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| NamePros Regular | In a press released Feb 21, 2008 http://www.dotasia.org/pressreleases...8-02-21_EN.pdf The total applications as of 2/21/2008 is 298,861 names. In the final press release concerning names applied before landrush (before March) http://www.dotasia.org/pressreleases...8-04-14_EN.pdf All these names were verified according to Dot Asia and - "The verification for all Sunrise applications received has been completed. The final success rate for all Sunrise applications is over 95%" I seriously think you need to verify your data with the dot Asia registrar before continuing posting stats about Dot Asia which contradicts the dot Asia registry information. The information you have on your site is misleading. About 300,000 names were applied before march 2008 and all of them have been verified and 95% were successful according to dot Asia. Which means as of March 2008 before the landrush started it has about 250,000 names already. Please consider verifying your data against the press release of Dot Asia. This is not a small contradiction. "The total applications as of 2/21/2008 is 298,861 names" "The verification for all Sunrise applications received has been completed. The final success rate for all Sunrise applications is over 95%"
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| NamePros Regular | The Dot Asia people said that ALL the 298,000 registrations have been verified. "The final success rate for all Sunrise applications is over 95%"" 298,000 were the applications during the sunrise periods AND over 95% were successful applications. I understand 298,000 applications does not mean 298,000 names. BUT when the registry said that over 95% of the applications were successful it does mean that they become domains. Had they say that 5% of the application were successful it would mean that your figure of 17,000 is correct. However the success rate of the applications is over 95%. Your stats are incorrect.
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These figures are from Dot Asia's monthly registry operator reports and my stats are from the zone files checked on the first day of each month. Registry Report - Zone File - Difference 01/02/08-29/02/2008: 19159 - 01/March/2008: 17865 - 1294 01/03/08-31/03/2008: 126280 - 01/April/2008: 120746 - 5534 01/04/08-30/04/2008: 159682 - 01/May/2008: 156201 - 3481 01/05/08-31/05/2008: 177707 - 01/June/2008: 174212 - 3495 01/06/08-30/06/2008: 193882 - 01/July/2008: 189636 - 4246 The difference is due to domains being registered but not being included in the zone file. Regards...jmcc
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| NamePros Regular | As of 2/21/2008 298,000+ applications for all sunrise periods (from 2007-Feb, 2008) As of 3/13/2008 473,000+ applications during land rush periods http://www.dotasia.org/pressreleases...8-03-13_EN.pdf Notice land rush and sunrise periods are separate periods and total application counts as of 3/15/2008 would be around 800,000+ applications. 298,000 applications with a success rate of 95%, I manually counted the trademark/business/sunrise auctions for the month of jan, feb, and march. and guessed what? only 360+ names were in auction. What does this mean? 298,000 with 95% being successful, minus the 360 names in auctions let's say each name received 100 applications it would count as 36,000 applications away from the 298,000 pool. If each of these 360 names in auction received 250 applications (erroneous) it would mean that there are about 100,000 applications total for these auction names. However we know that's not the case. Even with 400 applications per name it would indicate that there's about 144,000 applications minus the 5% failure (30,000+), what's left are domain names of over 125,000+ names. 298,000 applications with 95+% success and only 360 names in auction.
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http://www.dotasia.org/pressreleases...4-22-LC_EN.pdf Or to use Dot Asia's own figure 45697 domains were being auctioned. This is the link for the auction data: http://www.dotasia.org/about/auctions.html The closed auctions PDF is particularly interesting: http://www.dotasia.org/about/auction...Oct10_full.pdf It has a lot more than 360 domains listed - approximately 33800 .asia domains. It seems that Dot Asia also disagrees with you. As for those registry report figures I quoted in that earlier post, do you also disagree with those? Are those stats, in your mind, incorrect too? I don't have the luxury of making up numbers from press releases. I have to deal with reality. That reality is the statistics from Dot Asia and the zone file counts. Regards...jmcc
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| NamePros Regular | JMCC you are confusing the "sunrise" with the "landrush". Landrush did not start auction in Jan, Feb or March. In fact landrush applications started in APRIL at best. Sunrise applications does not have 30,000 or 40,000 names in auction. Its the landrush. if it did, then it still would have contradicted your stats for the month of march 2008.
