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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Texas, United States
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Beware: donot waste a penny in appraisal.... The scammer is a NP member and looks like he have scammed almost everyone......
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| Account Closed Join Date: Feb 2009
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![]() | I just received last night an email from eliteinvestment.net as well. Here is the reply from "Mr. Murphy" after I responded to his inquery about one of my domain names:
THIS IS A 100% DOMAIN NAME APPRAISAL SCAM ATTEMPT ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=532200 BTW: he referred to a name I registered just last week at GoDaddy.com . | ||||
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 372
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Got one of these also, this time from an Andrew Murphy. After googling the senders domain name and finding this thread, I sent a response. Andrew, Thank you for your interest. Feel free to make an initial offer at Sedo.com using the make offer function. Given the obvious value of this domain, your offer will be considered based on my evaluation of the domains value and the sincerity of your initial bid. If the offer falls significantly below my estimation of value then there will be no further negotiations. Although I am open and welcome to further refinement of the proposal with those who do truly understand the innate value of this domain, I do not have time to negotiate with insincere bidders. If you are having difficulty determining a reasonable opening bid, I suggest that you use an automated appraisal tool or consult with an independent appraisal firm of your selection and take into considerations the applications and the keyword, unique market value and the developing interest in the extension itself. All burden for accurate appraisals for opening offers rests with the buyer, as I am confident in my estimation of both the domains market value and appraisal sources. A fair opening offer is best for everyone involved, so due diligence on your behalf is recommended. Should I find your initial offer at sedo.com to be sincere and legitimate then we can come to a meeting of interests in the final sale price. Should I find your offer to be substantially reasonable and fair then I will respond with a likewise reasonable counter-offer in the hopes that we will quickly come to terms. If I am of the opinion that your initial offer is completely fair then I may accept your offer outright. If it is clear that your offer is considerably below market value I will either decline or simply send xxxxx.tv to auction. At this time, I am not considering offers outside the sedo marketplace, as I find that there are significant security benefits for all parties involved by using a reputable brokerage system, and do not feel that it is right to attempt to circumvent the agreements I have made with sedo. I trust that you will honor the integrity of the system and do your best in facilitating a successful transaction for all involved parties. With this in mind, feel free to submit your offer (link) Thank you Additional Information: This domain is part of the rapidly rising dot tv extension, the benefits and future value of which I am sure you are aware of. xxxxx.tv has unique potential for a discerning investor. Unlike many of the domains in the dot tv arena, this domain is unencumbered by excessive renewal fees, and is in fact available at standard renewal fees. This is a tremendous advantage for anyone interested in a long term ownership ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=532200 plan. ------------------ Thought it might be fun to play around with a bit if I get a response... |
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| First Time Poster! Join Date: Feb 2009
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![]() | I just got an email from these people again too, they seem to have been running the same scam for quite some time now. By the way DOMAINS BY PROXY is not a company owned by the scammer/s, It is the name & address of the company GODADDY uses for their Private Whois service. |
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| First Time Poster! Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1
![]() | murphy@eliteinvestment.net SCAM Hi Everyone, I also just received a email from these scam artists. Thanks to everyone for posting their experience so I could verify it was a scam. murphy@eliteinvestment.net is another email is use for the eliteinvestment.net scam See below: Hello, I'm interested in your domain in the subject line. Investing in domains is a profitable business. We are in real estate ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=532200 business. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Andrew Murphy Vice President Elite Investment Group ================================================== ====== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ====== |
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| Business Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: DomainSales.TV
Posts: 3,589
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Thanx for Posting this thread!!! This (murphy@investment.net) is DEFINITELY a NP member... I just recently acquired a domain, and I received these emails. Yes I was a little suspicious after the 2nd reply. Then I came here to search for this knucklehead (Andrew Murphy) or his silly EliteInvestment.net, and that brings me to THIS thread. So, just be aware NP'ers... This 2nd email is from TODAY!!! He is still up to no good! Oh by the way, to the O.P. Rep Added!!! Thank You! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I'm interested in your domain in the subject line. Investing in domains is a profitable business. We are in real estate business. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=532200 Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Andrew Murphy Vice President Elite Investment Group -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I really like this domain, and wanted to develop it as a category specific site... but I am curious as to your offer? Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry for delay with answer. Our family was celebrating newborn child of my sister. Can you accept 5,000 USD? Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: http://domainblog.007sites.com/587412.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congrats on your sisters newborn baby. I have my own methods for appraisals, and I do believe $5000.00 is a fair and acceptable offer for such a category specific domain with a very lucrative future. If you are serious, and time is of the essence, I will try to accomodate, considering I have alot of various plans this weekend. My preferred method of payment is PayPal. Thank You. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOL, Yes, I admit I was excited for a minute... Silly Me!!! Watch out for this idiot! Murphy@EliteInvestment.net |
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| New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA
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![]() | Just got this Hi, I just got this and i decide to Google his domain and Bingo!!! I'm here too. Email I got:
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| Business Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: DomainSales.TV
Posts: 3,589
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | OMG, This NUT does not give up!!! I just Posted in this thread, a couple of hours ago about his emails One introducing himself to me. Then My Response. Then His response, Then my response. That is a total of 4 emails back n forth. Well, I just got his 3rd email to me... Thank you for congratulations! It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers. Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks. Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated vlauations. So manual valuation is a "must" too. I read the following information about appraisals at: http://domainblog.007sites.com/587412.htm Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you. ------------------------------------------------------------ ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=532200 You offered $5000... Now you are needing me to pay for an appraisal, huh? LOL. I'll tell you what. You can have the domain for $4500, and you can keep the $500 for your next scam, ok? ------------------------------------------------------------ UnFriggenBelievable!!!
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| | THREAD STARTER #36 (permalink) |
| NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 77
![]() ![]() | I have mainly seen these type of emails go to New Registrations. They simply get a list of domain names that were newly registered and target these people. I have also seen this scam be sent to people who newly list domain names on Sedo. The Signature on the email is also a give away and would look similar to something like this: George Sterling President PHR LLC Or Regards, Michael E Myers Vice President OB Securities LLC The latest one to be going around is from TheOnlineBrokerage.com . Some other domains used are: EasyNameSale.com, EliteInvestment.net, ToughGuy.net |
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: www.vrytek.com
Posts: 924
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | They sure have a lot of Vice Presidents at EliteInvestments ![]() I got one too and have asked for $500,000,000 Hello, We are interested in your domain name for sale. Investing in domains is a profitable business. We are in real estate business. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Steven Campanella Vice President Elite Investment Group |
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sunny Scotland
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | LOL just got my email also.
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| NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Australia
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![]() | There at it again, I received two emails from wargacki@theonlinebrokerage.com below: Hello, Are you still interested in sale of your domain? What is your price? We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and web sites too. If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Alex Wargacki CEO ONB Real Estate LLC ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=532200 ================================================== ====== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ====== second email: My sister gave birth to a child. Apologies for delay with response. We celebrated! Can you accept 10,000 USD? Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: Domain Talk If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. I just cant understand how they can be operating for so long, hopefully soon they will be stopped! Thanks Mat
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| New Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Land of the Rings (NZ)
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![]() | Bombard the FBI with IC3 complaints and get these crooks shut down and put away - i got suckered by these thieves, damn i could kick myself. it had been a long week at work and they just happened to catch me with my guard down. they operate through Plimus.com - i didn't lose a lot but fraud is fraud. my credit card company and the FBI are going after these crooks. |
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