parking companies have features that Google isn't offering.

The people who will stay in AFD are the people who, for example, are in GoDaddy parking now, or who have three or four domains they aren't using, or who, for one reason or another, can't get accepted by a parking company.

The parking companies aren't going anywhere, because the big portfolios aren't going to Google; not with the stricter TOS, lack of landers, regular (likely non paying) search results, etc.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541579

And things after that will pretty much stay the same.

The only thing that will make a noticeable difference is if Google starts to let parked domains back in the SERPS again. I don't think they're ready to go that far just yet.

[Mark]

I think many will just wait to see some reports after a month or two from others ... If this revenue share is the same as regular Adsense ads - Why bother ?

On the other hand Google has de-indexed tons of Parked domains in the past , But this is "their" project - Who knows what they will do with them. Obviously they make more money if the domains are listed within their own engine. Now THAT would be a kick in the face ( < not my original word there ) for the parking companies.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by netmeg

Having seen and read and talked to a number of people on this (and probably having a bit more inside knowledge than some people here) what I think will happen is that serious domainers may try AFD for a week or so with a handful of domains, and will go back to their regularly scheduled parking company because the payouts won't be anywhere near what they were getting before. That parking companies have features that Google isn't offering. The people who will stay in AFD are the people who, for example, are in GoDaddy parking now, or who have three or four domains they aren't using, or who, for one reason or another, can't get accepted by a parking company. The parking companies aren't going anywhere, because the big portfolios aren't going to Google; not with the stricter TOS, lack of landers, regular (likely non paying) search results, etc. And things after that will pretty much stay the same. The only thing that will make a noticeable difference is if Google starts to let parked domains back in the SERPS again. I don't think they're ready to go that far just yet.

When google thinks, they think BIG. IMO, parking will become less an less as Google pleases. This in return will force people in to different revenue streams. In return you get a BETTER internet.

Yes big players might go back to their parking companies, for now. The thing that makes the companies weak is that they are at googles mercy. Without google's feed they have one other option, Yahoo. What if they follow suit?

Why let this be news to you? Shouldn't we all be developing our names anyways? Isn't that really the purpose of registering a domain name?

[netmeg]

Not solely. I consider mine an investment. I couldn't develop 1500 domains even if I wanted to.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by netmeg

Not solely. I consider mine an investment. I couldn't develop 1500 domains even if I wanted to.

Thats the thing, you dont have to. Put the time and effort you would in to monetizing those domains at parking companies and develop 1(ONE). The return could prolly out perform all of those parked domains together. As i have said in other threads and to many many domainers, "20 well developed content rich websites will out perform 1000+(prolly WAY more) parked/mini-sites any day!"
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541579

Lets get real about the internet....

[netmeg]

Um. Yes, well, thanks, but I do kind of know that already. I have (roughly) 75 or 80 developed sites now.

By the way - might as well put it here - AdSense is slowly being integrated into Google Analytics, so if you *want* AdSense information in your Analytics, you will be able to link your accounts (you don't have to, it's up to you if the extra information is worth the tradeoff) Some accounts have already been integrated, but it's a slow rollout - if you want to get on the list for early adoption, go here and sign up:

http://zi.ma/adsense

[Ross]

Originally Posted by l2ride55

Totally disagree A domain name is a valuable piece of Internet real estate. There's only one each. The Internet is founded on URL's/domain names, not Google "search". It is not founded on what your property "looks" like, it is all properties combined. Some properties may have beautiful homes on them; some have 3 refrigerators and a couple dead bodies in an open field. Doesn't matter, they are all considered part of the "big picture". It is not Google's task (nor should it be) to police the Internet and "Make it a Better Internet". Their task simply is to make their product better... not mine.

All of those whypark sites and mini-sites almost soely depend on google. What if google drops them...? On top of that it is google's mission to police the internet, if they don't their product sucks, look at cuil.com LOL! QUALITY is what people want, and it is google's mission to GIVE them that. They are putting the squeeze on parking companies so they can own that share they give to them. Doing that creates little to no competion, in return they own the internet pretty much. Now if google does do this i am almost certain Yahoo will follow.

Originally Posted by l2ride55

Their business of how/what/where they scrape those "properties" for and how they decipher their scraped information is up to them. But don't take a competitive advantage and manipulate it to break up a free market and create a monopoly, lying and cheating your way through. That's my point here. Don't go say how bad it is and how they need to clean up of all these bad cybersquaters and parking companies, slap them - then turn around and take it over after you ran everyone out. There is such a glaring & obvious undertone and motive here, if you can't see it Bud, I can't help ya'. It's not about "developing" a domain.