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Normally the term Landrush applies to the go-live/first come, first served period when registrations are opened to all. Dot Asia was using it to describe part of its Sunrise process. My figures for March, the 01/March/2008 zone file count would approximate the Dot Asia registry figure for the 01/February/2008 - 29/February/2008. Domain applications do not immediately turn into domain registrations. Regards...jmcc
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| NamePros Regular | http://forms.icann.org/idashboard/public/ The registry reports in graphical form show the evolution of the various TLDs including .asia. The Registry Status buttons are for the trend graphs. Regards...jmcc
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| MediaWizard™ Team Leader | Ooh, .asia not doing as well as you hoped tech4? Instead of trying to 'convince' jmcc, or the rest of us, why not ask the registry for access to the zone file, or even better... ask for the total number of registrations, specially since they claim to be a non-profit. I invited Edmon Chung to NamePros for a discussion on .asia based on his comment on my blog, he has not till date
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| NamePros Regular | MWZD, From the stats that JMCC gave 240,000 ofcourse its not doing well as I hoped. Still Icann figures for June 8, 2008 was at 193,000+ JMCC figures were 174,000 in July it was only 189,000. So how do you invite Edmun Chung to namepros? Did you invite him already or did you just say that. --------------------------------
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| MediaWizard™ Team Leader | http://www.mwzd.com/2008/04/17/the-dotasia-debacle/ See the second last comment and reply. That reply was also sent by email to the gentleman.
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| NamePros Regular | MWZD, I am not sure if someone named Edmun or Edmun Chung could be the CEO of Dot Asia. It could be just a random person, because if it is Edmun who has the gut to reply to your post in public could certainly do the same at namepros. I dont thinks that him. ------------------------------------------------- Regarding the stats, As of June 8, it was 193,000 and JMCC's stats are behind. So in regard to his update of 240,000 as of nov. it might also be behind by 20,000-50,000 or more. But still at 240,000 min, its not doing that bad. Even with all the promotions at Godaddy, Sedo, DNjournal and the big fish dot me still haven't gotten to 200,000. Its actually is remarkable that something were'nt heavily advertised did better than something which was advertised across the board.
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| NamePros Regular | Would be great to have him contribute to the boards. He's obviously a very smart guy. I can't believe how young he looks though!! - http://dotasia.org/about/bios/bio_edmon_chung.html Anyway I just sold my second .asia for more than $2,500 (see DNJournal later today/tomorrow) so it's not all bad, tech4. One thing I was thinking to stimulate end user sales & get people actually using the extension, the dotasia registry should come up with an 'info pack' specifically for investors espousing the benefits of the extension. Domainers could then use this information as part of a sales proposal when trying to flog their domains. Anyway sorry for contributing to off-topic discussion. Keep those stats coming in jmcc!
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| NamePros Regular | Quote:
Registry Report - Zone File - Difference 01/02/08-29/02/2008: 19159 - 01/March/2008: 17865 - 1294 01/03/08-31/03/2008: 126280 - 01/April/2008: 120746 - 5534 01/04/08-30/04/2008: 159682 - 01/May/2008: 156201 - 3481 01/05/08-31/05/2008: 177707 - 01/June/2008: 174212 - 3495 01/06/08-30/06/2008: 193882 - 01/July/2008: 189636 - 4246 If the ICANN figures are dated the 8th of the succeeding month (8/March/2008 for the 01/February/2008-29/February period) then the zone file count discrepancy becomes far more understandable. And 232869 is not 240000. That would be adding over a month's extra growth to the .asia count at the current rate of growth. As for it being behind by 20000-50000, that is more wishful thinking. If they exist then Dot Asia will include them in its registry reports. Regards...jmcc
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![]() There are some big sales in .asia but we'll actually know the status of extension when the landrush term of two years is over. Thats when we'll know how many domains are developed, how many drop and what is the future of the tld... see .mobi for a case study ![]() Quote:
Or prefer to ignore facts in favour of hype if you do read. How many people do you know who would have this email - edmon at registry dot asia
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| NamePros Member | any chance of getting some .me stats included in the graph now that it's been out for awhile? BFM
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| NamePros Regular | Added .il (Israel), .ir (Iran), .pl (Poland) ccTLD statistics to the gTLD and ccTLD statistics page: http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2009.php The surprising stat is that .cn is from a peak of 14 million .cn domains. Regards...jmcc
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| Senior Member | Jmcc love your stats. poor tech4, reeling from his "investment". Not suprising IMO, maybe lots of .CN tasted at 1 yuan a piece? I tasted my only .asia, which was promptly dropped after a whopping 5 hits. The traffic market for .asia is non existent ![]() Sam
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| NamePros Regular | Quote:
The drop was a bit surprising but .cn would have a very large number of speculative registrations. The price makes tasting very cheap too. The .asia hasn't been going too well but it is now in its Junk Dump phase and it hasn't had the kind of sustained new registration volume that .mobi had during its Junk Dump phase. The figures for .asia over the last few days are: 25/April/2009: 240018 26/April/2009: 239529 27/April/2009: 239316 28/April/2009: 238898 29/April/2009: 238808 The real drops haven't kicked in yet and it is only in late May or early June that the dropped domains will start disappearing from the zone file in high volumes. The .asia sTLD is really a long bet as it will take at least five years for it to become an established regional TLD. Quote:
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