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On the positive side, I've noticed some registrars reducing fees to 14.95 in specials most likely to combat with encirca's pricing. But not all of them as you stated. I was hoping that enom would make a bigger dent.

I'm definetly concerned over ranking in the search engines. I've made an effort to develop my .pros and most of them have a site attached. However, ranking now in bing and yahoo is plain tough. Google at least lists them. Maybe this is also a reflection of who has the most market share therefore .com's rule the market.
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Still believe .pro is an opportunity as i've found many sites developed and seems to be popular extension also in foreign countries. I've seen good sites developed from canada, france, russia and spain. So even though the extension is growing more slowly than others I would hope that we are more stable in our slow climb in registrations and actual web development. I search for sites regularly and have found alot more .pros developed out there. Here are a few I found that are not my sites, but rather by others I thought were nice.

navona.pro
image3d.pro
castingcalls.pro
acne.pro
handheld.pro

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that was nice. click here

John Baron

i own AirlineTickets.pro , what do you guys say?

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Popular keywords but would have to be developed. A lot of competition on bing, they own expedia right?

John Baron

who? you mean the .com version ?

Its the mother of all competitions , specially since this is a real web product that being purchase more and more only online .

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mr-x

Microsoft owns expedia, and when you search for tickets they show a form at the top. Google has done the thing for mortgage leads.

I didn't seen any other extensions developed so there is an opportunity. Did you just buy it?

webdomain

Thats a bit over my head., but could this be hurting .pro search engine ranking?

Ben42

What is wrong? Can you explain your findings please?

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I think we need more of a less technical answer to better understand. It sounds like an error is being received from google and .pro extension servers. Please explain the relevance further in relation to seo for the .pro extension.

Also, we should just send this question to registry.pro and have them answer it.

steveteva

I've got some dot pro sold in the past and I've push to new user account, my question is why I still received email notification when domain will expire? Also, I check the whois and all were still with my infos. Something weird is that it's not listed in my encirca account of course as it have been push and sold to someone else.

So what should I do in future, what steps to push correctly to someone else without having these whois error and email notification, also as the current owner of my .pro can see domains in their encirca account, I assume that he can update infos and renew?

B.Rubble

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Ditto

Jawed

Some registrars require the new owner to change the contact details manually. I am not sure if this is the case with your registrar but it's worth checking it.

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Kuli

For me, gives normal results.
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Did you try it with different second level domains?

WordWalker

Reg'd this dotPRO:

Maui

Not a financial, but not too shabby.

webdomain

Wow, good buy. My cotai.pro is showing up on page 19 on google under cotai. Good to see a little rise in some google results.

steveteva

Great buy maybe.
I used to have Oahu, fully developped directory site with hundred thousands of entries, marketing, seo and advertising all over the net and in newspaper, classified ads, web radio ads... spend $$$$ but finally after a year I didn't even got 100 of visitors per day. So I sold my name for nuts and think that know it's not even up running.
To be honest and not hurt anyone here, .pro sucks!

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B.Rubble

Wouldn't you say that one year is a fairly short period of time in the early development and growth of a large site. Considering it was a Pro, could be that it needed another year.

You also have to consider the stats of Oahu vs Maui. There's a significant difference.

Nothing personal. Just thinking. I'm no expert.

Hope you are well Steveteva.

WordWalker

I hear what you're saying, and I could NOT disagree more. I believe .PRO is, perhaps, one of the best, most intuitive TLDs available. Decades before the Internet was even imagined, the word "PRO" was used in business names and advertising to both brand & describe.

In my opinion, it's a 100% failure of marketing. My observations on the importance of marketing domains to end users can be found HERE.

I continue to believe that when an investor with deep pockets takes an interest in .PRO, everything could turn around within a very short time frame. If .PRO wasn't an approved extension already, I have no doubt that it would be at the top of the list of the new "boutique" TLDs that would be applied for in the next several years.

It's not as if the term, "PRO" has somehow fallen out of favor in the lexicon of 21st century English. We're not talking about .DANDY! At the top of all pyramids - whether sports, business, music, film, etc., the word, "PRO" towers above the rest.