It is about development. If you have quality developed sites you have ZERO to worry about. Google rewards original quality content. If you can not see that they have you in the right place for this to work.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541579

Originally Posted by l2ride55

Wonder where you ever thought the idea that you had to "develop" your domain names to make the Internet a better place? They got to ya' son. Hate to say it.

I got the idea because i make more money with well developed sites than i ever have parking. I am not talking mini-sites or scraped content sites. I am talking about full on development. Yes developing your names does make the Internet a better place because people go on the internet to find quality developed content. Why do you think people click on your parked pages links for? TO FIND CONTENT!!!!!

Originally Posted by l2ride55

Many of us are here for different reasons. A domain isn't too much different than a baseball card - you may buy somebody's rookie card today but it may take 10 years to gain any value (if at all). In that industry there is no "parking" option, but there also isn't a reoccurring ownership fee either. It’s no different than laying a bet in the stock market or on real estate either.

Yes but with domains you can create that revenue. Thats why i do not get why half the people on these boards parks their domains and hopes they get good click. If you spend the time and develop them you can make sure you sell direct ads for WAY more than if you get 1 or 2 clicks a month.

Originally Posted by l2ride55

"Parking" is a place where millions of domains can go while visionaries take a chance at a sale, or maybe development, or maybe "sit and wait" for their property to gain value. It is not "all" about developing a website. You think they're trying to "Making a better Internet"? If that were the mission, I can think of an endless list of problems and they all fall way ahead of "parked site and domainer cleanup in isle 4". LOL.

Who owns most good domain names on the internet? DOMAINERS! What happens when google drops these parked domains and limits the revenue? They have to either sell them or develop something in to a profitable revenue stream. Whats that called? Development!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541579

It will take care of itself, google will have to little to no work for this to happen.

Originally Posted by l2ride55

"Follow the Money"

LOL, following the money only leads you in to black holes. Create your own money!

[Ross]

Originally Posted by l2ride55

Too far gone.... L2

Nothing else to say? of padding your post count...

[umxca]

Anybody know how this will effect the pageranks? Or will they be ranked at all? And I am reffering to google pageranks....thx

[FreshAvails.com]

Originally Posted by netmeg

Can you even do that if your domains are at Fabulous? I've never found any CNAME or A record options there.

Has this been answered? Has anyone been able to set up and Fabulous names with AFD (adsense for domains)?

[npcomplete]

Originally Posted by MrSpartan

Originally Posted by netmeg Can you even do that if your domains are at Fabulous? I've never found any CNAME or A record options there. Has this been answered? Has anyone been able to set up and Fabulous names with AFD (adsense for domains)?

I have searched in the past at Fab and not been able to. I suppose if I really wanted to I would ask the Fab rep, they have fantastic support. The only problem would be asking Fab to transfer their DNS to a competitor... where that competitor is the provider of their primary product they are selling to the end-user - which is you, the domain holder. I run my own DNS on some of my domains to keep costs down, and of course play around, and either use the host DNS or registrar DNS for others. In the DNS records you get to see all kinds of interesting things... that can help you in marketing. Not that anybody would ever do something like that.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541579

Sorry though. Other than asking Fab support (which is fabulous) by email, I haven't been able to find anything in their config area. You could PM Mike Fabulous here, in this thread too:

http://www.namepros.com/413218-fabul...ml#post3209887

[umxca]

thx..Maybe I should re-phrase my question..

Will google rank domains that are parked at AFD?

[netmeg]

I don't expect anyone knows that yet, but I tend to doubt it.

[umxca]

Originally Posted by netmeg

I don't expect anyone knows that yet, but I tend to doubt it.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541579
thx netmeg I guess my question is kind of out there as google would be ranking their own content..lol

oh well one more reason for your sig

[Domainate.com]

I put up an obligatory post on this at Doma.in. I'm not quite sure what to make of it yet - certainly nice to see Google almost showing support for the domain industry more or less after all these years of showing distaste for us, but it remains to be seen what potentially sinister motives may be behind this, like possibly inevitably wiping out the domain parking industry as a whole. The thing to remember I guess is that the average non-domainer would cheer at seeing no more parking pages, and given how much traffic Google commands, sooner or later I think that's probably the position they'll ultimately veer to.