Pro Football

Pro Baseball

Pro Basketball

Golf Pro


When we refer a third party to a friend or associate, what do we say to make clear our personal endorsement of the third party's credentials?
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.... a real Pro.

.... trusted Pro.

.... serious Pro.

.... a qualified Pro.

.... a no nonsense Pro.

Meet our resident Pro.

Absent the Internet, what three letter combination packs such a powerful punch - in and of itself?

Not "net"

Not "org"

Not "info"

Not "biz"

And with all due respect, certainly not "com"!

Please understand that I am not saying the extension .PRO is more valuable than the extension .COM because, clearly, it is not. But that is purely a function of who was first out of the gate, frequency of use, continued exposure and force of habit. Not because .COM was the better choice of TLD. Marketing companies often try to make a race horse out of horse manure, and sometimes they even succeed. Think about what smart, creative, compelling marketing could do when you not only start with a race horse, but it just happens to be the Triple Crown champion.

That is the intrinsic potential of .PRO!

Why a well healed investor has not yet identified the opportunity is a question that I cannot answer. Inefficient markets create opportunities, and .PRO is one of those opportunities in a big way.

Jawed

……and the answer is market forces, simple rules of demand and supply. Investors invest in such commodities which are high in demand, not based on personal tastes.

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That's why strange and bizarre stuff that most of us could do without is never sold through Informercials, right? Apparently I was mistaken in my belief that marketing and advertising often create demand where none existed before.

Jawed, riddle me this:

Before the Snuggie starting showing up on television around the clock, what exactly was the demand for a blanket with huge, bloomer size sleeves? And even though an oversized bathrobe worn backwards does virtually the same thing, why are people paying more for a Snuggie when they could be shopping for a deeply discounted, XXL bathrobe at Ross or Marshalls? It wouldn't have anything to do with the demand created by marketing, would it?

If, as you say, "Investors invest in such commodities which are high in demand...", who, then, was investing in the Snuggie?
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And what exactly was the demand for This. True, marketing was simply by word of mouth at the beginning, but ultimately retailers jumped in, and due to the unique character of this product, free PR PR was soon everywhere!

Some people might call that marketing.

Thank you for attempting to educate me before taking a moment to read This.

webdomain

maui.pro is still a great buy! I was going to jump in there, but you guys have done a much better job. I agree, marketing a site can take a long time...well over a year in most cases which is the simple reason why I wouldn't recommend to any smaller budget company to run out and buy traffic...not to say it doesn't work for some.

go pro!

steveteva

Great posts here. I was a .pro fan and like someone said above . Pro is more desirable than many other Tld but never being professional choices same with .biz
Look I have a domain .pro that fit .pro and if was .com could worth over 10000$ easiely but I tried to sell to business owners in the past and none where interested or want for less than $100
Even the .info recently sold for $500 and doest really fit .Info tld. The .com belongs to a famous company that redirect to his site. So the best choice I have is to keep for ten years and wait for a better day and I m not the only one here.

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So wordwalker what would be a good marketing plan for .pro? got any good ideas on how they could promote the extension at this point? I totally agree that something needs to be done simply to raise awareness of the extension. Most people haven't heard of .pro.

1. If every .pro kicked in 10 bucks could we buy a superbowl ad? hahah

steveteva

Here are some marketing ideas that are also applicable to all other similar domains and have failed but anyway .com will still be king what ever made.
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1- unrestricted to professional only.
In the past it shows that all restricted tld failed .travel as example.

2- Be accepted by domain registration companies and hosting leaders.
Just being for sale on Godaddy, hostgator... and other big names will make .pro popular

3- Commercial ads on TV, Radio, Exibitions, Expos, sponsor sports... not once but all year round.
This is no secret, branding is someting you need to do, look at .tel marketing or .me, .biz, .mobi... failure!!!

The reasons why none have succeeded is simple: For worldwide internet users there is only 1 or 2 tld they trust : .com and of course for people located in their country it's country code cctld (.fr .uk .de .cn .jp....)
Some tld like .tv, .mobi.... have done step 1-2 but couldn't do 3 or start 3 but ROI was not possible because what ever you do .com is king, it's like a local grocery store trying to fight the big supermarket like Kmart, Walmart, Target... you name it.

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